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Bedard lousy on draws...Martine will not help as hos RW for draws(31.6% latest look at ohl stats..though he does not take a lot of draes).
On the other hand Michael Misa is good at draws 54.7% latest look at OHL stats..
Ryan Greene is 56.1% on draws according to latest NCAA stats...Donenic James is better at 61.8% on draws latest look)
Doubt Greene or James will play Center for the Hawks ...maybe wingers taking draws?
I've Moorestown.5% on draws per NCAA stats this season..but don't he pkays C on top 2 lines for Hawks.
I could not find updated faceoff stats for Sascha Boivert but I think I saw he was only at 44.9% almost a month ago..
In any case Misa may be a priority for a top 2 line C talent with sone decent size +goodon draws andvof course top level scoring and after-burner speed...checks KD's skating box...elite speed.
Martinecwill not help Bedard kinevon draws...not his thing...But where he excels beyond his own scoringvskilks ,sozexand reach is dominating puck batyleson the boards and awin anyboartvofvthevice plus uncanny ability to steal pucks Fter closing on his cjeck...this ability upgrades possession opportunities from transitions from d-zobecand neutral zone and it prolongs possession tome in thevo-zone ..Thatcabukitycwiuld help Bedard enoirnouslyvto get morevo-zobevtone to fire puckscat the opponent goal or to go in clearer from neutral zone pages from Martone after he wins a puck rattle or a loosevpuck retrieval.
On the other hand Misa can drive line 2 with his speed and help by wining draws..
So it may depend whether we draftcat #2or#2asxto which we eother choose or whoch remains on the board for us..
Of course if we draft at #3and both Martone and Misa off the bo.ard then the forward solutions off the table andv nstead we lock up the 4th of our future 4core D corps..Mathew Schaefer solves 1LD with elite skating and ability to control the pace ..big minutes.. controls the game ..
In any of these 3 we get 1 solution..but we need all 3 solutions..
The Center forca top 2 line with good size and
scoring with the bonus of can wind draws, and Big Winger/Scorer who could help Bedard in a lot of ways but not on draws...or the 1KD who can control the game giving bg Hawks a to p 4 D corps that could be exceptional...1LD Schaefer,2LD Vlasic and 2 top Rd's in Rinzel and Levshunov...forcing $9.5 into reduced minutes R
as a 3 RD =5th dman only.
That all coukd materialize by 26/27 season if we drafted Schaefer.
But we still would not have the elite top line winger or elite top 2 line C who can wineries (because Bedard socks at it).
But you could cover line one for Bedard as 1 C if James (taking draws() and Martone were his wingers.
That leaves the 2026 draft to getca 1LD like Schaefer or a top linev1or linec2 C with decent size,top skating,top scoring and goidvon draws to drive the other top 2vlibecafter Bedatd's line..whichever you want to designate as kinec2 or line.2.
The pint is Hawks still need 3 positions solving 3 issues ..Martone,Misa and Schaefer all solve 1 of the 3 positional issues...But we can only (if we draft top 3) get only 1 ofvtgex3 issues solved this draft
..the other 2 will still need to wait to fill from the 2026 and 2027 drafts.
You cannot play 2 small Centers..as 1C and 2C ..especially if both are not great on draws..
Bedard as 1C and Nazar as 2C isxa no go..
One of them must move to wing
Lw James (thing draws) ,Bedard as C and Martone works as a line so to does a line ofJames /Nazar /Martone
...but if they are with Nazar then you still have the the draws and defebsive issues with Bedard for his line .
If inateadxwe drafted Misa we get a C solution with sone size,speed,scorkbg ,line driving and goid on draws..could be a 1C ...making Bedard either 2C or 1RW or2RW ..
If we draft Schaefer we solve the final piece to secure a great top 4 D ..but we would still be missibg those 2 forwards solutions at C and W
We cannot solve all this in just the 2025draft .Nedd 2 more drafts in 2026 and 2027 to get the missing positions filled correctly.
On the other hand Michael Misa is good at draws 54.7% latest look at OHL stats..
Ryan Greene is 56.1% on draws according to latest NCAA stats...Donenic James is better at 61.8% on draws latest look)
Doubt Greene or James will play Center for the Hawks ...maybe wingers taking draws?
I've Moorestown.5% on draws per NCAA stats this season..but don't he pkays C on top 2 lines for Hawks.
I could not find updated faceoff stats for Sascha Boivert but I think I saw he was only at 44.9% almost a month ago..
In any case Misa may be a priority for a top 2 line C talent with sone decent size +goodon draws andvof course top level scoring and after-burner speed...checks KD's skating box...elite speed.
Martinecwill not help Bedard kinevon draws...not his thing...But where he excels beyond his own scoringvskilks ,sozexand reach is dominating puck batyleson the boards and awin anyboartvofvthevice plus uncanny ability to steal pucks Fter closing on his cjeck...this ability upgrades possession opportunities from transitions from d-zobecand neutral zone and it prolongs possession tome in thevo-zone ..Thatcabukitycwiuld help Bedard enoirnouslyvto get morevo-zobevtone to fire puckscat the opponent goal or to go in clearer from neutral zone pages from Martone after he wins a puck rattle or a loosevpuck retrieval.
