Freidman: don't expect Campbell to be back Leafs inital offer was 2.75 million per year

[Nylanderthal]

I dont largely disagree with any of the Freddy commentary in your post, but that's all really just the details of the couple bad years I acknowledged.

The point was, if TO didn't provide a bad environment and run him out of town (granted this is sportsfan speculation), then perhaps we don't have those bad years. And now we still have a top 5/10 goalie on the team who has been around long enough to help form part of that team identity we're struggling with. Just a thought.

Freddy wasn't getting old, hes still not old for a goalie.

They didn’t run him out, he quit

 

[NJG]

Specifics please not just generalities? How did “buy-in” cost them when they out hit and shot blocked and many other hustle/sacrifice stats were even/leafs favour.
They lost because the bottom of the line up couldn’t give them a goal, and because the goalie gave up a couple he shouldn’t have

Hmmm that's not really true. You can just as easily say "If Vasi actually played good we would of lost that series sooner." Just like you can say "If Campbell didn't let in a couple soft goals we wouldn't of lost."

Vasi didn't really play well and his team still won. Every goalie has let in soft goals (even Vasi) and even goalies considered to be the best of all time and elite goalies. Campbell wasn't the reason we lost game 7. Scoring one goal and having your lowest scoring game in a game 7 lost us the game. I mean Vasi played alright in game 7 but he in no way, shape or form "stole" that game for Tampa.

 

[zeke]

Hmmm that's not really true. You can just as easily say "If Vasi actually played good we would of lost that series sooner." Just like you can say "If Campbell didn't let in a couple soft goals we wouldn't of lost."

Vasi didn't really play well and his team still won. Every goalie has let in soft goals (even Vasi) and even goalies considered to be the best of all time and elite goalies. Campbell wasn't the reason we lost game 7. Scoring one goal and having your lowest scoring game in a game 7 lost us the game. I mean Vasi played alright in game 7 but he in no way, shape or form "stole" that game for Tampa.

Leafs scored twice in game 7.

 

[zeke]

They didn’t run him out, he quit

I thought it was funny that Freddy quit on his new team this year with the same fake knee injury.

And then by fluke a google showed me this......from 8 years ago....

Frederik Andersen's undisclosed lower-body injury was revealed to be an MCL sprain.​

Rotowire
8yr ago

Andersen's undisclosed lower-body injury was revealed to be an MCL sprain.

Analysis:​

Andersen missed the final four games of the Ducks' second-round series loss to the Kings as a result of the injury, but was apparently close to returning before the team was eliminated. With the whole offseason to rest up from the injury, Andersen should be able to work out throughout the summer without limitations, perhaps in preparation for a full-time role with the Ducks during the 2014-15 campaign.

 

[Stamkos4life]

Freidman was on the fan today and it doesn't sound like Jack will be back Freidman said they were very far apart that the Leafs Inital offer was 3 years at around 2.75 million per year.

This report makes me so happy, low ball the shit out of Campbell because if he takes it then he's a backup making backup money

if you piss him off then you can go out and get a real #1 and hopefully a real backup to, because you can't bring him back he's to injury prone and when he did play he sucked, you need to trade him or LTIR him or something but you need to use that money elsewhere.

but Back to Campbell it doesn't sound like he's back and that's a good thing we need better than a 3.15 GAA and 897 save% come playoff time.

We need a guy that can close when he gets the chance, he had 3 cracks it against Montreal and 2 against Tampa and couldn't get it done.

I said it before I will say it again we need John Gibson you put John Gibson on this team and we aren't having these conversations we are talking about Florida.

Yeah it would be nice to have a goalie post a 0.930+ sv%.

Oh wait, that's exactly what Freddie did during our PO qualifier round vs Columbus and we still lost. Yet Freddie was still the scapegoat lol

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

sounds like there haven't been any talks I'm good with that I think whoever pays jack 5+ million regrets it

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

They didn’t run him out, he quit

He quit on the Canes as well. Rumor has it he was ready enough to play in the last 2 playoff games but wouldn't go into Game 7 and the team is not happy. This is what you get from Fred.

 

[Nylanderthal]

He quit on the Canes as well. Rumor has it he was ready enough to play in the last 2 playoff games but wouldn't go into Game 7 and the team is not happy. This is what you get from Fred.

Same shit happened in Anaheim too, either in 15 or 14. Same undiagnosed “knee injury”

Yeah it would be nice to have a goalie post a 0.930+ sv%.

Oh wait, that's exactly what Freddie did during our PO qualifier round vs Columbus and we still lost. Yet Freddie was still the scapegoat lol

How about take a peek at some of the .070 that got by him, instead of just relying on a spread sheet of numbers…. Especially in game 5.

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

Same shit happened in Anaheim too, either in 15 or 14. Same undiagnosed “knee injury”


How about take a peek at some of the .070 that got by him, instead of just relying on a spread sheet of numbers…. Especially in game 5.

Ya...that .070 that did get by him were horribly timed. That was the big issue with Fred...he could make a 10 bell save and then let a shot in from an impossible angle. Kind of like Mike Smith does now.

 

[Nylanderthal]

Ya...that .070 that did get by him were horribly timed. That was the big issue with Fred...he could make a 10 bell save and then let a shot in from an impossible angle. Kind of like Mike Smith does now.

