Proposal: Fixing the Oilers for 2019/2020.

[Mackiaveli]

Trade 1: Lucic (1m retained) and the Oilers 2019 1st to LA for Kovalchuk and the Kings 2020 2nd round pick.

The Oilers shed themselves of Lucic's long term deal without having to eat too much salary and without paying too much of a premium. Kovalchuk is a good candidate for a player that could come back in a Lucic trade. The Oilers get a cheaper option in Lucic who fits the Kings playstyle, and a 1st round pick (likely to be late teens) to make it worth taking on his contract. Kovalchuk likely wouldn't lift his NMC for Edmonton, but under the pretense that he would be moved to Florida, maybe he would.

Trade 2: Kovalchuk (2m retained), Russell, Bouchard to Florida for Hoffman, Reimer, and Huberdeau.

The Panthers are looking to shed some of their larger contracts so that they can bring in Bob and Panarin this summer. The two most likely candidates: Hoffman and Huberdeau, are obviously attractive pieces for a team like Edmonton that desperately needs wing depth. Seeing as they are looking at making Florida the Russia Factory, it makes sense they would be interested in Kovalchuk at 4.25m. With the Panthers looking to add a top 4D, them taking back a bit of a poor contract in Russel (For only 2 seasons) makes some sense, where he would be an improvement over Pysyk and Weegar. In this deal, Edmonton adds two top 6 wingers, and Florida adds both short and long-term solutions on the right side. Florida frees up nearly 6 million dollars, while adding players that can contribute.

Trade 3: Andrej Sekera, Edmonton 2020 2nd to Buffalo for Marco Scandella

Scandella is not a favourite in Buffalo and is not being used appropriately. Sekera can come in and play sheltered minutes making Buffalo's right side truly complete, or play behind Ristolainen in the absence of Bogosian. The pick is to balance out the extra year and the extra salary with Sekera's deal.

Obviously this would not be the end of moves; the team would still be right against the cap without having resigned Khaira, Puljujarvi, Rattie, Chiasson or Petrovic... However, they would have effectively shed half of Lucic's salary, Russel and Sekera's deals, and added two top 6 wingers. They would need to free up some cap space to fill out their roster, but if they were able to move Reimer, they would have 14+ million in cap space free up in the 2020/2021 season AND have a top 5 consisting of McDavid/RNH/Hoffman/Huberdeau/Draisaitl, and a top 3 of Klefbom, Nurse, Larsson

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[EmeticDonut]

Step 1 ought to be remove the current brass.

 

[Kcb12345]

That doesn't get you Huberdeau and maybe gets you Hoffman alone. A top 4 D would need to be going back to get Huberdeau I assume

Also Scandella sucks. It's not about being misused, he is that bad this season it's ridiculous

 

[Bryanbryoil]

**** trading our 1st to get rid of Looch. We have plenty of other ways to shed cap while also retaining what is likely to be a lottery pick.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Trade 2: Kovalchuk (2m retained), Russell, Bouchard to Florida for Hoffman, Reimer, and Huberdeau.

If that's all it takes to get both Hoffman and Huberdeau, I would think a lot of teams will be lining up with better offers.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Hard no to dumping a great pick to move Lucic for f***ing Kovalchuk.

Scandella is awful.

Not moving Bouchard but Florida doesn’t do that.

 

[mc1laren]

That second trade never happens!!

I would argue that Huberdeau is worth more than that alone. If you want two top 6 wingers, youre going to have to pony up a lot more than that. Bouchard is the main piece in this deal. If you had two of them then maybe there was a shot at this happening. The value just isn't there unfortunately for Florida. They could get much much more by trading Hoffman and Huberdeau separately.

Not sure if im off with Huberdeau's value but the likely asking price is a 1st, a top prospect, and a decent roster player with a manageable cap hit. Hoffman is probably a 1st and prospect as well (45 pts in 54 games) or at the least multiple picks and prospect/roster player.

 

[Patagonia]

Every team declines the Oilers offer

Step 1 - Kovi is not waiving for the Oilers. LAK wants to shed salaries and not stuck with Lucic.
Step 2 - Bouchard is untouchable and the best prospect. Huberdeau is a nice player, but Hoffman should not be near McDavid after the problems in OTT with EK.
Step 3 - Sekera is injured with 2.5 years remaining might not play again. Scandella has some value with a year remaining. Oilers adding a 2nd is not worth the trouble.

There is too much salary to be dumped with little value.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Every team declines the Oilers offer

Step 1 - Kovi is not waiving for the Oilers. LAK wants to shed salaries and not stuck with Lucic.
Step 2 - Bouchard is untouchable and the best prospect. Huberdeau is a nice player, but Hoffman should not be near McDavid after the problems in OTT with EK.
Step 3 - Sekera is injured with 2.5 years remaining might not play again. Scandella has some value with a year remaining. Oilers adding a 2nd is not worth the trouble.

There is too much salary to be dumped with little value.

