tycoonheart
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Frigging Ovi was high 5ing him on the bench after his hip check.
I like watching the guy well enough. I'd be thrilled/amazed/bewildered if he kept up a similar level of play for an extended stretch. I just remember how the big Sloan hit got everyone fired up and on his side for a while too. We know how that ended.
See, there's the rub. You only know after an extended viewing that Sloan was not going to end up hitting like that again.Sloan threw one hit got attacked and never tried to hit like that again.
That's probably why his tenure here ended before his contract ran out. That was not his game.
George invested time and term into the wrong type of player, a player that was just more of what he had plenty of, mobile and soft LH shot defensemen.
Olek is not redundant. He actually brings something new to the right side of the ice. The chance of getting hit.
See, there's the rub. You only know after an extended viewing that Sloan was not going to end up hitting like that again.
With Olesky, we've only seen the good side. I don't think that we can assume that he will connect on all of his checks, never take any bad penalties, never put himself out of position trying to make a hit, etc. It would be the same as only watching two games of good Semin and making the assumption that every night will go as well.
Based on what people that watched him in Hershey his is a big hitter. Some quick and lazy research showed this to me:
in 170 games in Hershey Tyler Sloan ammassed roughly 250 PIMS. 7 fights.
in 55 games in Hershey Oleksy snagged 155 PIMs. Double the rate. 11 fights. Astronomically higher rate.
Oleksy seems to be a completely different player.
See, there's the rub. You only know after an extended viewing that Sloan was not going to end up hitting like that again.
With Olesky, we've only seen the good side. I don't think that we can assume that he will connect on all of his checks, never take any bad penalties, never put himself out of position trying to make a hit, etc. It would be the same as only watching two games of good Semin and making the assumption that every night will go as well.
So Oleksy takes more minor/non-fight PIMs than Sloan per game (although that's not adjusted for icetime, if they're really different in that respect); 1.82 to 1.26. More physical, or more "HHS" type penalties because he's a lesser skater?
PIMs are an indication of aggressiveness. Alot of those I bet were of the roughing variety. And I would further suggest that many of those were matching minors too. The more physically involved you will be the more penalties you will get generally.
He sure looks like a far greater competitor than Sloan ever did.
PIMs are an indication of aggressiveness. Alot of those I bet were of the roughing variety. And I would further suggest that many of those were matching minors too. The more physically involved you will be the more penalties you will get generally.
He sure looks like a far greater competitor than Sloan ever did.
How soon we forget Sloan's first game in Calgary where he blew up Langkow with one of the biggest hits we've seen from a Caps' defenseman in ages and then dropped the gloves with Bourque.
Some PIMs are an indication of aggressiveness. Some aren't. I imagine he was more of the aggressive type but you need the breakdown to really know, not just the number.
What does their play in Hershey have to do with competitiveness in DC?Keep being negative if you like. In the other thread we discussed this. Different players. Oleksy in Hershey got 2x the PIMs and 4x the fights, on a per game basis, than Sloan did in his time.
competitiveness in DC?
I'm guessing I was right in what I said last night: Orrleksy wouldn't be getting half the praise he is if he had 30 PIMs in Hershey and not 100+.
competitiveness in DC?
I'm guessing I was right in what I said last night: Orrleksy wouldn't be getting half the praise he is if he had 30 PIMs in Hershey and not 100+.
You know its ok to admit you were wrong right?
I mean there is no one on here who spewed more venom at GMGM in the day but since the turnaround in 07 I stepped back and gave him credit.
Oleksy looks good. Its only 2 games but he does and he provides many things our other D do not. You can't deny that. Be happy for him and the Caps.