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JKG33

JKG33

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Oct 31, 2009
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First off, my apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere in one of the many other threads. However I did a search and couldn't find any recent topics dedicated to the goalie coach.

Anyway, this guys gotta go. How Briere even landed an NHL goalie coaching job in the first place really blows my mind. He was a Jr. A goalie coach previously, and save for one year of coaching Cam Talbot in Alabama (NCAA), had never worked with any other NHL caliber goalie. I have nothing against the NAHL, its a great feeder league for the NCAA. However any highly skilled player thats going the college route is probably in the USHL or BCHL or AJHL. None of the goalies Briere coached at the junior level went on to the NHL, which is not what you'd expect from a goalie coach that made the giant leap from the NAHL directly to the NHL. Have a look at his EP page yourself: Steve Briere at eliteprospects.com

Now its clear Andersen came from a Ducks team that knew what they were doing with goalies. He showed up and was fantastic his first couple seasons with the Leafs. Then his play slowly went down the drain. He left for Carolina and now has become a Vezina contender. Funny how that works.

Enter Jack Campbell. Here's a guy who had all the talent in the world in juniors, with a work ethic to back it up. He has some mental fragility issues sure, but he's an extremely talented and capable goalie. His career derailed under the care of the Dallas Stars, and was rebuilt by Ranford and Imoo in LA. (But oh no we can't have Imoo around, he liked some mean tweets. Much thanks to Dubas for saving our goalies from such a terrible monster and sticking with Briere).

If you want to see what proper goalie development looks like, look no further than the Kings organization. Ranford and Imoo can be credited with developing a league high 6 NHL goalies (Quick, Bernier, Jones, Kuemper, Campbell, Petersen), and Campbell has given them lots of credit for his resurgence.

The damage is been done to Campbell, who's game is dropping off much like Andersen's did under Briere's coaching. All the good work done by LA to rebuild Campbell is slowly being undone.

Back to Briere. Here's a guy thats ruined at least two NHL goalies in Andersen and Campbell, who's to say what he's done to some of the prospects like Woll and Scott yet too. I ask again how did he even get hired in the first place, let alone stay with the team for 7 years and counting? Most NHL goalie coaches get hired either from other NHL teams or after working their way up with successful stints in either the AHL or CHL. But not our man Briere.

If Briere's professional track record isn't enough, let me offer a personal anecdote. I was a Jr A goalie (As an aside, I actually played for the junior team in Idaho when Campbell got sent down to the ECHL team, so I've met him a few times and got to see him practice. He's a phenomenal dude but I'm sure most of you already knew that). Being from Winnipeg, I went to one of Briere's camps when I was younger. His style of teaching didn't mesh well with me. From the abundance of time spent on the mental side (Where if you didn't think the game just like him, you were wrong) to his dictator style of coaching, it just wasn't for me. At the NHL (and even junior level) your job as a goalie coach isn't to completely rebuild a goalie (in most cases at least), its to simply fine tune their game. These goalies didn't make it to that level only to be wrong the whole time. But yet he insists on making the guys do it his way, which to put it simply, is complete shit.

Thats enough of a rant for now. I'll leave you all with one last gem, that I'm sure has been posted here before. But for those who haven't yet seen it, I give you Briere's goalie "business" plan. Enjoy.

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JKG33 said:
I was a Jr A goalie (As an aside, I actually played for the junior team in Idaho when Campbell got sent down to the ECHL team, so I've met him a few times and got to see him practice.
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Thanks for the breakdown. Agree with this analysis. It was one thing when the goalies were taking 50+ shots every night in the Bernier and Reimer days, burnout is understandable in those circumstances, but now there is actually a capable team defense and some inexcusably poor goaltending.
 
