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Freidman: don't expect Campbell to be back Leafs inital offer was 2.75 million per year

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thusk said:
Husso on free agency will win the same kind of money than campbell... so why changing someone everyone love in the locker room for a similar goalie at similar salary ...
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I don’t agree personally.
Husso has 40 games total and this was his first year as a real backup

Campbell has had multiple years of .920 and has been the starter for 2 playoffs.

I think Campbell gets more. But is more injury prone and is older.

If they got paid the same sure. Keep him. But husso comparables are ned and drieger and hill etc.
 
Legion34 said:
I don’t agree personally.
Husso has 40 games total and this was his first year as a real backup

Campbell has had multiple years of .920 and has been the starter for 2 playoffs.

I think Campbell gets more. But is more injury prone and is older.

If they got paid the same sure. Keep him. But husso comparables are ned and drieger and hill etc.
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Driedgerbis at 3.5M, i dont really much more than 4M for campbell with all injuries history...
 
thusk said:
Driedgerbis at 3.5M, i dont really much more than 4M for campbell with all injuries history...
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Yes drieger was at 3.5 on an 81.5 cap. It’s up slightly. I don’t see husso Getting more than 4. If he does. I’m personally out.

Jack had a much longer history of playing in the league. This is his first year as starter. He has had what 5 seasons. An. All star game. Set leaf records and 2 playoff starter series.


He probably can ask for more. All the pros are predicting it starts with a 5. I want no part of that.

IF they are comparable salaries bring back jack.
If husso commands less and we can’t get a known commodity. I take the younger healthier shot. And try to get Comrie. Then you have 2 shots
 
Legion34 said:
Yes drieger was at 3.5 on an 81.5 cap. It’s up slightly. I don’t see husso Getting more than 4. If he does. I’m personally out.

Jack had a much longer history of playing in the league. This is his first year as starter. He has had what 5 seasons. An. All star game. Set leaf records and 2 playoff starter series.


He probably can ask for more. All the pros are predicting it starts with a 5. I want no part of that.

IF they are comparable salaries bring back jack.
If husso commands less and we can’t get a known commodity. I take the younger healthier shot. And try to get Comrie. Then you have 2 shots
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All the pros are predicting it starts with a 5. I want no part of that.

Plus he knows he has leverage because we basically have him and an overpriced oft-injured goalie who looked like a deer in the headlights here
 
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Legion34 said:
Yes drieger was at 3.5 on an 81.5 cap. It’s up slightly. I don’t see husso Getting more than 4. If he does. I’m personally out.

Jack had a much longer history of playing in the league. This is his first year as starter. He has had what 5 seasons. An. All star game. Set leaf records and 2 playoff starter series.


He probably can ask for more. All the pros are predicting it starts with a 5. I want no part of that.

IF they are comparable salaries bring back jack.
If husso commands less and we can’t get a known commodity. I take the younger healthier shot. And try to get Comrie. Then you have 2 shots
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If Jack walks, I'd expect Leafs to overpay for a goalie like they did Mrazek. They can't go into next season without a proven starter or somebody like Husso.
 
Quick Shifts: Why Jack Campbell holds all leverage with Maple Leafs - Sportsnet.ca

1. Jack Campbell turned himself into one of just a dozen 30-win NHL goaltenders this past season.

When goalies of that ilk — regardless how many playoff series they’ve won — become unrestricted free agents in a landscape where there aren’t 32 of those to spread around, they get paid.

Were the Toronto Maple Leafs goaltender to open the doors to all suitors, based on comparables and his free-agent competition, the AAV on his next multi-year contract should begin with a five.

Last summer, when Frederik Andersen walked, GM Kyle Dubas said finding a new goaltending partner for Campbell was top priority.

Asked Tuesday how great an emphasis he’d place on locking up Campbell, Dubas undersold if not undercut. He lumped his starting goalie in with his impending UFA depth defencemen and wingers.

“I think I would put Jack in the same grouping in terms of him, Ilya Mikheyev, Mark Giordano, Ondrej Kase (actually an RFA) and Ilya Lybushkin that are unrestricted free agents. We will sit down as a group here in the coming days and weeks,” Dubas replied.

“(Assistant GM) Brandon Pridham will get to work in speaking to their representatives and get an idea of what the expectations are. We will begin to look at the marketplace and then make our decisions from there.”

In other words, there is no guarantee Campbell returns — historic and emotional binds be damned.

The Dubas-Campbell relationship dates back to their Sault Ste. Marie days. The trade to Toronto gave the 2010 first-rounder his long-awaited opportunity to seize a No. 1 role. He went to an All-Star Game. At the morning skate ahead of Game 7, his adoring Leafs teammates chanted “Soooooup!” in their heartiest baritone when he made impressive saves in practice.

Find the money, and Campbell would certainly instruct his agent, the hard-driving Kurt Overhardt, to re-up.

“Winning here means everything to me,” said Campbell, cleaning out his locker Tuesday. “I love the city of Toronto, I love the fans, the support. My teammates are absolutely incredible, the coaching staff, really everything.

“I absolutely love being a Leaf.”

