Fire Luke Richardson

[wladyslaw]

Here's a perfect example of poor coaching on the power play. Here was the #1 PP last game:

Seth Jones - R
Connor Bedard- R
Tyler Johnson - R
Taylor Raddysh - R
Philip Kurashev - L

So four right handed shots. So all of your one timers are going to come from right to left. Where is your best player playing? On the left. Bedard has only one player he can setup for a one timer on the whole ice. He's not a one-time shooter, so camping him out at the top left circle is clownshoes. If you're going to have FOUR RH shots on the PP(which is a problem in and of itself), you can't operate off the left wall. It has to be the right side. As it stands, it's ridiculously easy to defend that setup and personnel. You shade Bedard, take away the cross-ice to Kurashev, and don't even worry about Seth Jones, because he's never in a position to take a one timer. He's never a shooting option, BY THE VERY DESIGN of the power play.

Bedard operating on the right side opens up THREE options that aren't there with the current setup. The low to high one timer from Jones. Raddysh or Johnson leaking into the slot for the mid-ice shooting option. Raddysh or Johnson cross-ice. Kurashev can operate in the right side bumper for cross-crease options.

This is power play 101, and the fact that people can argue coaching isn't a huge problem, when the entire DESIGN of the PP dooms it to fail, is f***ing idiotic.

WTBS-- the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over/over...and expecting different results. I agree there is so Little Skill/ability under pressure on this PP... Hoss/TT 2 completely different players-- Hard to pressure... one beats u man/man... TT beats- u w Uber quick decisions

CRAZY idea-- is to put Bedard in Higher than normal Bumper area... Yes- I know he isn't the Biggest guy... but realize-- he is MOST accurate sniper/release... and Would definitely cause LESS pressuring on the Perimeter Versus are Less than skilled players- who can't make quick/skill plays

Might by them more time and space to create other shooting/passing lanes AND sniper release from 98 in middle



At least it SOMETHING different to try... cause IT AIN'T WORKING--as is

 

[hockeydoug]

I would like to see KD get a firing under his belt if he thinks the decision to hire Richardson was his own mistake, but otherwise, not sure it matters this year. Maybe dump one of the helpers. KD will have some rough decisions ahead, this may be an opportunity to get some experience with the PR side and managing change when it doesn't really change the the big picture.

On the coach, why did Luke abandon the forecheck again, with this roster, in the peg on saturday?

He got way too much of a free pass last year but I'm not sure firing him changes anything for the better either.

The only questions that matter are how Richardson and the staff impact Bedard compared to any other replacements.

It would be nice to see them be ready to play for 5 or 6 games in a row for a change though.

 

[Pez68]

I would like to see KD get a firing under his belt if he thinks the decision to hire Richardson was his own mistake, but otherwise, not sure it matters this year. Maybe dump one of the helpers. KD will have some rough decisions ahead, this may be an opportunity to get some experience with the PR side and managing change when it doesn't really change the the big picture.

On the coach, why did Luke abandon the forecheck again, with this roster, in the peg on saturday?

He got way too much of a free pass last year but I'm not sure firing him changes anything for the better either.

The only questions that matter are how Richardson and the staff impact Bedard compared to any other replacements.

It would be nice to see them be ready to play for 5 or 6 games in a row for a change though.

The first period struggles are definitely an underrated issue. They are constantly playing from behind, because they come out flat and uninspired.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

I would love to be wrong about Luke. I would love to eat shit about this if Luke all of the sudden started making better decisions. I’m always cheering for the Hawks success and if Luke could bring the Hawks that success, then please make me look like a fool.

I just don’t see it though because I’m watching the games and there’s a lot of stupidity occurring on the ice. Where some of us seem to disagree is whether it’s due to lack of talent or the coaching sucks. I don’t think coaches get that much better, they seem to be stuck in their ways. If that’s the case, Luke will go sooner rather than later, and hopefully it doesn’t damage the team beyond repair.

 

[ClydeLee]

I would love to be wrong about Luke. I would love to eat shit about this if Luke all of the sudden started making better decisions. I’m always cheering for the Hawks success and if Luke could bring the Hawks that success, then please make me look like a fool.

I just don’t see it though because I’m watching the games and there’s a lot of stupidity occurring on the ice. Where some of us seem to disagree is whether it’s due to lack of talent or the coaching sucks. I don’t think coaches get that much better, they seem to be stuck in their ways. If that’s the case, Luke will go sooner rather than later, and hopefully it doesn’t damage the team beyond repair.

You don't think coaches get better over time? Where are you coming from with these thoughts? More often coaches have more success in 2nd/3rd stints. That's so in hockey, football, etc. (The nhl is just weird where guys get 5th and 6th jobs)

I highly doubt Richardain will be here when thr team has success but coaches that last that long. But even with the spirit of scotty Bowman putting all its energy into coaching this team, it would be bad still. Next year they will be bad still. The year after that they will want to be good, but probably be bad still. This is what happens when you tank, you hope your sure thing draft picks hit, other trades and picks do, and you don't squander capspace with longterm risks like Buffalo, Oilers, & Toronto did too quickly. But I'm sure LuRich will be gone then.

 

[hockeydoug]

2020 article on coaching longevity

I'm not sure where the average is at now.

Do designated tank captains get longer or shorter leashes than a coach in a more regular competitive assignment?

 

[MarotteMarauder]

2020 article on coaching longevity

I'm not sure where the average is at now.

Do designated tank captains get longer or shorter leashes than a coach in a more regular competitive assignment?

And way too often they get recycled into other coaching positions.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

This feels pertinent in this thread.

 

[hockeydoug]

This feels pertinent in this thread.

I wasn't feeling quite as bad about coaching before seeing this number.
Okay so now I'm really confused about all those times Luke abandoned the forecheck
That's one hell of a lead they've built up.

