GDT: Free agency madness, brought to you by the letter G - PART 2

[Wallet Inspector]

Lol, Wikipedia currently says that Dobson plays for the Ottawa Senators…

Based Dorion let us know ahead of time.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

No … not many right D easy to acquire that are better then z at $2.5 and don’t cost assets to acquire.

This is why the criticism for acquiring Hamonic was soooo misplaced by the usual Dorion haters here.

Zaitsev at 2 is a bad defender. Zaitsev at 4.5 is a bad defender.

The criticism behind the acquisition of Hamonic is that he isn’t good. We shall find out if he is. I think we will find out really quickly too

Lol, Wikipedia currently says that Dobson plays for the Ottawa Senators…

Alright which one of you did this

 

[Sensinitis]

Lol, Wikipedia currently says that Dobson plays for the Ottawa Senators…

Dammit I have to change my boxers now…

 

[GoSenatorsGo]

While I’m sure it’s just someone playing a prank. I Can’t help but wonder if someone in the know made the switch regarding Dobsons profile . Perhaps this is one of Lou’s 4 deals that Weekes is talking about.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Anderson is better than Weeger but their D is spectacular.

Andersson has that IT factor that Weegar hasn't shown.

I like Weegar more personally but i can see how someone would like Anderson. I dont think Anderson plays with as much jam and isnt as versatile.

Andersson plays with far more heart and soul. He's easily the better player currently. Interesting to call Andersson not as versatile. He can do it all.

Andersson and Dobson among very few I'd include Greig easily for. Brilliant talents.

No way I offer Greig for Weegar.

We are not getting Dobson, though. He is one of the most untouchable players league wide. He's like how we value Sanderson.. after he pans out.

 

[Korpse]

While I’m sure it’s just someone playing a prank. I Can’t help but wonder if someone in the know made the switch regarding Dobsons profile . Perhaps this is one of Lou’s 4 deals that Weekes is talking about.

Multiple people reporting on Islanders have said Dobson contract is done, just not filed with the league yet. I believe it. Lou likes to announce signings all at once, they had 7 announced all at once earlier in the offseason.

 

[Silencio]

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

I like Weegar more personally but i can see how someone would like Anderson. I dont think Anderson plays with as much jam and isnt as versatile.

Havent seen Weegar play but Anderson is an all around stud.

 

[Sweatred]

Zaitsev at 2 is a bad defender. Zaitsev at 4.5 is a bad defender.

The criticism behind the acquisition of Hamonic is that he isn’t good. We shall find out if he is. I think we will find out really quickly too


Alright which one of you did this

Not really - Thomson and Lassi at $1 are worse than Z at $2.5 . It’s not what we want to hear … but it’s true.

Hopefully it changes soon

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Dobson is very unlikely to be traded, but if he's available I'd honestly offer 1st+Pinto if that's what it takes.

 

[bert]

Andersson has that IT factor that Weegar hasn't shown.



Andersson plays with far more heart and soul. He's easily the better player currently. Interesting to call Andersson not as versatile. He can do it all.

Andersson and Dobson among very few I'd include Greig easily for. Brilliant talents.

No way I offer Greig for Weegar.

We are not getting Dobson, though. He is one of the most untouchable players league wide. He's like how we value Sanderson.. after he pans out.

Simply dont agree if you think Weegar doesnt play hard or with emotion or for his teammates. I dont know how much of him you've watched if thats what you think. To say Anderson is 'easily the better player' just isnt correct. Weegar also does it all they are similar in that they are effective in all aspects of the game. Anderson is a great player too, this isnt discounting him in any way they are close. Weegar is more versatile to me in that he can play either side seamlessly. He lead the NHL in even strength points for d men in the 2021 season. Last year he was plus 40 and didnt play any first PP minutes while scoring 44 points. He also played 27 minutes a game when Ekblad went down switching from LD to RD.

You wouldnt trade Grieg for an extended Weegar?..... But people would give up Grieg + + + for Churchurn? So strange Weegar is a better player right now and is a righty.

 

[Laphroaig]

If true that's interesting. I'd think that might make a trade more likely. I want Chychrun badly for many reasons including my belief that Zub has no intention of re-signing in Ottawa.

 

[BUCKLE UP]

Bro wiki better be right

 

[bert]

If true that's interesting. I'd think that might make a trade more likely. I want Chychrun badly for many reasons including my belief that Zub has no intention of re-signing in Ottawa.

This is just pure speculation? Ive heard the opposite.

 

[DaveMatthew]

Simply dont agree if you think Weegar doesnt play hard or with emotion or for his teammates. I dont know how much of him you've watched if thats what you think. To say Anderson is 'easily the better player' just isnt correct. Weegar also does it all they are similar in that they are effective in all aspects of the game. Anderson is a great player too, this isnt discounting him in any way they are close. Weegar is more versatile to me in that he can play either side seamlessly. He lead the NHL in even strength points for d men in the 2021 season. Last year he was plus 40 and didnt play any first PP minutes while scoring 44 points. He also played 27 minutes a game when Ekblad went down switching from LD to RD.

You wouldnt trade Grieg for an extended Weegar?..... But people would give up Grieg + + + for Churchurn? So strange Weegar is a better player right now and is a righty.

