Filip Zadina, "3 years" and 176 pro games later, where is he at atm?

[Bfan14]

With 3 years left? On a 1 way contract?

Eg. Lukas klok came over.. got shipped to AHL and left but he had a 2 way contract and could make more Europe. It was also 1 year. Michael Kempny left a 1 way but it was a 1 year contract. Lukas sedlak also left but, again, 1 year contract.

This is a 1way contract for 3 seasons. And we are halfway through season 1.

Agreed you didn't say this season... I'm just not sure which season he would do that? Buyout more likely or being tossed into a trade to make it work. Lots can happen before he is buried in the AHL and leaving for home.

Ftr. I want him in Detroit but think he needs a trade ... Think they got a good thing going. Been a gongshow from a Czech perspective lol. Vrana in player assistance, kubalik from line 1 to line 4, Zadina was not playing well before injury, Bednar (goalie prospect was awful at summer jrs). Only hronek is excelling and he was a whipping boy last season.

If he spends most of next season in the AHL/press box with no signs of that changing then yes I could see him voiding the contract to go overseas before the 3rd year begins.

 

[Czechboy]

 

[GettingYourMoms]

He'll be filling nets in no time.

 

[Kennedys]

Ovie will beat Gretzky goals record just to be beat by Zadina by 2035

 

[Pavels Dog]

Even Wings fans have been saying Zadina has been one of their worst players and isn't showing much. He simply doesn't have NHL tools and cant make plays at NHL speed.

He's out of the league when that contract is done, if not sooner

That isn't really accurate. Zadina has probably been the Wings most debated player over the last few years and there's definitely not a consensus on him as a bad player. There's been a lot of this:

 

[Pizza!Pizza!]

Zadina is just AA with +10 IQ points and a smaller ego.

 

[Bank Shot]

I was told he was going to be a game changer?

Everyone that Detroit drafts is going to be a game changer ever since Zetterberg/Datsyuk.

I remember Filpula and Hudler were going to be the next late draft superstars. Joe Veleno was going to be a stud. The list goes one and on. Detroit prospects get serious hype.

Its probably not Canadian team prospect overhype but damn close.

 

[ricky0034]

Everyone that Detroit drafts is going to be a game changer ever since Zetterberg/Datsyuk.

I remember Filpula and Hudler were going to be the next late draft superstars. Joe Veleno was going to be a stud. The list goes one and on. Detroit prospects get serious hype.

Its probably not Canadian team prospect overhype but damn close.

I mean they weren't superstars but Filppula and Hudler aren't really great examples

those two were 4th and 7th in career points in the 2002 draft respectively

hell Hudler was even 8th in the league in points that one year in Calgary while leading his team by 12 points

 

[Fire Sweeney]

Everyone that Detroit drafts is going to be a game changer ever since Zetterberg/Datsyuk.

I remember Filpula and Hudler were going to be the next late draft superstars. Joe Veleno was going to be a stud. The list goes one and on. Detroit prospects get serious hype.

Its probably not Canadian team prospect overhype but damn close.

I remember posters on the Bruins board back in 2015 justifying the Zach Senyshyn pick by saying the Wings had him on their list

 

[Hostile Offer]

Everyone that Detroit drafts is going to be a game changer ever since Zetterberg/Datsyuk.

I remember Filpula and Hudler were going to be the next late draft superstars. Joe Veleno was going to be a stud. The list goes one and on. Detroit prospects get serious hype.

Its probably not Canadian team prospect overhype but damn close.

To be fair Zadina was really hyped prior to the draft and would've been really hyped regardless of the team drafting him. However I do agree on that the Wings' drafting reputation still gets boosted by the fact that they picked up a bunch of superstars in late rounds 20-30 years ago. Tatar and Nyquist were also going to be future stars at one point. The Wings simply didn't get those Datsyuk/Zetterberg type picks when they were in their respective primes and it caught up to them eventually. Yet there still seems to be an expectation that in every draft they get one Zetterberg. Not that I would say that all their prospects get overhyped, just an interesting notion I've made over the years.

 

[LarKing]

Never has a worse player lived so rent free in so many heads. People say they want more personality in hockey and then they rag on a player for 5 years after one confident line.

 

[Bfan14]

Everyone that Detroit drafts is going to be a game changer ever since Zetterberg/Datsyuk.

I remember Filpula and Hudler were going to be the next late draft superstars. Joe Veleno was going to be a stud. The list goes one and on. Detroit prospects get serious hype.

Its probably not Canadian team prospect overhype but damn close.

Weird examples since both Filpulla and Hudler ended up tremendous players for where they were drafted.