When a 45’ wrister goes right through the glove, or a worm burner from the goal line nearly from the corner finds it’s way in in elimination games it’s backbreaking for the guys in front.
Not to mention the history of quitting on his team/refusing to play through discomfort in the post season whatever you want to call it is reason enough to cut bait.

 

[socko]

Just about every goalie has inflated stats playing for Carolina's stifling system.
Mrazek
Nedeljkovic
McElhinney

Andersen is just the latest. He's not that good. Still the same sieve.

 

[Nylanderthal]

Yeah it would be nice to have a goalie post a 0.930+ sv%.

Oh wait, that's exactly what Freddie did during our PO qualifier round vs Columbus and we still lost. Yet Freddie was still the scapegoat lol

also, I can’t tell you how hilarious it is that you have dubas in clown make up as your pfp, have created how many navel gazing woe is us threads crying about a boy and his spreadsheet/bedsheets yet here you are using numbers out of context to defend a player you like

 

[McSnypsky]

Can't see how they get rid of Mrazek until he's seen back on ice practicing, then maybe they get takers.
But if we are getting two new goalies, a tandem of Varlomov and Stolarz might not be too bad

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Leafs scored twice in game 7.

No, they didn't. It's a matter of official record, Dubas.

 

[fahad203]

When a 45’ wrister goes right through the glove, or a worm burner from the goal line nearly from the corner finds it’s way in in elimination games it’s backbreaking for the guys in front.
Not to mention the history of quitting on his team/refusing to play through discomfort in the post season whatever you want to call it is reason enough to cut bait.

The short handed goal by Cirelli when the game was still within reach. The first goal of the game in game 7 by Gallagher. These are all back breaking goals. Price and vasi are hard to beat as his, giving them easy leads doesn't help your team

 

[stealth1]

Leafs scored twice in game 7.

The penalty was called well before the puck went in.

 

[zeke]

No, they didn't. It's a matter of official record, Dubas.

They did. We all saw it.

 

[Stamkos4life]

also, I can’t tell you how hilarious it is that you have dubas in clown make up as your pfp, have created how many navel gazing woe is us threads crying about a boy and his spreadsheet/bedsheets yet here you are using numbers out of context to defend a player you like

Apparently counting is not one of your strong suits. I've created exactly one (1) thread.

Also, can you quote me "crying about a boy and his spreadsheets / bedsheets"? I'd love to see you try because I have no idea what you are even talking about.

The only "hilarious" thing I've seen is you calling people who dislike a proven failure of a gm "knuckle draggers" and "populists" lmao

Still think Tampa is going to make short work of the Rangers? I mean, how can you be wrong so much and yet still act so smug? It's shocking.

 

[rocketman588]

They did. We all saw it.

They didn't we all saw the scoreboard

 

[Stamkos4life]

No, they didn't. It's a matter of official record, Dubas.

Imagine being so deluded you have convinced yourself that the Leafs scored two goals despite that clearly not being the case.

I've seen it all when it comes to dubas excuses. But this is one of the absolute worst. Right up there with "dubas didn't overpay our players, the other gms just under paid theirs". I kid you not.

 

[BTP]

Imagine being so deluded you have convinced yourself that the Leafs scored two goals despite that clearly not being the case.

I've seen it all when it comes to dubas excuses. But this is one of the absolute worst. Right up there with "dubas didn't overpay our players, the other gms just under paid theirs". I kid you not.

They scored twice. The second goal was called back. I don't get how people cant grasp this. Holy christ.

The horn went off, celebrations happened, the scoreboard read 2-2... Then it was taken away. They scored... the goal was disallowed.

 

[stealth1]

They scored twice. The second goal was called back. I don't get how people cant grasp this. Holy christ.

The horn went off, celebrations happened, the scoreboard read 2-2... Then it was taken away. They scored... the goal was disallowed.

You forgot the last part where the Refs didn't call it a goal on the ice and the penalty was called before the goal was scored.

 

[BTP]

You forgot the last part where the Refs didn't call it a goal on the ice and the penalty was called before the goal was scored.

If the puck crosses the line its a goal, period. The goal was taken away. This is a fact.

 

[francis246]

Imagine being so deluded you have convinced yourself that the Leafs scored two goals despite that clearly not being the case.

I've seen it all when it comes to dubas excuses. But this is one of the absolute worst. Right up there with "dubas didn't overpay our players, the other gms just under paid theirs". I kid you not.

Other players intentionally took below market value in other markets to keep their team together. So in theory yes other GMs 100% underpaid their superstars but that isn’t a slight on a GM. To be able to convince your star players to take less than what they are worth in the market place is a thing of beauty. It’s good work by a GM

 

[Stamkos4life]

They scored twice. The second goal was called back. I don't get how people cant grasp this. Holy christ.

The horn went off, celebrations happened, the scoreboard read 2-2... Then it was taken away. They scored... the goal was disallowed.

First of all, the scoreboard read "1-1".

Secondly, the ref had his arm up and blew the whistle before the puck went into the net.

I've never seen fans claim that a puck that went into a net after the whistle had been blown due to a penalty should be counted.

That is basically the definition of delusional.

I mean, do you consider the shots during warm up as goals because "the puck crosses the line"? I hope not. Goals only count if they happen while play is live. That means before the ref blows the whistle signaling that play has stopped.

I can't belive this needs to even be said.