Weegar certainly plays hard and with emotion, and he's fantastic at getting the puck up the ice, but he's not a stalwart defensively and is prone to making some gaffes. Regardless, he's a legitimate top 4 (potentially top 2) defenseman, plays a side where there's significant scarcity, so he's in line for $6.5-7.5M on his next contract.

The reason Chychrun is seen as more valuable amongst this fanbase is that he brings a more defensive, physical game, is 4 years younger, and will be $2-3M cheaper per season for the next 3 years.

I really like Weegar and would have been happy to bring him here. But I'd much prefer Chychrun.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

If true that's interesting. I'd think that might make a trade more likely. I want Chychrun badly for many reasons including my belief that Zub has no intention of re-signing in Ottawa.

Based on ?

 

[bert]

Weegar certainly plays hard and with emotion, and he's fantastic at getting the puck up the ice, but he's not a stalwart defensively and is prone to making some gaffes. Regardless, he's a legitimate top 4 (potentially top 2) defenseman, plays a side where there's significant scarcity, so he's in line for $6.5-7.5M on his next contract.

The reason Chychrun is seen as more valuable amongst this fanbase is that he brings a more defensive, physical game, is 4 years younger, and will be $2-3M cheaper per season for the next 3 years.

I really like Weegar and would have been happy to bring him here. But I'd much prefer Chychrun.

I dont really think that Chychrun is any better defensively and Weegar plays a physical brand of hockey as well. Weegar had a tough playoff but that is really not indicative of how he usually plays. He isn't proned to those types of gaffs very often. I keep seeing this narrative but its not very accurate. Chychrun has really struggled with defensive zone coverage. He has hardly played RD and cant stay healthy.

While I agree this team really needs a hard stay at home RD that can play in the top 4 similar to Zub really.

 

[DaveMatthew]

I dont really think that Chychrun is any better defensively and Weegar plays a physical brand of hockey as well. Weegar had a tough playoff but that is really not indicative of how he usually plays. He isn't proned to those types of gaffs very often. I keep seeing this narrative but its not very accurate. Chychrun has really struggled with defensive zone coverage. He has hardly played RD and cant stay healthy.

Perhaps, but as I mentioned, Chychrun is 4 years younger than Weegar. If you look back at what Weegar was when he was 24, or project out what Chychrun will be at 27/28, it tilts the argument to Chychrun's side even. Especially for this team.

The extra 2 inches and extra 20lbs is a big advantage, too.

With that said, I have no doubt that Dorion was very in on the Weegar talks, just like he's in on Chychrun.

 

[Laphroaig]

Based on ?

Just a very strong feeling. He's been here two years and still doesn't speak the language. Dorion never mentions him as an item on his to do list. I hope I'm wrong but I think Dorion has already sounded out Zub's management and there was little enthusiasm for remaining in Ottawa. I suspect that Zub would like to go somewhere with more Russians on the team and a larger Russian community in the city. Of course I could be wrong.

 

[bert]

Perhaps, but as I mentioned, Chychrun is 4 years younger than Weegar. If you look back at what Weegar was when he was 24, or project out what Chychrun will be at 27/28, it tilts the argument to Chychrun's side even. Especially for this team.

The extra 2 inches and extra 20lbs is a big advantage, too.

Agreed on all accounts but Weegar is a late bloomer dont think thats the case with Chychrun. Considering the ask on Chychrun the sens shouldnt be thinking about giving up that much. Not at this point for the franchise and where they are currently at. Weegar isnt coming here so im not really sure why im debating it haha. But just that he is better than some posters have suggested.

Id love to get Chychrun but not at the current ask.

 

[Micklebot]

Just a very strong feeling. He's been here two years and still doesn't speak the language. Dorion never mentions him as an item on his to do list. I hope I'm wrong but I think Dorion has already sounded out Zub's management and there was little enthusiasm for remaining in Ottawa. I suspect that Zub would like to go somewhere with more Russians on the team and a larger Russian community in the city. Of course I could be wrong.

What the hell does that matter? It's tough learning a new language in your mid 20s, and it's not like signing with another team means he wouldn't need to learn english... There really aren't a lot of teams with more russians anyways not seeing that as a factor.

 

[Laphroaig]

What the hell does that matter? It's tough learning a new language in your mid 20s, and it's not like signing with another team means he wouldn't need to learn english... There really aren't a lot

What the hell does that matter? It's tough learning a new language in your mid 20s, and it's not like signing with another team means he wouldn't need to learn english... There really aren't a lot of teams with more russians anyways not seeing that as a facto

of teams with more russians anyways not seeing that as a factor.

Good for you.

 

[Ser Grogu]

Good for you.

This was last October

 

[armani]

Based on ?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Just a very strong feeling. He's been here two years and still doesn't speak the language. Dorion never mentions him as an item on his to do list. I hope I'm wrong but I think Dorion has already sounded out Zub's management and there was little enthusiasm for remaining in Ottawa. I suspect that Zub would like to go somewhere with more Russians on the team and a larger Russian community in the city. Of course I could be wrong.

Not buying the vibes thing or the Russian thing. They may not have known at first but they know now. I am sure there are a few balls in the air right now.
Sens should be doing everything they can to sign him .

The fans love him and he knows that.