Sekera is playing in the AHL on a condition stint, he'll be with the big club very soon.

 

[Mackiaveli]

what is likely to be a lottery pick.

This would be a draft day trade, sorry I should have made that more clear. These are not deadline deals.

The idea is that they don't launch into the lottery and get a late teens pick.

If that's all it takes to get both Hoffman and Huberdeau, I would think a lot of teams will be lining up with better offers.

I see it as Kovalchuk retained = Hoffman given the Russian connection, the length/cost of the deals, and Hoffman's wife.

I then see it as Huberdeau and Reimer (negative value, they want to clear cap) for Bouchard (10th overall pick), and a serviceable top 4 guy. Maybe the Oilers have to add a pick?

Hard no to dumping a great pick to move Lucic for ****ing Kovalchuk.

Trade would completely be contingent on then moving Kovy to Florida for the other package; think of it as a three way trade where Edmonton just takes him long enough to eat salary.

 

[HolyGhost]

just wow at suddenly Oiler crap has so much value all of a sudden,. Why does Lucic waive his NMC to go to LA? He burned that bridge. And the second deal is just silly. You are sending bread crumbs for a stud and why does Florida take the broken Russian, regardless of retention?

 

[Mackiaveli]

They could get much much more by trading Hoffman and Huberdeau separately.

I am a neutral fan FWIW.

I just think that Hoffman's value is going to be shit on by the fact that his wife is a loony-toon. I also think that the greater value of Hoffman AND Huberdeau is decreased when you're effectively looking to move them both, taking as LITTLE salary back as possible. They need to have the space for Bob and Panarin (that's the entire reason you move either).

Step 1 - Kovi is not waiving for the Oilers. LAK wants to shed salaries and not stuck with Lucic.

As I said in OP, Kovi wouldn't for Oilers, but he would for Florida I'd imagine. It's a flip. Kings get a cheaper player who can mentor the young kids coming up and protect Vilardi/Dolan.

Bouchard is untouchable and the best prospect. Huberdeau is a nice player, but Hoffman should not be near McDavid after the problems in OTT with EK.

McDavid isn't married, kid probably is single. Hoffman wasn't the problem, his wife was --- and he would likely be out before it mattered anyways. The team needs help, it is hurting their business at this point. I agree Bouchard is a big piece, but you have to give to get in this league.

Step 3 - Sekera is injured with 2.5 years remaining might not play again. Scandella has some value with a year remaining. Oilers adding a 2nd is not worth the trouble.

Sekera has a shitty contract with his injury history, but Scandella as others have noted has been... not great this season. The pick is to justify taking on the longer contract; Scandella expires the following season.

 

[AmadiosAmigos]

LA doesnt touch that trade ever.. theyve been in cap hell longer then any other team and looking to get out of it.

Jeff Carter, Anze Kopitar, Dustin Brown, Trevor Lewis all provide far more valuable mentoring to the young kids then Milan Lucic ever could

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I see it as Kovalchuk retained = Hoffman given the Russian connection, the length/cost of the deals, and Hoffman's wife.

I then see it as Huberdeau and Reimer (negative value, they want to clear cap) for Bouchard (10th overall pick), and a serviceable top 4 guy. Maybe the Oilers have to add a pick?

No, just no. Kovi, even with retention isn't anywhere close to the value of Hoffman. And wasn't the stuff about "his wife" found out to be total BS. Hoffman has way more value.

And they aren't sacrificing Huberdeau for a good prospect and Russell, who is overpaid and really not that good just to move Reimer. I'm not a Florida fan, but that's really bad for them.

 

[Tkachuckycheese]

Quick fixes and trades have put the Oilers in this position they are in. They need to keep drafting and just build up the depth.

 

[TFHockey]

I am a neutral fan FWIW.

I just think that Hoffman's value is going to be **** on by the fact that his wife is a loony-toon. I also think that the greater value of Hoffman AND Huberdeau is decreased when you're effectively looking to move them both, taking as LITTLE salary back as possible. They need to have the space for Bob and Panarin (that's the entire reason you move either).



As I said in OP, Kovi wouldn't for Oilers, but he would for Florida I'd imagine. It's a flip. Kings get a cheaper player who can mentor the young kids coming up and protect Vilardi/Dolan.



McDavid isn't married, kid probably is single. Hoffman wasn't the problem, his wife was --- and he would likely be out before it mattered anyways. The team needs help, it is hurting their business at this point. I agree Bouchard is a big piece, but you have to give to get in this league.



Sekera has a ****ty contract with his injury history, but Scandella as others have noted has been... not great this season. The pick is to justify taking on the longer contract; Scandella expires the following season.

He isn't.

 

[Patagonia]

LAK will never touch Lucic. Not only about the same salary, but double the term. Kovi has some value that can be used to trade elsewhere. LAK has enough skilled veterans and considering the size of the players on the team, well suited to protect the youngsters.

Hoffman threats to EK, wife and the baby they lost.