On the other hand Misa can drive line 2 with his speed and help by wining draws..
So it may depend whether we draftcat #2or#2asxto which we eother choose or whoch remains on the board for us..
Of course if we draft at #3and both Martone and Misa off the bo.ard then the forward solutions off the table andv nstead we lock up the 4th of our future 4core D corps..Mathew Schaefer solves 1LD with elite skating and ability to control the pace ..big minutes.. controls the game ..
In any of these 3 we get 1 solution..but we need all 3 solutions..
The Center forca top 2 line with good size and
scoring with the bonus of can wind draws, and Big Winger/Scorer who could help Bedard in a lot of ways but not on draws...or the 1KD who can control the game giving bg Hawks a to p 4 D corps that could be exceptional...1LD Schaefer,2LD Vlasic and 2 top Rd's in Rinzel and Levshunov...forcing $9.5 into reduced minutes R
as a 3 RD =5th dman only.
That all coukd materialize by 26/27 season if we drafted Schaefer.
But we still would not have the elite top line winger or elite top 2 line C who can wineries (because Bedard socks at it).
But you could cover line one for Bedard as 1 C if James (taking draws() and Martone were his wingers.
That leaves the 2026 draft to getca 1LD like Schaefer or a top linev1or linec2 C with decent size,top skating,top scoring and goidvon draws to drive the other top 2vlibecafter Bedatd's line..whichever you want to designate as kinec2 or line.2.
The pint is Hawks still need 3 positions solving 3 issues ..Martone,Misa and Schaefer all solve 1 of the 3 positional issues...But we can only (if we draft top 3) get only 1 ofvtgex3 issues solved this draft
..the other 2 will still need to wait to fill from the 2026 and 2027 drafts.
You cannot play 2 small Centers..as 1C and 2C ..especially if both are not great on draws..
Bedard as 1C and Nazar as 2C isxa no go..
One of them must move to wing
Lw James (thing draws) ,Bedard as C and Martone works as a line so to does a line ofJames /Nazar /Martone
...but if they are with Nazar then you still have the the draws and defebsive issues with Bedard for his line .
If inateadxwe drafted Misa we get a C solution with sone size,speed,scorkbg ,line driving and goid on draws..could be a 1C ...making Bedard either 2C or 1RW or2RW ..
If we draft Schaefer we solve the final piece to secure a great top 4 D ..but we would still be missibg those 2 forwards solutions at C and W
We cannot solve all this in just the 2025draft .Nedd 2 more drafts in 2026 and 2027 to get the missing positions filled correctly.
ColbyChaos
I am a made up country
Bennett is more of a #3 C on a playoff/contender level team. At the right price, maybe as a Tuevo/Bertuzzi placeholder / trying to be more competitive signing where he plays 2C until a prospect hopefully pushes him down the lineup.
Dach - Nazar - Slaggert. Did anyone watch the Hogs in NHL network tonight?
RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
Bennett has been the 2C of a team that won a Stanley Cup, went to another Stanley Cup, and won a Presidents Trophy. He’s also currently the 2C on a top-10 team in the league, and was just named to a Canadian national team alongside some of the best forwards in the game.
I get being a bit weary of whether he’s a good fit for Chicago now, but he’s definitely more than a 3C on playoff/contender level team.
MicronMega
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JT Miller has asked for a trade would you:
Miller, 2025 2nd RD pick
for
Bertuzzi and Donato, 2025 TOR 1st and 2026 CHI 1st
Miller gives you a true #1 C. VAN gets two Tochhet type players
Miller, 2025 2nd RD pick
for
Bertuzzi and Donato, 2025 TOR 1st and 2026 CHI 1st
Miller gives you a true #1 C. VAN gets two Tochhet type players
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i wouldn't move the '26 first. everything else is on table except bedard, vlasic, nazar, lev, or rinzel.
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Lundell gets more TOI and takes more faceoffs (ever so slightly) than Bennett starting during the Cup run and carrying over into this season so far. I would say he is more of a 2A/2B with Lundell in Florida at this point. I guess I am more thinking about a potential Bennett fit in Chicago if he is signed to a 6-7 year UFA deal as a 29 year old this coming Summer. He would certainly start out as the 2C (hell maybe the 1C if Bedard can't start winning faceoffs at better then his current 30%), but in 2 or 3 years when (hopefully) the Hawks turn the corner to a playoff team and hopefully a contender, I'm thinking Bennett would need to be a 3C as a 31/32 year old on a legit Cup contender (or have some pretty filthy wing(s) on that 2nd line.
Hawkaholic
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Not interested. He'll be 32 at the start of next year, not trading futures for a guy with less than a handful of impactful years left.
As an outside fan looking in. Bedard does look like a guy who wants to be the best in the world. It's not something I see in Slafkovsky as a Habs fan for a first overall.
Add Bedard to the team a decade ago ? Does he play with Toews on tough matchups or on the 2nd line like Kane would do?
Add Bedard to the team a decade ago ? Does he play with Toews on tough matchups or on the 2nd line like Kane would do?