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new goalie coach , sure why not , it's not like Briere is has accomplished anything here
 
JKG33 said:
But oh no we can't have Imoo around, he liked some mean tweets.
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Whether or not Briere is a good coach or not, this statement reeks of complete bullshit. Imoo didn't "like some mean tweets"...

fan backlash to his hiring was swift with many pointing to Imoo's Twitter feed that featured favourites and retweets of transphobic hate speech, anti-vaccine sentiments and support for the January 6 Capitol Hill insurrection. - Imoo will not join Marlies - TSN.ca
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But it's nice to know winning is more important to you than a person being an asshole. And what a perfect year to drag this up again, after the Blackhawks scandal...
 
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Lightsol said:
Whether or not Briere is a good coach or not, this statement reeks of complete bullshit. Imoo didn't "like some mean tweets"...



But it's nice to know winning is more important to you than a person being an asshole. And what a perfect year to drag this up again, after the Blackhawks scandal...
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... so he liked mean tweets. Who cares?

Ask Campbell if Imoo is a bad guy, you know, someone who's worked with and knows the guy personally. I'd take his opinion over some jackass on the internet
 
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Lightsol said:
Whether or not Briere is a good coach or not, this statement reeks of complete bullshit. Imoo didn't "like some mean tweets"...



But it's nice to know winning is more important to you than a person being an asshole. And what a perfect year to drag this up again, after the Blackhawks scandal...
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Ya I was liking the post until that.

If Briere is the issue thats one thing. There has to be someone out there that's on Imoo's level of GC that also isn't a person that can stain the organization with their hire. Plus his "apology" or explanation or whatever you wanna call it was just trash garbage you'd expect from a guy like that.
 
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Morgs said:
Ya I was liking the post until that.

If Briere is the issue thats one thing. There has to be someone out there that's on Imoo's level of GC that also isn't a person that can stain the organization with their hire. Plus his "apology" or explanation or whatever you wanna call it was just trash garbage you'd expect from a guy like that.
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He said nothing wrong, it just didn't align with the popular political opinion.

The stud goalie has a great relationship with that coach. You make it happen and enjoy the success they'd bring
 
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I didn't have anything of substance to make a thread out of it, but this was pretty much the first thought I had after watching Campbell get yanked last game.
 
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He said nothing wrong, it just didn't align with the popular political opinion.

The stud goalie has a great relationship with that coach. You make it happen and enjoy the success they'd bring
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I mean even if you dont believe he said anything wrong (his retweets and likes say differently), he's still an asshole and goes against policies that any organization should have. A goalie coach isn't worth alienating a fanbase, and having those types of guys in hockey just continue reinforcing the toxic environment that hockey currently has.

But again, I have no issue firing Briere if he's an issue. How about we don't get a guy who outright supports far right movements and hateful of LGBTQ+ people though?
 
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Morgs said:
I mean even if you dont believe he said anything wrong (his retweets and likes say differently), he's still an asshole and goes against policies that any organization should have.

A goalie coach isn't worth alienating a fanbase, and having those types of guys in hockey just continue reinforcing the toxic environment that hockey currently has.
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Who cares about a whiny minority of the fan base? I care about my team winning cups.

Hockey isn't any more toxic than anywhere else
 
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Who cares about a whiny minority of the fan base? I care about my team winning cups.

Hockey isn't any more toxic than anywhere else
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I mean, these movements treat minorities and LGBTQ+ people like they're lesser than people. Saying they're a "whiney minority" of the fanbase is kinda showing your colours.

Personally it's hard for me to support bad people. I guess for some they don't care as long as they see hitzzzzz
 
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Lightsol said:
Think the Blackhawks organization feels this way right now? I mean, most of their upper management just got fired, but hey, they won two Cups!
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I highly doubt they care. Look at Wrtiz reaction a couple weeks ago. It's all catering to public opinion

They're not sorry it happened, they're sorry the fans care
 
Morgs said:
I mean, these movements treat minorities and LGBTQ+ people like they're lesser than people. Saying they're a "whiney minority" of the fanbase is kinda showing your colours.

Personally it's hard for me to support bad people. I guess for some they don't care as long as they see hitzzzzz
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Here here !!!!!
I’m right next to you brothas and sisters whom ever your are , peace and love to all ….
 
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