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Also the costs of the defendents, because that would be a very stupid lawsuit with zero perspective of success from what we know and no way they don't end up alao footing the bill.
Five members from Canada’s 2018 world junior team (Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote and Formenton) told to surrender to police, facing sexual assault charges
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This is not a courtroom lol. I learn towards the first. Remember she didn't bring this up, the press did.
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Anyone think the NHL forced the players to take an indefinite leave that way they don’t have to make a ruling on a suspension right now? Everyone’s contract is up soon but any chance the NHL does something with that or do they just not get resigned?
It's exactly what some famous guy did recently and it didn't work out for him!
I think the players just left and the NHL found out the same time we did, which is even worse.
Wow
That fifth estate 2 doc says there were 10-12 players in the hotel room at one point. WTF?
That fifth estate 2 doc says there were 10-12 players in the hotel room at one point. WTF?
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Amber Heard is a very specific case. She used her public platform to make public claims and that in itself puts her in a special spot regarding slander. Also, the slander case isn't in Canada for multiple reasons (slander cases in Canada are tough to win and the payouts are slim compared to the USA).
You can't just sue someone in Canada because they gave a testimony that paints you badly in a criminal case. Well you could, but it will get dismissed easily. In Canada, in rare cases, the Crown will press charges against a witness who they deem has made a false testimony in criminal court.
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We don't really know why the case was reopened. Was it the press and public outrage, or the alleged victim who found the strength to go through a potentially difficult process to get justice.
The case was dropped initially....
We need to have due process.
If in fact these guys did half of what is alleged, I'm all for a revamp of HC.
Abuse has no place in my world.
HC probably has to go. Given that this isn't the only case, it will happen again.
Junior hockey should be on its last warning. Not allowing 18-year-olds in the AHL is a big part of why it still exists.
Hockey Canada looks terrible, but the NCAA has an even worse track record than them. So, I'm not really sure what works as an alternative development path for North American talent.
lol, yeah thanks that's an article.. I'm talking about the court documents that everyone is referencing. Seems like you need a username for the court website.
As someone posted already
Official Site of the National Hockey League | NHL.com
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Not a single mention. And that is why it must be torn down.
How weak...chickenbleep...I hope the media goes nuclear on the NHL.
I've idolized the NHL through Hockey Night in Canada, going to many games, meeting my heros when I was young, teaching my kids about the history, spending a lot on merch, etc. For over 50 years this game has been poetic for me as a player, father, coach, and fan.
I'm pretty much finished thinking (dreaming?) anything positive about our hockey culture here, the ridiculous non transparency - and outright unlawful - actions from. Hockey Canada, and the blatant cover ups and looking away from the NHL.
I'll always watch, play, and love this sport. But these allegations, check that, maybe not just these allegations but everything else dirty from different organizations that these incidents are unveiling, have disgusted me so much that I wouldn't even be opposed to tearing down not only HC but the whole junior and professional systems if all that is said to be true actually is. A reset is needed.
"They wouldn't of released a statement about Dube going on mental health leave unless thats what they were told"
Told by whom? Dube's camp? And they just take the only player on there team that they know to be caught up in this scandal at his word? No questions? No inquiry? Bullshit
Michael McLeod? How so?
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In Mississauga at junior he was kind of one of those guys who was a party animal, always getting in trouble for those things. I heard rumors years ago, but he was always coming up for the wrong reasons.
I 1000 percent agree with you again.
But I think for many, basketball and football are knocking at the door. All it takes is another lockout...
We have to figure out something.
Why is it every other sport's "elite" compeition is within high schools, but not hockey?
I've heard mixed things. The staff generally liked him, at least until the end of his tenure there (Sean Day drove them absolutely insane). I have heard multiple times nightmare hockey parents (although, by that standard don't get them started on "assistant coach" Michael Nylander). I don't think anyone would have guessed this is where it would end up.
They did.
Don't feel bad. EVERY team owner and management knew all about the situation and who was involved for years. I'm an avid Oiler fan - currently shitting on the Flames for their ridiculous PR, but I can assure you that Edm, NYR, Colorado, Vegas, etc, etc, etc, would have had these players on their teams as easily as you guys have. This was NOT supposed to come out.
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The case where a UK court found that Depp can legally be referred to as a domestic abuser?
I would think that's more a Canada compared to the USA thing. High-school sports aren't supported or cared about to the same level in Canada as the States. Most Canadian kids really good at Basketball go to those joke prep-schools in the States to get scouted and play high-level AAU. I believe both travel baseball and travel soccer are the ways to get scouted for those sports here too.
Me neither, but I got a bad feeling when I first heard about this and his name was there on the roster. Kind of a shock for me too, but you never really know eh?
Fair enough. Not a fan of AAU either to be honest. Something has to change. We don't need Hockey Canada if this is the way they do things.
Seems like the criminal investigation got a boost in November right after HC completed its (unreleased) final report, which could possibly suggest that certain incriminating evidence such as witness statements not previously available to law enforcement were referenced in the report, or other facts in the report lead to law enforcement obtaining new incriminating evidence. At least, such has been my impression of what happened. But as you say, we really don't know and quite possibly will not know until the trial begins.
Report on 2018 Hockey Canada alleged sex assault not released amid appeal | Globalnews.ca
Shortly after a final report from an independent adjudication panel has been delivered to "all involved parties," a notice of appeal was filed, the organization said.
globalnews.ca
I would say in general we just have a problem with how sports organizations/high level youth athletes get covered for. I'm not sure high-schools or the NCAA would do a better job, especially if there is a profit incentive. I'm sure if people just looked at what has been covered up in power 5 conferences, people would collectively lose their minds. Hell, just look at Baylor which was supposed to be a prestigous religious private school, and look what they did to keep their football team on the field. I'm sure someone digging deep into powerhouse High-school football or basketball teams have horror stories.
Thanks. Just followed Ryan a bit before his pro career. Never saw it in him but obviously that means nothing about the brother!
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Within this case there is a discussion to be had about the repugnant hockey culture that Canada has bred in a lot of our youth.
A significant portion of the kids coming up now act like they are God’s gift to this earth more concerned about racking up their snap score than anything. Hell, it was well known that most of my hometowns WHL roster had another side piece in practically every city they play in. At least once a month someone’s girlfriend caught them on Tinder in the next town over. Most felt they were untouchable in school as well behaved like shit with minimal effort because they were for sure making the show.
Not one Canadian who has had an interaction with a Junior A player should be shocked.
Hard to believe that a sport that refers to female fans as puck-bunnies has a culture issue.
As a guy who grew up playing a lot of different sports, hockey included I can’t really think of one with a worse culture.
A significant portion of the kids coming up now act like they are God’s gift to this earth more concerned about racking up their snap score than anything. Hell, it was well known that most of my hometowns WHL roster had another side piece in practically every city they play in. At least once a month someone’s girlfriend caught them on Tinder in the next town over. Most felt they were untouchable in school as well behaved like shit with minimal effort because they were for sure making the show.
Not one Canadian who has had an interaction with a Junior A player should be shocked.
Hard to believe that a sport that refers to female fans as puck-bunnies has a culture issue.
As a guy who grew up playing a lot of different sports, hockey included I can’t really think of one with a worse culture.
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