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GDT: Free agency madness, brought to you by the letter G - PART 2

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Hale The Villain said:
Again, had little to nothing to do with Lou who became the GM when the team was already put together and just added a few secondary pieces to the team, arguably subtracting more than adding considering he dealt Toews away due to poor cap management.

He gets credit for hiring Barry Trotz, who is the biggest reason why the team went on a couple cup runs, but he also gets blame for firing his golden goose.

They got the Avs 2021 and 2022 2nds for Toews, then dealt the Avs 2021 2nd and their own 2022 2nd to dump Ladd, which was actually a higher pick than the Avs 2022 2nd they got, so what exactly is your point?
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Honest to God Hale....it's shocking to me that you're not employed in the NHL at this stage.

Wins and losses matter

Playoff series wins matter

And if you want to get subjective, being voted by your peers as a top dog is relevant too.
 
Hale The Villain said:
Pierre Dorion was voted GM of the year after acquiring Brassard, Condon, Burrows and Stalberg, so don't even talk to me about that laughable award.
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What's actually laughable about being voted by your peers for an award. Seriously, what's laughable about that achievement?

Here's what's laughable... The conviction and tone in your posts as if you know better about every move that should be made

Honestly, if you are so convinced of your superiority when it comes to judging talent and making trades you should stop hanging out with us plebes and put yourself out there for nhl jobs. You'd at least get last word in a look at me kinda way if you managed to convince people in the industry that you can add value and they actually hired you.
 
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Laphroaig said:
If true that's interesting. I'd think that might make a trade more likely. I want Chychrun badly for many reasons including my belief that Zub has no intention of re-signing in Ottawa.
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Why would you think Zub has no intention of re-signing in Ottawa?

He had options coming out of the K. He didn't have to sign here. But he did. Then signed up for two more.

More Russians? Right about now I would think most Russian players are examining ways to stay in North America permanently
 
JD1 said:
What's actually laughable about being voted by your peers for an award. Seriously, what's laughable about that achievement?

Here's what's laughable... The conviction and tone in your posts as if you know better about every move that should be made

Honestly, if you are so convinced of your superiority when it comes to judging talent and making trades you should stop hanging out with us plebes and put yourself out there for nhl jobs. You'd at least get last word in a look at me kinda way if you managed to convince people in the industry that you can add value and they actually hired you.
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You're embarassing yourself.
 
Hale The Villain said:
You're embarassing yourself.
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Na man this time its you. What matters are wins and losses, not a guy with an alias on the internets perspective on which roster moves are best. Meanwhile discounting the ability to hire coachs or address specific team needs before they make back to back conference final runs losing in game 7 to the best team of this era. Lou isnt a 'moron' sorry.
 
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It has been a slog through a painful sell off, and a dreadful 2-3 year dive along the bottom, but holy hell are we finally coming out the other side with a team crafted from the studs with a plan, tons of pretty damn good prospects not on the team yet, a really strong core, now some great off season adds, and we’re still good cap-wise. A high character rep, and a blueprint that looks to be crafted for playoff hockey.

It was long and painful but a proper from the ground rebuild can really set a franchise up for a long period of playoff hockey, with cup potential. I have to salute the team and fans to be honest, as not a lot of teams have been willing to do what our team did, and stick with the team (sometimes kicking and screaming) like we did.

But it’s showing signs of just maybe being worth it, and for potentially the next 10+ years if we can continue to play the hand we have properly.

I do not envy the situation many teams are in around the league, feels like we’re finally one of the good ones.
 
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Silencio said:
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Hmmm.

IF true, that means that offers including Brannstrom and Forementon aren't as strong or desirable from the Yotes perspective.

Has anybody done some research on how many games Chychrun has played as RD? My (feeble) attempts at digging this info up didn't result in much. I'm hoping for a little more than Chychrun has played some games as a RD in Arizona type of thing.
 
bert said:
I dont really think that Chychrun is any better defensively and Weegar plays a physical brand of hockey as well. Weegar had a tough playoff but that is really not indicative of how he usually plays. He isn't proned to those types of gaffs very often. I keep seeing this narrative but its not very accurate. Chychrun has really struggled with defensive zone coverage. He has hardly played RD and cant stay healthy.

While I agree this team really needs a hard stay at home RD that can play in the top 4 similar to Zub really.
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I would agree that's there a lot of the latency (round 2 of this year's playoffs) effect happening when it comes to Weegar. I didn't see that many mistakes in the games I watched over the last couple of years. He seemed to play well with Ekblad who more the offensive catalyst in that pairing. And arguably Chychrun's strong suit and selling point is the offense he generates. He also has a bomb for a shot.

