Filip Zadina, "3 years" and 176 pro games later, where is he at atm?

[SEALBound]

Busty McBusterton from Buston, Bustachusetts

He'll get there eventually. Give him time.

 

[TheMule93]

Hes freaking awesome. Super shifty and datsyukian out there, defensively too.

Out right now because of covid protocol

 

[tarheelhockey]

I could be misremembering, but I think that was mostly just Habs fans who wanted Svechnikov.

That's correct. Svechnikov was a clear-cut #2 pick in the same way Eichel and Laine were. Those threads were just pure wishful-thinking speculation by fans looking for a narrative where Carolina would pass on Svechnikov.

This thread reminds me how pissed off I was when Zadina got headshotted at the Traverse tournament. Columbus was taking the approach of hitting everything in sight and it climaxed in someone taking a high run at Zadina "because it's his chance to get management's attention". That guy's now a non-contract ECHL'er.

 

[OscarsCards]

Yo what's up!!! I calculated 178GP!!!

 

[dss97]

Ironically , Holland wanted Bouchard but couldn’t pass on a dropping Zadina. Holland now in Edmonton with Bouchard who can’t get into the lineup even though Edmonton has one of the weakest Defence in the league.

He’s injured...

 

[jfhabs]

lol.

Prime or ‘Pre suckage’ Toews was a Top5 center...

‘Suckage Toews’ was still a Top20 center, Kotkaniemi was never going to hit either level

He's only 6 months older than Kakko. His top end potential absolutely is top 20 center.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

He's only 6 months older than Kakko. His top end potential absolutely is top 20 center.

Yeah not seeing that as likely.

 

[Ezekial]

That's correct. Svechnikov was a clear-cut #2 pick in the same way Eichel and Laine were. Those threads were just pure wishful-thinking speculation by fans looking for a narrative where Carolina would pass on Svechnikov.

This thread reminds me how pissed off I was when Zadina got headshotted at the Traverse tournament. Columbus was taking the approach of hitting everything in sight and it climaxed in someone taking a high run at Zadina "because it's his chance to get management's attention". That guy's now a non-contract ECHL'er.

That whole tourney was bullshit. Columbus brought a ton of plugs like that guy and and played like assholes. They won the tourney iirc.

 

[DaPhazz]

lol.

Prime or ‘Pre suckage’ Toews was a Top5 center...

‘Suckage Toews’ was still a Top20 center, Kotkaniemi was never going to hit either level

Kotkaniemi is better at 20 years old than Toews is now, what's the point?

 

[Ezekial]

Kotkaniemi is better at 20 years old than Toews is now, what's the point?

And Jonathan Toews at 19 had 54 points in 64 games. Kotkaniemi has 47 in 122 so far in his career.

 

[DaPhazz]

I will forever thank Detroit for handing Vancouver a generational defenceman.

All I saw in games against Mtl is an offense driven defenseman making a lot's of mistakes. Calm the tits, Zadina is still a blue chip.

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Kotkaniemi is better at 20 years old than Toews is now, what's the point?

Better at what aspect of the game, exactly?

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Kotkaniemi is better at 20 years old than Toews is now, what's the point?

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Better at what aspect of the game, exactly?

Playing this season

Stupid Wings should have taken a Finn instead. At least then they’d suck but they’d be better if given a chance!!

 

[DaPhazz]

And Jonathan Toews at 19 had 54 points in 64 games. Kotkaniemi has 47 in 122 so far in his career.

Read the post man, not the point. The era was brought in the discussion.

 

[Ezekial]

Read the post man, not the point. The era were brought in the discussion.

The discussion was a comparison of Kotkaniemi to "a very solid 1 or 2 c, à la Towes pré-suckage"

You came in with some dumb non-sequitur

 

[DaPhazz]

The discussion was a comparison of Kotkaniemi to "a very solid 1 or 2 c, à la Towes pré-suckage"

You came in with some dumb non-sequitur

Did you miss the 'suckage part' my dude?

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Generational player for you,and a generational player for you. Generational players for everyone

Never change HF

Well if it means anything we here in Winnipeg just traded away our ‘generational’ player just last week.

 

[deca guard]

way i see him is when he came into pro hockey he was very talented but not physically hardened enough , the physicality needed to succeed caught him off guard . so much so he couldnt find his comfort zone the first few years . but now ide say hes just spent two years training hard off ice and burned off the baby fat and hardened up . and he came out this year looking like he now knows what it takes and confident hes developed to that level . hes evolved from a kid to a man . now you see a confident very smart player thats constantly working and making smart plays with or without puck and no matter which team has possesion . hes stealing pucks , making smart passes , able to use excellent edges and hands in the o zone to holdonto puck making time and space . not scoring alot but everybody knows his shot is top notch and thatll come . imo hes shown himself to easily be a top 6 player , and at sametime making it impossible for anybody to judge him as of yet not capable of playing on a top line .

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Jonathan Toews for almost the entirety of his prime was at the very least a top 10 center in the league. I just don't see Kotkaniemi getting there, and that's no knock on him. It's just that there are some very good young centers in the league right now who are going to be here for a long time.

A better comparison for Kotkaniemi would be Krejci IMO

Zadina is only 21, and while he has been given a shot at NHL games, he hasn't been surrounded by the talent of some of his peers

 

[sharkbyte]

Most of us Wings fans are very excited about him and he had to earn that excitement back after his D+1 season.

Zadina is a completely different player than when he first joined the organization. He's not some one-way sniper type winger, he competes all over the ice and has elite skill to go along with it. Where he ends up depends on how far he can take his hockey iq and skating ability.

And stats are not going to tell the story right now for him considering he's being centered by Valteri Filppula and receiving stretch passes from Marc Staal.

Random question, sorry to hijack the thread, but I noticed that Filppula had a sort of random 66 point season with the Wings in 2011-2012. Was he playing with Datsyuk or Zetterberg or something that year? Seems like an otherwise 40-45 ish point forward during his prime years

 

[TopC0rner]

He's making a career off lucky bounces.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

Easily one of the best looking wings players before he caught covid

The amount of salt here didn’t disappoint

 

[Ezekial]

He's making a career off lucky bounces.

100% correct bro

Just look at how lucky he was to get this point


Just bounced off the Carolina player's stick, then bounced off of his stick to Bobby Ryan, then bounced off Ryan's stick into the goal.

 

[TopC0rner]

100% correct bro

Just look at how lucky he was to get this point


Just bounced off the Carolina player's stick, then bounced off of his stick to Bobby Ryan, then bounced off Ryan's stick into the goal.

Unmatched luck level! S.P.E.C.I.A.L rating of 10 for L.