To be fair Zadina was really hyped prior to the draft and would've been really hyped regardless of the team drafting him. However I do agree on that the Wings' drafting reputation still gets boosted by the fact that they picked up a bunch of superstars in late rounds 20-30 years ago. Tatar and Nyquist were also going to be future stars at one point. The Wings simply didn't get those Datsyuk/Zetterberg type picks when they were in their respective primes and it caught up to them eventually. Yet there still seems to be an expectation that in every draft they get one Zetterberg. Not that I would say that all their prospects get overhyped, just an interesting notion I've made over the years.

I think in today's modern scouting were going to see less and less star players coming from the super late rounds.

Who was the last 6th/7th round pick to be a top 20ish player?

 

[biturbo19]

Seems like he's going a bit the way of Drouin. Though, without the scoring even when he's (rarely) healthy.


Teams should steer clear of drafting players from the Halifax Mooseheads at the top of the draft. They don't pan out like they're supposed to.




Wait...i'm being told that Hischier is amazing, MacKinnon is one of the best players in the league, Meier is a top tier scoring winger, Ehlers piles up points, and Voracek has been a stud through a long career. Might have to revise my rule.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Weird examples since both Filpulla and Hudler ended up tremendous players for where they were drafted.


I think in today's modern scouting were going to see less and less star players coming from the super late rounds.

Who was the last 6th/7th round pick to be a top 20ish player?

Mark Stone and Kiril Kaprizov comes to mind. Can’t remember which round but they were both late picks. But you are correct, it was more common 20-30 years ago.

 

[Bfan14]

Mark Stone and Kiril Kaprizov comes to mind. Can’t remember which round but they were both late picks. But you are correct, it was more common 20-30 years ago.

Yeah forgot about Stone that's a good one. Kaprizov dropped so much less so to do with skill and more so the worry if he would ever come over IIRC.

 

[Anders Cain]

Seems like he's going a bit the way of Drouin. Though, without the scoring even when he's (rarely) healthy.


Teams should steer clear of drafting players from the Halifax Mooseheads at the top of the draft. They don't pan out like they're supposed to.




Wait...i'm being told that Hischier is amazing, MacKinnon is one of the best players in the league, Meier is a top tier scoring winger, and Voracek has been a stud through a long career. Might have to revise my rule.

Go back a little further to giguere and tanguay too

 

[BoardsofCanada]

I have been a Zadina supporter up until this season. I felt he was underrated and would break out eventually. But this season is proving the doubters were correct all along. He's a power play threat and that's about it. He just can't seem to produce consistently 5 on 5. Many are called,.. few are chosen.

 

[Czechboy]

Weird examples since both Filpulla and Hudler ended up tremendous players for where they were drafted.


I think in today's modern scouting were going to see less and less star players coming from the super late rounds.

Who was the last 6th/7th round pick to be a top 20ish player?

I agree with you but my closest answer is Benn who was 5th round. Palat was a 7th rounder but he probably isn't considered a top 20 player (unless we're talking playoffs where he tends to be damn good).

Panarin went undrafted... but that is the 'Russian factor'.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

What's happening with DRW picks? All of their picks were supposed to be Gods like Zadina and Veleno.. but they haven't shown too much.

 

[The Flying Octopus]

What's happening with DRW picks? All of their picks were supposed to be Gods like Zadina and Veleno.. but they haven't shown too much.

Mo, Soderblom, Edvinsson, Raymond, Berggeron, Lombardi, Mastrosimone, Kasper, Wallinder.....

 

[ThankGord]

I have been a Zadina supporter up until this season. I felt he was underrated and would break out eventually. But this season is proving the doubters were correct all along. He's a power play threat and that's about it. He just can't seem to produce consistently 5 on 5. Many are called,.. few are chosen.

He’s been injured all season… how does that prove the doubters correct?

What's happening with DRW picks? All of their picks were supposed to be Gods like Zadina and Veleno.. but they haven't shown too much.

4th best prospect pool according to Scott Wheeler and The Athletic. Calder winning rookie Mo Seider and finalist Lucas Raymond. Veleno and Zadina were Ken Holland picks.

 

[Bfan14]

I agree with you but my closest answer is Benn who was 5th round. Palat was a 7th rounder but he probably isn't considered a top 20 player (unless we're talking playoffs where he tends to be damn good).

Panarin went undrafted... but that is the 'Russian factor'.

Someone else said Stone and that's a great answer. Definitely a big time rarity these days

 

[Breakers]

World junior hype just hits different

 

[biturbo19]

Go back a little further to giguere and tanguay too

For some reason, i didn't even really register that Giggy was a top pick back in the day. He always seemed more like the sort of "late round goalie gem" to me. Like, he doesn't have the hyper athletic profile of the typical "1st round goaltender" pick of today. He was more just a bigly huge dude who got in the way of a lot of pucks.

 

[Ezekial]

Zadina is just AA with +10 IQ points and a smaller ego.

Except for their playstyles, skating, and effort levels being nothing alike, this is spot on.