Rumor: Flames expected to fetch a 2nd round pick at minimum for G Dan Vladar

[Some Other Flame]

At minimum, backup goalie Dan Vladar is expected to fetch a second-round pick. Calgary is shopping him to teams that need a low-cost option in goal. He’s signed for two more years at $2.2 million per season.

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[Fatass]

Lots of goalies come on the cheap. As a backup Vladar is okay. A second rounder from a top club, who needs a cheap backup, is certainly possible.

 

[Seachd]

So many goalies available, it seems unlikely that someone would like him specifically that much.

 

[BigRangy]

I really doubt it would happen, he was solid last year but really fell off down the stretch. He did post great #s in the AHL but that was a long time ago.

 

[Body Checker]

He will get a 2nd; a trending 2A or 1B signed for two years at $2.2 has a ton of value.

 

[Jacob]

2.2m cap hit and career .899 save percentage? I doubt it. I’d take my chances on the free agent market.

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

It's crazy how many guys are available and supposedly all getting great returns.

 

[Nanuuk]

2.2m cap hit and career .899 save percentage? I doubt it. I’d take my chances on the free agent market.

Then you haven't watched the guy play.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

He’s a good player. It’s not a surprise to me. There are a lot of other goalies out there but I think he’s got higher potential than the vast majority of those other guys.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

So many goalies available, it seems unlikely that someone would like him specifically that much.

Normally I'd agree, but he has terms and cheap term, so a pick around 50th I could see for them.

 

[wintersej]

I’ve been told that is what Ullmark is worth. Crazy.

 

[MXD]

I mean... He's young and has been a below-average NHLer so far (but otherwise good enough for backup duties, though nowhere near the quality a playoff team would be comfortable with to start the season as a clear 1B option as opposed to a backup), and he's signed at 2.2M, which is probably appropriate (but definitely not cheap).

The only way I can see it work is if the acquiring team thinks there's an upside here. ... And if the Flames send a 4th and a contract (hopeless ECHLer or something) the other way.

 

[Mike Jones]

I'm surprised ownership is going to OK rebuild-type moves.

 

[DJJones]

He was great last year and decent for about half the year this year. Then fell off a cliff.

Take the 2nd and run

 

[Jacob]

Then you haven't watched the guy play.

I have. He played well against the Penguins earlier in the year. Still not worth a 2nd.

Georgiev returned a couple middle-round picks.

 

[DJJones]

I'm surprised ownership is going to OK rebuild-type moves.

It's either trade him or Markstrom

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

Recent goalie trades

Georgiev - 2 3rds + 5th
Vanecek - 2nd round pick swap + 3rd
Adin Hill - 4th

2nd round minimum seems a bit steep

 

[Canuck Luck]

How is he worth a 2nd at minimum?!? His career numbers are below avg and he’s 26 before the start of next season.

If I’m a GM, I’d much rather try to sign Blackwood or Nedjelkovich for free at 2M before I trade a 2nd for Vladar at 2.2M.

You get a similar quality goalie with similar upside.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I would do it as a Habs fan if he is forced to remove the L from his last name and change his first name to Garth.

Garth Vadar. Then he can wear a black goalie mask.

 

[Nanuuk]

I have. He played well against the Penguins earlier in the year. Still not worth a 2nd.

Georgiev returned a couple middle-round picks.

I've watched all his games. His Sv% was done, but so was the league average (0.894 vs 0.904).

His GAA, 2.87, was better than the league average of 2.97.

His record was 14-6-5 on a team that struggled scoring and this in only his 2nd full year in the league.

He was drafted in the 3rd round and Calgary paid a 3rd round pick to obtain him.

Now with a couple of years under his belt and a not too bad performance, he will easily fetch a 2nd rounder. Especially by a team looking for a 6'5" 209 lb. 25 year old with a lot of runway. Being cost controlled for two years is a bonus.

 

[TheBeard]

Reminds me of Cam Talbot many years ago.

 

[Jumptheshark]

NHL offseason trade board 3.0: How a Flames firesale could impact the market — plus all the latest rumblings

Maybe the biggest question heading into the NHL Draft next week is this: Which team is headed for more roster turnover, the Jets or Flames?

theathletic.com

no--that is their ask for him

 

[Jacob]

I've watched all his games. His Sv% was done, but so was the league average (0.894 vs 0.904).

His GAA, 2.87, was better than the league average of 2.97.

His record was 14-6-5 on a team that struggled scoring and this in only his 2nd full year in the league.

He was drafted in the 3rd round and Calgary paid a 3rd round pick to obtain him.

Now with a couple of years under his belt and a not too bad performance, he will easily fetch a 2nd rounder. Especially by a team looking for a 6'5" 209 lb. 25 year old with a lot of runway. Being cost controlled for two years is a bonus.

You should definitely get your hopes up.

 

[BLNY]

 

[Mike Jones]

It's either trade him or Markstrom

All I was saying was that a player-for-pick trade is unusual for the Flames. They could try to trade him for another player and that seems to be closer to what ownership is comfortable with.