• “Monika Caryk has uttered numerous statements wishing my unborn child dead,” says Melinda Karlsson’s sworn statement to the court.
• Erik Karlsson, “She also uttered that she wished I was dead and that someone should ‘take out’ my husband’s legs to ‘end his career.’
• “Monika Caryk has posted over 1,000 negative and derogatory statements about me as a professional.”

This type of player is fortunate to be still playing, but there is no chance Oilers want him near McDavid in the dressing room.

Sekera is done and likely retiring with the injury, which impacts the Cap. Why would another team pay nearly $12M on the remaining 2.5 years to not play for a 2nd and still lose Scandella which could likely get a 4th round pick?

Offers are simply terrible for Cap Dumps.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Quick fixes and trades have put the Oilers in this position they are in. They need to keep drafting and just build up the depth.

I think they are just on the brink of getting it. Just a few more Hall for Larsson-type trades and they'll be off to the playoffs.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Hoffman threats to EK, wife and the baby they lost.

• “Monika Caryk has uttered numerous statements wishing my unborn child dead,” says Melinda Karlsson’s sworn statement to the court.
• Erik Karlsson, “She also uttered that she wished I was dead and that someone should ‘take out’ my husband’s legs to ‘end his career.’
• “Monika Caryk has posted over 1,000 negative and derogatory statements about me as a professional.”

This type of player is fortunate to be still playing, but there is no chance Oilers want him near McDavid in the dressing room.

I'm not defending Hoffman, but didn't it later come out that not only was there no proof, it was said she was not the person doing it? Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought I heard that.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Start over as an expansion team.

Nobody wants their scraps

 

[780il]

f*** no the 1st one

2nd one - We need Bouchard badly but this one is a win

No to the 3rd one

 

[mydnyte]

#1 = unlikely
#2 = impossible
#3 = pointless

 

[periferal]

You can post as many potential signings and trades as you want, but something is wrong with the culture of the Oilers. I don't know what it is, but I will always start with ownership first.

 

[DomBarr]

Trade 1: Lucic (1m retained) and the Oilers 2019 1st to LA for Kovalchuk and the Kings 2020 2nd round pick.

The Oilers shed themselves of Lucic's long term deal without having to eat too much salary and without paying too much of a premium. Kovalchuk is a good candidate for a player that could come back in a Lucic trade. The Oilers get a cheaper option in Lucic who fits the Kings playstyle, and a 1st round pick (likely to be late teens) to make it worth taking on his contract. Kovalchuk likely wouldn't lift his NMC for Edmonton, but under the pretense that he would be moved to Florida, maybe he would.

Trade 2: Kovalchuk (2m retained), Russell, Bouchard to Florida for Hoffman, Reimer, and Huberdeau.

The Panthers are looking to shed some of their larger contracts so that they can bring in Bob and Panarin this summer. The two most likely candidates: Hoffman and Huberdeau, are obviously attractive pieces for a team like Edmonton that desperately needs wing depth. Seeing as they are looking at making Florida the Russia Factory, it makes sense they would be interested in Kovalchuk at 4.25m. With the Panthers looking to add a top 4D, them taking back a bit of a poor contract in Russel (For only 2 seasons) makes some sense, where he would be an improvement over Pysyk and Weegar. In this deal, Edmonton adds two top 6 wingers, and Florida adds both short and long-term solutions on the right side. Florida frees up nearly 6 million dollars, while adding players that can contribute.

Trade 3: Andrej Sekera, Edmonton 2020 2nd to Buffalo for Marco Scandella

Scandella is not a favourite in Buffalo and is not being used appropriately. Sekera can come in and play sheltered minutes making Buffalo's right side truly complete, or play behind Ristolainen in the absence of Bogosian. The pick is to balance out the extra year and the extra salary with Sekera's deal.

Obviously this would not be the end of moves; the team would still be right against the cap without having resigned Khaira, Puljujarvi, Rattie, Chiasson or Petrovic... However, they would have effectively shed half of Lucic's salary, Russel and Sekera's deals, and added two top 6 wingers. They would need to free up some cap space to fill out their roster, but if they were able to move Reimer, they would have 14+ million in cap space free up in the 2020/2021 season AND have a top 5 consisting of McDavid/RNH/Hoffman/Huberdeau/Draisaitl, and a top 3 of Klefbom, Nurse, Larsson

interesting however you may have cured some of the forward depth issues you have traded away whatever depth on D (and I know it was not much to begin with) the Oilers had (a top 4 D in Russell, Edmonton's top D prospect, and Sekara who is an unknown)...which leaves you playing Klefbom, Nurse, Larsson, Manning, Benning, Bear and Jones

 

[ChaoticOrange]

just wow at suddenly Oiler crap has so much value all of a sudden,. Why does Lucic waive his NMC to go to LA? He burned that bridge. And the second deal is just silly. You are sending bread crumbs for a stud and why does Florida take the broken Russian, regardless of retention?

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