Sweet.

Would you take a little less than market value to remain one?

“As far as me loving the city and doing everything I can to stay here,” Campbell replied, “that’s up to Kurt and Kyle to discuss.”

There is no shortage of goalie-starved clubs with cap space that could make a pitch for Campbell. Buffalo, Detroit, New Jersey and Chicago, to name a few.

The goalie can say he’s leaving it in his agent’s hands all he wants, but this will be Campbell’s call.
 
If I'm Campbell I'm walking. If I'm anyone close to Campbell I'm pleading with him to walk.
Get as far away from this organization (and, admittedly fanbase) as possible.

If he needs further input, call up just about any ex-Leafs goalie from the past 20 years or so. Toronto is a goalie graveyard. Also, not great for defencemen either, but the ratio is a bit higher for d-man having success here vs. ran out of town.

Go get yourself a respectable, 5-or-so-year deal from a non-Canadian city and enjoy playing in front of really loud crowds without the roller coaster ride of being the hero/villain of the city after every game. He seems like a nice guy, solid goalie. He deserves better than 4-5 more years of this.
 
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If I'm Campbell I'm walking. If I'm anyone close to Campbell I'm pleading with him to walk.
Get as far away from this organization (and, admittedly fanbase) as possible.

If he needs further input, call up just about any ex-Leafs goalie from the past 20 years or so. Toronto is a goalie graveyard. Also, not great for defencemen either, but the ratio is a bit higher for d-man having success here vs. ran out of town.

Go get yourself a respectable, 5-or-so-year deal from a non-Canadian city and enjoy playing in front of really loud crowds without the roller coaster ride of being the hero/villain of the city after every game. He seems like a nice guy, solid goalie. He deserves better than 4-5 more years of this.
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What do you feel like Toronto owes him that he didn't get here?
 
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Campbell wasn't the reason we lost. He outplayed the other goaler. Difference was when they were up a goal they four dropped down to the box and one contested the point. Leafs can't score dirty goals and it showed. Tampa is a better coached team.
 
daveleaf said:
Campbell wasn't the reason we lost. He outplayed the other goaler. Difference was when they were up a goal they four dropped down to the box and one contested the point. Leafs can't score dirty goals and it showed. Tampa is a better coached team.
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He was good but not a difference maker. Love him but not a guy I could see going on a long playoff run and stay healthy/sharp
 
Going by Dubas past decisions with goalies I cannot predict who we get but I will predict it will make more fans unhappy over happy.
 
Apparently the Leafs made the 2.75m offer early in the season and his agent rejected it when he was in the midst of his vezina first half.

Much different situation after his sketchy second half.
 
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According to Freidman Gibson could happen

I would love that I don't put any stock in his numbers, I think the Ducks just suck I think you bring him here and regains his form and with the way this team scores having a guy that can actually give them a save would make them deadly.

they won 54 games with shit goaltending

what would they do with an elite #1?
 
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I'm going to be honest, I don't think Gibson is bad, but I haven't been following him since the Anderson trade, from what I remember the ducks aren't good for awhile, what makes him so desirable?? Seems like people are already amounting as the Savior, are his flaws better than Campbell's?
 
Stephen said:
Campbell gave us adequate Chris Osgood level goaltending in the Tampa series, so I don’t want criticize him too much or be too harsh to a heart and soul goalie performance, but the Leafs are not the 90s Detroit Red Wings.

If we scrounge up some money to spend we need a serious goalie to give the Big 4 a real Plan B game. We likely can’t count on the big guns out scoring our problems in elimination games. Our role players don’t have that killer instinct to lift them up. I like Ville Husso.
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If you're talking 1998 Osgood, OK. If you're talking 2008/2009 Conn Smythe level Osgood, not even close.
 
kevsh said:
If I'm Campbell I'm walking. If I'm anyone close to Campbell I'm pleading with him to walk.
Get as far away from this organization (and, admittedly fanbase) as possible.

If he needs further input, call up just about any ex-Leafs goalie from the past 20 years or so. Toronto is a goalie graveyard. Also, not great for defencemen either, but the ratio is a bit higher for d-man having success here vs. ran out of town.

Go get yourself a respectable, 5-or-so-year deal from a non-Canadian city and enjoy playing in front of really loud crowds without the roller coaster ride of being the hero/villain of the city after every game. He seems like a nice guy, solid goalie. He deserves better than 4-5 more years of this.
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If toronto is a goalie graveyard what do call Philadelphia flyers where goalies go to die
 
Careful what you wish for. Uncertain goaltending has a history of sinking good teams. One thing seems for sure: Mrazek doesn't seem to be the guy. Nor is Kallgren. Maybe Woll will be able to backup whoever is brought in. And at this point I'm talking about good enough goaltending to have a good regular season performance.

This team needs a goalie who steals a critical elimination game when the opposition outplays them. Perhaps in theory the Leafs shouldn't need that but it's obvious that's exactly what the team needs because the star forwards haven't once taken the lead and dominated in critical elimination games. They're 0-9 and by "they" I mean the decamillionaires.
 
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