Confirmed Trade: [CGY/PHI] Morgan Frost, Joel Farabee for Andrei Kuzmenko, Jakob Pelletier, 2025 2nd, 2028 7th

[VanillaCoke]

Farabee or Risto first two thoughts

 

[SnS]

Oh for f***s sake. lol.

 

[thrillhous]

Kuzmenko for Farabee?

Would be a good move for the Flames.

 

[Some Other Flame]

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[crackdown44]

We all still saw the shooting % and bad skating

There are lots of bad skaters in the NHL who still produce. He was legitimately good his first year in Van and he finished last year pretty solid in Calgary too

Seems to not stick anywhere for very long though. Kind of needs the perfect fit for things to click but the talent is there

 

[Zirakzigil]

Oh for f***s sake. lol.

Dont want him to go to Philly either

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Interesting...

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

We all still saw the shooting % and bad skating

Shooting percentage isn't an explanation on its own, it's just a metric that leaves out the explanation.

He is a finisher and it reluctant to shoot. His successful seasons will always look like shooting percentage outliers. Sort of like the scoring side of Tanguay or Ribeiro. Sometimes to maddening degrees, they won't shoot unless it's an A+ chance.

It's also funny that people want to play it both ways. Kuzmenko sucks and Petey is overrated.

Petey had a big hand in Kuzmenko's success but Kuz also had the creativity and skills to play off of Petey better than anyone has since.

Kuzmenko can be useful and score a lot playing off of a linemate/line that does most of the puck retrievals and transporting which means he probably has to be in the perfect situation to be a big part of a winning team.

But he's not useless or terrible. He's just a boutique item that one purchases when their other ducks are a in a row.

 

[SnS]

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This f***ing garbage asa organization. Frost was also not on the bench half that time.

 

[Turin]

There are lots of bad skaters in the NHL who still produce. He was legitimately good his first year in Van and he finished last year pretty solid in Calgary too

Seems to not stick anywhere for very long though. Kind of needs the perfect fit for things to click but the talent is there

He was but there were also signs it was unsustainable. There was talk of his coach not liking him that first year already - and the team was done with him after like 2 weeks into the next year.

 

[SoundAndFury]

Exactly the kind of guy Tortorella craves.

 

[SnS]

Dont want him to go to Philly either

Interesting...

Trash ass organization deserves everything they get if they trade Frost for Kuzmenko.

 

[Empoleon8771]

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I would suffocate from laughing if the Flyers traded Frost for Kuzmenko. Please god let that happen.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Frost? Flames were rumored to be looking for a center.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Trash ass organization deserves everything they get if they trade Frost for Kuzmenko.

As penance we will give you Sully.

 

[JPeeper]

To be fair that Lindholm trade was a lose-lose for both sides. Pretty much everyone involved in that trade ended up a dud.

In what world do the Flames come out of that trade as a loss? Flames cleaned up in that trade.

 

[Volica]

Can’t imagine frost being involved here. Kuzmenko isn’t worth more than a depth pick.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Is this guy a Flyers-type player though?

 

[SnS]

As penance we will give you Sully.

This honestly is probably the straw that breaks my care about this organization.

 

[crackdown44]

He was but there were also signs it was unsustainable. There was talk of his coach not liking him that first year already - and the team was done with him after like 2 weeks into the next year.

Yeah not 39 goals sustainable but he was playing well enough to be a 25/25 guy. The problem is when he’s off he’s not only useless but a net negative. And he’s off way too often

 

[Zirakzigil]

Is this guy a Flyers-type player though?

Flyers or Torts? Def not a Torts player.

 

[pomx]

Torts and Kuz is going to be pure comedy

 

[BKarchitect]

Kuzmenko will score 20 goals in the next 30 meaningless Flyers games, costing them lottery ping pong balls and probably getting a new contract after which he will score 8 goals for the entirety of next season and being completely useless.

 

[Some Other Flame]

 

[Volica]

In what world do the Flames come out of that trade as a loss? Flames cleaned up in that trade.

lol.
Hunter and Gridin are both top prospects in our season. No matter how some fans want to flip this, that was a 10/10 win for the Flames.

Somehow the Bruins lost the transactions between Calgary and Vancouver.

 

[Bond]

Is this guy a Flyers-type player though?

Definitely not.