Fittest players of all time?

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Apr 2, 2012
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Thread title is self-explanatory. However obviously a modern day fitness freak will be a lot more fit than someone from the 1950:s so try adjusting for era. These days Zdeno Chara has been lauded as a bit of a fitness freak. I´ve also heard stories about Gordie Howe´s strength.

But those two are also very talented hockey guys and big names. Are there more unknown players throughout history with amazing physical fitness? Everything goes:)
 
Gary Roberts is the standard. I’d argue the guy deserves a place in the HOF as a builder due to his high performance training techniques.
 
How are you defining "fit"?

A modern day fitness freak would be very poorly positioned to play 60 minutes straight. Today's training is tailored to the needs of today's game. In 1915, being "fit" meant endurance more than anything.

If you mean simply being muscular, Bobby Hull is probably going to win this running away. Gordie Howe and Eddie Shore also had he-man physiques, but Hull was close to a bodybuilder's physique while also being extremely fast and agile.
 
Rod 'The Bod' Brind'Amour and Chris Chelios come to mind as well as Big Z.

Gordie Howe apparently called Tim Horton the strongest player in hockey. Would think he would know.
 
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Rod Brind'amour, Chara (he does tour de france segment during is summer, had some crazy story about Chin-up for someone of that size and obviously the numbers of nhl minutes he did) and Chris Chelios (the old Chelios having conditioning lesson to rookies with bike in sauna challenge after a game stories and so on)

Edit: (funny that the exact same 3 than the poster above....)
 
How are you defining "fit"?

A modern day fitness freak would be very poorly positioned to play 60 minutes straight. Today's training is tailored to the needs of today's game. In 1915, being "fit" meant endurance more than anything.

If you mean simply being muscular, Bobby Hull is probably going to win this running away. Gordie Howe and Eddie Shore also had he-man physiques, but Hull was close to a bodybuilder's physique while also being extremely fast and agile.

And back then, they didn’t lift weights. They went and worked regular jobs. Like farming, or in Guy LaFleur’s case: construction.
 
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pavel bure was ridiculously fit. his soviet olympian dad, who went to three olympics and won four medals, and later was a strength and conditioning coach for multiple teams in the NHL, probably had been training him since he was a baby. my theory for why he and valeri both broke down so quickly is because possibly almost no kids have ever been trained as hard from as young of an age as those two. that can't be good for the longterm health of growing joints.

and from my understanding, the soviet training regime was built for maximum short term gain before they threw you away for the next young guy.

there's a famous story of when he arrived in vancouver for the first time and linden's like, this is the guy? because he was small with a skinny build and had the face of a saved by the bell character. but every year he blew away everyone else on the team in their strength and conditioning testing, including raw strength. imagine, that 5'10, 175 lb kid could lift more than odjick, momesso, babych, murzyn, linden, antoski, dirk, sandlak, and all those other gigantic pat quinn-era canucks.
 
Posting these obligatory pictures..;)

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Can't believe I already forgot 68

Remember the film of him running up and down arena stairs, reminded me of Walter Payton running hills. Incredible leg strength and fitness.
 
i have seen both sedins around town numerous times training for marathons.

one time i saw the silhouette of two guys jogging towards me in the distance, with exactly the same perfect form and in identical rhythm step for step. it was one of the weirdest things i'd ever seen. when they got closer it turned out to be henrik and daniel of course, and wearing identical jogging outfits of course. and i was like, duh, i should have guessed that.

it was like this but slower and with two of them—

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I don't know if there is a "modern" and "old school" version of this. Personally, while training in sports has arguably gotten better the truth is the average man in the 1950s and prior was stronger than the average man today. Probably has something to do with much more manual labour jobs back then, having to do more with your hands than today, not having the technology do things for you like before, etc. So if Gordie Howe in 1955 arm wrestles Rod BrindAmour in his prime, who wins? Hard to say, but it isn't as if players weren't fit back in Gordie's day either. You had 6 teams and even Rocket Richard as recent as the 1940s had a factory job in Montreal during the day in his playing days.

So anyway, just off the top of my head, here are the strongest players I can think of in NHL history as far as brute strength goes:

Gordie Howe, Bobby Hull, Tim Horton, Zdeno Chara, Rod BrindAmour, Eric Lindros, Clark Gillies

No specific order and honestly it is just off the top of my head when I think of brute strength.
 
Ray Bourque could supposedly go all out for a 60 second shift and his heartrate would be back to normal within 10 seconds. Heard this during a Flyers/Bruins game and coming from the Flyers broadcast team.

On that aspect Duncan Keith is apparently quite something and famously Gretzky VO2 max and recuperation did seem to be quite all time elite.
 
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Can't believe I already forgot 68

Remember the film of him running up and down arena stairs, reminded me of Walter Payton running hills. Incredible leg strength and fitness.


Yeah i just thought of him aswell. 1000 squats a day and working in his parents farm apparently.
 
The most talked about fitness fanatics are many of those already mentioned. Brind’Amour, Roberts, Chara and Chelios to name a few.

Many of the players who came to the NHL shortly after the Iron Curtain fell had great fitness levels and were used to grueling training regimes. Guys like Bure, Holik, Slegr, Jagr and Chara all had fathers who once were elite athletes themselves.