Hopefully Zub signs an extension with us - sooner is better, although yes, there's time. Unless something else happens, I wouldn't want to have the challenge of needing to find two (2) top 4 RDs.
 
Big Muddy said:
I would agree that's there a lot of the latency (round 2 of this year's playoffs) effect happening when it comes to Weegar. I didn't see that many mistakes in the games I watched over the last couple of years. He seemed to play well with Ekblad who more the offensive catalyst in that pairing. And arguably Chychrun's strong suit and selling point is the offense he generates. He also has a bomb for a shot.

Hopefully Zub signs an extension with us - sooner is better, although yes, there's time. Unless something else happens, I wouldn't want to have the challenge of needing to find two (2) top 4 RDs.
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Weegar is a great d man. And we were undoubtedly chasing him. But I would think that chase is over. Not sure if he would resign. Not sure if he even wants to come. Also not sure he’s even available anymore.

We know chycrun is all those things except my first point becuase he’s already signed for 3 years
 
Burrowsaurus said:
Weegar is a great d man. And we were undoubtedly chasing him. But I would think that chase is over. Not sure if he would resign. Not sure if he even wants to come. Also not sure he’s even available anymore.

We know chycrun is all those things except my first point becuase he’s already signed for 3 years
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OK, but I never said Weegar is still available or that we are continuing to chase him. I'm not sure of your point in the last sentence but could be that I don't remember your post.
 
Big Muddy said:
OK, but I never said Weegar is still available or that we are continuing to chase him. I'm not sure of your point in the last sentence but could be that I don't remember your post.
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Just adding to the weegar discussion as he’s still being discussed. And I think any discussions involving him or in vain
 
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As much as we talk about salary and internal caps, was looking at Gallagher's contract just now and was shocked to see he's getting paid 6.5M, 8M, and 9M over the next three season with a totoal of 5 more years (out of total 6) of 6.5M AAV cap hit.

That's as much or more real dollars than Chabot, Norris, and Tkachuk will get over the next 3 years, and 1.5M more AAV than Batherson.

I always felt like we were overpaying but clearly, it's better to overpay for productive years and on the long haul, than go the short contract and pay out for sentimental value once the player is on the tail end of his prime but a fan favourite like Gallagher's situation ended up being (he signed this 6 year extension at 28 years old after 2 50+ point seasons and a 62 point pace COVID shortened season).

Imagine if they'd have signed Gallagher to an 8 year x 4.5M contract instead of the original 6 years x 3.75M, they'd be washing their hands of his contract now as he's declining and becoming injury riddled.

Might mean resigning Batherson after his current 6 year contract might be risky - although hopefully Drake's 6" and 20lbs advantage allows him to age a little more gracefully.
 
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Not sure we should have gotten rid of brown AND white with formenton sitch looming. That’s 3 players that can play on the third line
 
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everytime i read about rumours of Kadri being signed long term in NYI, I get hyped. C'mon Lou, screw over your team with another long term contract on a player approaching the wrong side of 30.
 
Burrowsaurus said:
Not sure we should have gotten rid of brown AND white with formenton sitch looming. That’s 3 players that can play on the third line
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Cause... Brown demanded a trade and White is a 5th line player in this org who made 5.25 x 3? No need to worry, more than their combined $9 million has been repurposed in CAT + CG. Brown + White + Form = CAT + CG + RidG.
 
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Sweatred said:
Cause... Brown demanded a trade and White is a 5th line player in this org who made 5.25 x 3? No need to worry, more than their combined $9 million has been repurposed in CAT + CG. Brown + White + Form = CAT + CG + RidG.
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When did Brown request a trade?
 
playasRus said:
As much as we talk about salary and internal caps, was looking at Gallagher's contract just now and was shocked to see he's getting paid 6.5M, 8M, and 9M over the next three season with a totoal of 5 more years (out of total 6) of 6.5M AAV cap hit.

That's as much or more real dollars than Chabot, Norris, and Tkachuk will get over the next 3 years, and 1.5M more AAV than Batherson.

I always felt like we were overpaying but clearly, it's better to overpay for productive years and on the long haul, than go the short contract and pay out for sentimental value once the player is on the tail end of his prime but a fan favourite like Gallagher's situation ended up being (he signed this 6 year extension at 28 years old after 2 50+ point seasons and a 62 point pace COVID shortened season).

Imagine if they'd have signed Gallagher to an 8 year x 4.5M contract instead of the original 6 years x 3.75M, they'd be washing their hands of his contract now as he's declining and becoming injury riddled.
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The notion of Gallagher (and same with Anderson based of cap hit and salary) being hard to move for the next 3 seasons is hilarious from a Sens fan perspective. I hope the Habs have to overpay to move them and that Slafkovsky is closer to a Yakupov calibre 1OA.
 
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