 

[MicronMega]

Is there a younger D core in the league?

Jones-29
Murphy-30
Korchinski-19
Kaiser-21
Phillips-22
Vlasic-22
Tinordi-31
Zaitsev-32
Crevier-22

 

[Hawkaholic]

I'm not sure why anyone should be surprised at the team being at the bottom of the league in pretty much any stat that they track. We have a handful of players who would be on a playoff team regularly, most on the bottom 6 of legit teams. Half of our D is rookies, and our 3 vet Dmen are pretty much garbage as a whole.

It might be the least talented team iced in the NHL in a long time, after losing Hall, Perry and AA.

 

[Pez68]

This feels pertinent in this thread.

Forwards don't cover for the D, and the defensemen make stupid pinches they shouldnt make. Looks like one of my beer league teams....

 

[Backyard Hockey]

This thread gonna get some traction after tonite’s coaching display of genius

 

[HagelsBagels]

I'm not sure why anyone should be surprised at the team being at the bottom of the league in pretty much any stat that they track. We have a handful of players who would be on a playoff team regularly, most on the bottom 6 of legit teams. Half of our D is rookies, and our 3 vet Dmen are pretty much garbage as a whole.

It might be the least talented team iced in the NHL in a long time, after losing Hall, Perry and AA.

The losses are fine, it's how unprepared they look most nights. They're getting boatraced by Columbus, Minnesota, and other bad teams

 

[Pez68]

Connor Bedard has 4 points in 9 games at home. He has 16 points in 14 games on the road. What? Shouldn't he be feasting on matchups at home?

 

[Bubba88]

They are trying, they just aren't any better.

I've seen enough bad teams. I've seen the bad teams that try and those who are not. If you are lacking that much talent compared to others you can't expect more. They will have a stretch with some PP goals.

LuRich is the tank comander, nothing else. As soon as they are ready for the POs we'll see a different coach. I think this all was expected?

 

[wladyslaw]

Connor Bedard has 4 points in 9 games at home. He has 16 points in 14 games on the road. What? Shouldn't he be feasting on matchups at home?

I guess the "Tank commander is better than Bedard" at his Job!!!

 

[MarotteMarauder]

I'm not sure why anyone should be surprised at the team being at the bottom of the league in pretty much any stat that they track. We have a handful of players who would be on a playoff team regularly, most on the bottom 6 of legit teams. Half of our D is rookies, and our 3 vet Dmen are pretty much garbage as a whole.

It might be the least talented team iced in the NHL in a long time, after losing Hall, Perry and AA.

There is no structure, there is no plan, there is no there there (behind bench)

 

[Hawkaholic]

The losses are fine, it's how unprepared they look most nights. They're getting boatraced by Columbus, Minnesota, and other bad teams

Columbus was the night of Perry. Minnesota isn't a bad team at all.

They are an absolutely terrible team. Every team in the league has better players on there team. The start to the year was a mirage, this team is god awful, even with the best coach in the world behind the bench.

There is no structure, there is no plan, there is no there there (behind bench)

There is no talent.

 

[TLEH]

Giving up the most odd man rushes in the league doesn't have that much to do with talent. That has to do with structure. SJ is right there with us and they are 11 on the list. Also us vs even 29 and 28 is one more per game.

Also feels like we get no rush chances either.

 

[kmwtrucks]

Im more of fan then coach but one thing we do a bit more then most teams is stretch pass from d and long passes like that were you are facing toward your goal never seem to work. I feel like the d needs to skate it more out and then pass. IE get the other D moving back a little and getting the forwards moving toward the other teams goal.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Giving up the most odd man rushes in the league doesn't have that much to do with talent. That has to do with structure. SJ is right there with us and they are 11 on the list. Also us vs even 29 and 28 is one more per game.

Also feels like we get no rush chances either.

It has more to do with the lack of experience from our Dmen, and definitely to do with talent. When to pinch, when not to, where to pass the puck, etc. Not saying the structure isn't lacking, but the combination of both is a bad recipe.

 

[MicronMega]

3rd Liner-Rookie Star-3rd Liner
3rd Liner-AHLer-3rd Liner
3rd Line Veteran-3rd Liner-AHLer
Rookie-3rd Liner-AHLer
4th Liner-AHLer

Rookie-#2-3 D
Rookie- 4-5 D
5-7 D - 5-7 D
Rookie

Rookie Goalie/Veteran Goalie

What would you expect from a team like this in the NHL? Because that is basically the line up vs Nashville. They are not very good, maybe lower the expectations a bit?

Beauvillier Bedard Kurashev
Johnson Guttman Raddysh
Foligno Dickinson Anderson
Reichel Donato Entwistle
Katchouk Johnson

Vlasic Jones
Korchinski Murphy
Tinrodi Zaitsev
Crevier

Soderblom/Mrazek

 

[Hockeyman1962]

I would like to see KD get a firing under his belt if he thinks the decision to hire Richardson was his own mistake, but otherwise, not sure it matters this year. Maybe dump one of the helpers. KD will have some rough decisions ahead, this may be an opportunity to get some experience with the PR side and managing change when it doesn't really change the the big picture.

On the coach, why did Luke abandon the forecheck again, with this roster, in the peg on saturday?

He got way too much of a free pass last year but I'm not sure firing him changes anything for the better either.

The only questions that matter are how Richardson and the staff impact Bedard compared to any other replacements.

It would be nice to see them be ready to play for 5 or 6 games in a row for a change though.

the problem is the organization only cares about bedard could care less about the rest of the players and they know it and are playing like it they are saying screw you to the coaches and general manager after all what has luke richardson ever won

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Stopped reading after "losing is fine"