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Value of: Foerster and Cates

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Long term move. We get a young CENTER and acquire q 2nd order, potentially a center as well. I like Cates but move makes sense imo. We are not winning anytime soon
 
Winston Wolf said:
Not that it has any basis in reality, but the Flyers value Cates like the Lightning value Cirelli.

So yeah, no one is acquiring him.
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I know Torts does but does Briere also? I also vaguely remember some trade chatter around Cates but that could have been pure fabrication
 
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Cates, to ME, is a 4C. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But a chance to get a 2C or more? Imo you throw in Cates, I'm sorry. Nothing personal in personnel decisions like that
 
LordStanlersCup said:
I know Torts does but does Briere also? I also vaguely remember some trade chatter around Cates but that could have been pure fabrication
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Briere falls under Tortorella in the Flyers' hierarchy. There's no chance Briere trades him without Tortorella's permission. Hell, I bet Briere needs his sign off to even trade Laughton.

I think there were reports that teams were interested in Cates a year or two ago, but he's definitely played very well recently and solidified himself as someone that the Flyers see as a core guy.
 
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FlyerFire said:
Cates, to ME, is a 4C. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But a chance to get a 2C or more? Imo you throw in Cates, I'm sorry. Nothing personal in personnel decisions like that
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4c? Most good teams have a 20 pts guy as their 4c. Foerster-Cates-Brink line is clicking lately and thats not a 4th line.
Poehling is fine 4c.
But no 1c or 2c in sight.
Only a Konecny trade can get a young 1c back +
 
The flyers are VERY high on Forester. Good two way player with a scoring touch and young enough to be part of the rebuild. While not on the level of michkov he's got first line upside. Maybe he'd be available for a center with a similar profile but I don't know that teams are moving any.
Cates is a torts darling and his effort level and defensive game say it's for good reason. That being said he's at best a middle six guy and couturier is under contract forever with luchenko on the way. When the flyers acquire michkovs eventual middle man Cates immediately becomes movable
 
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Tampa, they don't really have 2 young centers but would Geekie and a 2nd get close?
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Sorry, but f*** no.

The only way they get traded is for a top line or top pair player. A more realistic trade with Foerster is Cozens + good prospect for Foerster

Winston Wolf said:
Briere falls under Tortorella in the Flyers' hierarchy. There's no chance Briere trades him without Tortorella's permission. Hell, I bet Briere needs his sign off to even trade Laughton.

I think there were reports that teams were interested in Cates a year or two ago, but he's definitely played very well recently and solidified himself as someone that the Flyers see as a core guy.
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EDM offered a 1st for cates last summer. Unreported, so don’t go looking for an article. I know someone in flyers FO

thedjpd said:
Selke caliber.

No, I'm not being facetious. Look up his defensive metrics.
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Same with Cates, too.

Cates is a Danault. He won’t be traded.
 
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Yeah, Cates is definitely not a 4th liner.

He recently came off a 13 game pointless streak, but just prior to that he had 17 points in his last 19 games. 4th liners aren't putting up even strength points like that for a quarter of the season, playing with Foerster and Brink. He obviously needs to be more consistent if he wants to be paid like a top 6 guy. This is also Foerster's sophomore season, so there's no reason to think he won't be a 25+ goal, ~50 point guy for a long time. I think he's more available due to the Flyers' logjam at RW, but he just turned 23 so there's no reason for him to be traded for futures unless it's something enticing.
 
FlyguyOX said:
Sorry, but f*** no.

The only way they get traded is for a top line or top pair player. A more realistic trade with Foerster is Cozens + good prospect for Foerster


EDM offered a 1st for cates last summer. Unreported, so don’t go looking for an article. I know someone in flyers FO


Same with Cates, too.

Cates is a Danault. He won’t be traded.
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no its not
 
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