A relatively small guy like Aleksandr Semak was always in great shape and strong for his size. Martin St.Louis was small, but is a guy who I would rank among the fittest. Another relatively small guy, Daniel Briere used to train with Canadian World’s Strongest Man competitor Hugo Girard. Briere most likely went more for strength rather than pure fitness though.

Of course today it is more scientific than it was when guys like Gordie Howe or Bobby Hull played. Back then many of the players got their strength and fitness from working hard on farms during the summers. An underrated way to build up your strength. There are some legendary stories of "farm boy" strengths displayed by players from back in the days.

Then of course, many NHL’ers have really strong legs compared to other pro athletes.
Combining pure leg strength with some fitness. Crosby, Yzerman, Jagr, Gaborik, Bure, St.Louis etc, etc, they all had really strong legs.

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Here’s an interesting article on Chara from 1999. It's pretty amazing that more than 20 years later he is still slaying it in training camps.

Daily News, September 12, 1999
By ANTHONY McCARRON DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Islanders defenseman Zdeno Chara is such a fitness fanatic that sometimes, says Sean Donellan, the Isles' strength and conditioning coach, the staff has to ask Chara slow down during the summer. "We say, 'Take the day off," Donellan says of Chara's biking, weightlifting, running and wrestling-with-his-father regime. "He's out of control sometimes, but he just wants nothing more than to be a dominant player. The biggest thing about Z is his work ethic. He'll outwork anybody in the world." Chara is the fittest player in the Isles' training camp and he proved it early on in Lake Placid.

Donellan gave all the players an aerobic capacity test that is designed to be so gut-busting that even professional athletes are expected to fail. Chara passed, along with goalie prospect Stephen Valiquette. They were the only two of the 49 players in camp to pass. "It's a 30-minute bike ride without any chance to recover," Donellan says. "We didn't think anyone would finish it. It's not a knock on the other guys for not finishing, it's more of an indication of Z's fitness that he did." Chara, who is 246 pounds, has a mere 8.5 body fat. "That's unheard of for a guy his size," Donellan says. "It's fantastic, he's a rock." Chara also finished in the top 10 of every fitness test in camp, Donellan says. At 6-9, the 22-year-old Chara is the tallest player in NHL history.

Opposing players gape at him when they see him on skates a towering 7-feet or so. And they're left gasping when Chara crunches them against the boards with a huge check. "People think he's skinny, but then guys run into him and bounce off," Donellan says. Chara got interested in fitness from watching his father, Zdenek, who wrestled for Czechoslovakia in the 1976 Olympics in Montreal. "He was always working out and I was watching," Chara says. "After a while, I started." Last summer, Chara trained with pro cyclists at home in Slovakia, lifted weights, ran sprints and stairs and wrestled his father, who is 49. "He still wrestles," Chara says. "He's really strong. He's been doing it his whole life, so for him, it's nothing to wrestle me. For me, it's a great workout. You use your whole body."

Chara says he managed to take some days off, too. "I've pushed myself," he says. "That's what happens when you're a young guy and you want to make the team so bad. I've learned. As you get more experience, you know it's important to get a rest. Sometimes two days off is better than two weeks of workouts. My body is my book. I read my own body and it tells me." The confidence he gets from his conditioning has helped Chara develop into one of the Isles' top four defensemen and one of the team's brightest prospects.

At training camp last year, he "had a deer-in-the-headlights look for three weeks and we had to send him down," GM Mike Milbury says. "He's much more confident now." "Last year, I put too much pressure on myself in camp," Chara says. "I was nervous, wishing I'd make the team." He was eventually recalled from the minors and played 59 games for the Isles, notching two goals and six assists and 83 penalty minutes. "Now, I know what to expect, I know what to do," Chara says. "Plus, I've learned from the older guys." And from his workouts.
 
Ray Bourque could supposedly go all out for a 60 second shift and his heartrate would be back to normal within 10 seconds. Heard this during a Flyers/Bruins game and coming from the Flyers broadcast team.

that's superhuman. reminds me of howe, i can't remember what exactly it was but in one of the howe threads someone pointed out something about him physically that was flat out beyond all other humans. but i have no memory of what that thing was.
 
... 68... running up and down arena stairs,... Incredible leg strength and fitness.
In terms of leg strength and fitness:

1. Nobody in San Jose during the season ran the bike as long as Marleau did. Players have said he's always on it.

2. Marleau shows up to training camp fully fit each year and has an offensive jolt the first month as others aren't in shape yet.

3. How the heck do you think the 40 year old could still fly? Marleau takes two or three powerful strides and coasts up ice at the speed of some flailing-arm others.

In terms of FITNESS, Marleau is elite.

Here is a then 38-year-old Marleau bracing his legs to easily handle a 6'4 220 lbs. hit-loving Mark Stone:


And Ryan Kesler as a Canuck embarrassed himself trying to check Marleau into the boards. Google it.
 
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Imaging doing this but missing it and busting your knees on the sharp edge of the pool and coming to training camp crippled. And when the staff/management asked you what happened you're like "yeaahh, I trained some serious cross country running in the woods and fell on a big bad rock.... :eyeroll:"
 


Imaging doing this but missing it and busting your knees on the sharp edge of the pool and coming to training camp crippled. And when the staff/management asked you what happened you're like "yeaahh, I trained some serious cross country running in the woods and fell on a big bad rock.... :eyeroll:"

Grabner is seriously jacked.

I remember looking at his Instagram a while ago and he did seem like a fitness freak, which surprised me because his name is never brought up when it comes to these things.
 

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