OT: Football thread (2024 season)

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Thank you Greg. Saleh and Hackett earned this L, thanks for not bailing them out.

 

[17futurecap]

Same old

Fire the cue ball coach

 

[Brutananadilewski]

*Shrugs*

I thought Rodgers sucked ass on those last 2 drives.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

*Shrugs*

I thought Rodgers sucked ass on those last 2 drives.

Everyone sucked

 

[17futurecap]

Everyone sucked

Hack not letting Allen get the ball 4 times from the 1 yard line ended the game, just gross incompetence.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Yeah he’s awful , only reason this game is close

I can't believe the Jets lost to a QB performance like that, Jets looked like they would win it in the end. The betting percentages said Jets. They probably should have been able to move closer than a 50 yard FG with all their weapons.

 

[majordomo]

Game was lost when they couldn't punch it in on 1st and goal from the 1. Even without the penalty that forced the field goal, I doubt they would have scored.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Straight up an all time Jets loss.

Pathetic.

 

[nyr2k2]

I don't know about Rodgers. He's fine. Good, even. But he's immobile and can't really extend the play at a high level, struggles with his accuracy on his second a third reads, and has absolutely no chemistry with Wilson (and would rather throw to Lazard). I'm not pinning it all on him, but he's clearly not the savior.

 

[NickyFotiu]

There were so many good RBs available this offseason for $6mill to $10 mill. I think the Giants made a mistake not grabbing one. As bad as their 1-3 record looks they may end up today 1 game out of first place.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

Everyone sucked

Won't argue that but he was getting rid of the ball too quick, and there were a few underthrown balls.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Go Vikes

 

[Synergy27]

I don't know about Rodgers. He's fine. Good, even. But he's immobile and can't really extend the play at a high level, struggles with his accuracy on his second a third reads, and has absolutely no chemistry with Wilson (and would rather throw to Lazard). I'm not pinning it all on him, but he's clearly not the savior.

He’s over 40 years old. It’s insane that he’s still playing.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I don't know about Rodgers. He's fine. Good, even. But he's immobile and can't really extend the play at a high level, struggles with his accuracy on his second a third reads, and has absolutely no chemistry with Wilson (and would rather throw to Lazard). I'm not pinning it all on him, but he's clearly not the savior.

I mentioned his mobility had declined a bit for around 3 years after last seasons game vs the Giants. People got upset. His arm is still solid but like most 40 year olds he has slowed down.

Vikings keep showing they are for real.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

There were so many good RBs available this offseason for $6mill to $10 mill. I think the Giants made a mistake not grabbing one. As bad as their 1-3 record looks they may end up today 1 game out of first place.

With our receivers?

I'm hoping we can offload Slayton to the Steelers.

 

[SA16]

Rodgers is immobile? He was moving all around the pocket this and last week. Even had a designed rollout this week. This reads like a generic post about an old player. Mobility isn't Lamar Jackson or nothing. Until recent years almost all the QBs were relatively immobile. Brady and Manning just stood in the pocket and slid around to avoid pressure. They weren't out there putting up big runs. I haven't seen anything different from Rodgers.

The takes on this game are obviously going to be out of hand. It's all going to get blamed on the coaching staff which is the usual nonsense blame. "They had 10 days and this is the gameplan they came up with?" Well, yea, I don't think in their 10 days of preparations they were expecting that it would rain for almost the entire game. Same for the penalties. It's the coaches staffs fault that McDonald lined up offside twice? Like he doesn't know better? It's the coaching staff's fault that Lazard held on that screen play? It's their fault that he was given a (soft) unsportsmanlike conduct penalty? It's on the players and it's execution. (Not saying the coaching staff is good or anything).

Maybe they could have run Allen on the 1 but I didn't really think Allen was significantly better than Hall or anything today. Obviously, the results were better, but Hall was hit in the backfield a bunch and on Allen's few decent runs the o-line just did a better job.

There's been huge upsets nonstop these first four weeks. It's not like this is anything new.

 

[17futurecap]

They shouldn’t let this fool and Hackett go to London.

 

[NickyFotiu]

With our receivers?

I'm hoping we can offload Slayton to the Steelers.

I think the WR are okay. No running game or TE.

Want to hear something crazy? I think the Giants should use Neal at guard for running plays. Neal can't pass block or play tackle but he isn't bad on run blocking.

 

[17futurecap]

Rodgers is immobile? He was moving all around the pocket this and last week. Even had a designed rollout this week. This reads like a generic post about an old player. Mobility isn't Lamar Jackson or nothing. Until recent years almost all the QBs were relatively immobile. Brady and Manning just stood in the pocket and slid around to avoid pressure. They weren't out there putting up big runs. I haven't seen anything different from Rodgers.

The takes on this game are obviously going to be out of hand. It's all going to get blamed on the coaching staff which is the usual nonsense blame. "They had 10 days and this is the gameplan they came up with?" Well, yea, I don't think in their 10 days of preparations they were expecting that it would rain for almost the entire game. Same for the penalties. It's the coaches staffs fault that McDonald lined up offside twice? Like he doesn't know better? It's the coaching staff's fault that Lazard held on that screen play? It's their fault that he was given a (soft) unsportsmanlike conduct penalty? It's on the players and it's execution. (Not saying the coaching staff is good or anything).

Maybe they could have run Allen on the 1 but I didn't really think Allen was significantly better than Hall or anything today. Obviously, the results were better, but Hall was hit in the backfield a bunch and on Allen's few decent runs the o-line just did a better job.

There's been huge upsets nonstop these first four weeks. It's not like this is anything new.

You didn’t think a guy that had 10 carries for 4 yards was worse then Allen who falls forward and gets 3 yards?

 

[SA16]

You didn’t think a guy that had 10 carries for 4 yards was worse then Allen who falls forward and gets 3 yards?

Allen did not fall forward and get 3 yards. He had a few carries where the o-line blocked well for him. The blocking was bad all day. Allen in for Hall on the goal line likely would have made no difference

 

[17futurecap]

Allen did not fall forward and get 3 yards. He had a few carries where the o-line blocked well for him. The blocking was bad all day. Allen in for Hall on the goal line likely would have made no difference

K, Breece was running in quick sand all day.

 

[SA16]

K, Breece was running in quick sand all day.

They play the least important position regular in the sport. It's basically all the line. Hall had a bad game and had two stupid penalties and a drop. I don't think Allen's success had very much to do with him and was just more circumstance that the times he was in they happened to get better blocking.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

I think the WR are okay. No running game or TE.

Want to hear something crazy? I think the Giants should use Neal at guard for running plays. Neal can't pass block or play tackle but he isn't bad on run blocking.

Oh, hell no!

They can't adjust for the life of them, are oblivious to where the marker is, can't routinely come down with the rock.

Then add in a QB like Jones...just...burn it down.

 

[17futurecap]

They play the least important position regular in the sport. It's basically all the line. Hall had a bad game and had two stupid penalties and a drop. I don't think Allen's success had very much to do with him and was just more circumstance that the times he was in they happened to get better blocking.

It’s first and goal from the 1, bad line good line, why are they not using their big back?

 

[SA16]

It’s first and goal from the 1, bad line good line, why are they not using their big back?

Well, for one, Hall had a 1 yard TD run last week and a 3 yard TD run in W1 so it doesn't seem like he is incapable of succeeding in short yardage roles.

I think the better question to ask, if you want to get into coaching, is why are they putting a linebacker on the field at fullback?