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Post-Game Talk: Father defeats son
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OMG kinda like what Tampa did last year .. da precedent was set .. but does Shanny/Dubie have b*lls to do it? .. but you are right it would set us up for a legit Cup runWouldn't it be fitting to LTIR Marner, acquire those missing pieces and bring back Marner for game 1 of the playoffs ?? Seriously, we need a couple of upgrades if we want to take out one or both of Florida teams or we have to hope Florida and Tampa meet in round 1 and kick the snot out of each other, leaving the Leafs to wipe the floor with the winner.
ToneDog
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So far Dubas has hit a triple over the past summer. Thought Kase an after thought due to injuries but this guy has probably been the best pick up IMO.
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Pacing for his second 70+ point season. He's one of only 3 Leaf d-men to hit that (Salming x 4, Turnbull x 1). I've been saying for a couple years now that despite the obvious desire for team success, it would be nice amongst the negativity if folks stopped to enjoy the ride a bit and realize we have 3 guys who - if they remain Leafs a while - will likely set season or total club records. Matthews and Marner are the two obvious ones but lost in that is Mo and the assault he is having on club numbers. Yes, he has his warts but it never hurts to appreciate the good along the way.
I remember years ago pointing out by age how Mo was fairly consistently ahead of PK in production. Then PK got a $9 M contract 6 years ago.....that's equivalent to $10.2 M on today's cap. Meanwhile this whole time we have had Mo at $5 M and just signed him long term at $7.5 M. PK topped 40 points only 4 times and only once hit 60. I'm sure someone will say "but but but Norris" though you'll have to tell that to someone who buys into that being an award for defense.
You're making it up, Zeke.
The NHL has published rules that don't match your imaginary rules.
When they adjudicate waiver claims mid-season they use the NHL's actual rules. The team with the fewest points goes first. The team with the most points goes last.
If two or more teams have the same number of points, then they apply the tiebreakers.
That’s one of the reasons. Any raise on his current deal is going to be hard to fit. Subtractions are already necessary to fit this Soup under the cap.
The other is his injury history. I think of each game as a little bit more gravy. And hope for the best.
Add those two together, and that’s where I’m at. Enjoy him each game, with my fingers crossed.
Well said. He was pacing to be the top free agent defenceman available. No doubt in my mind he could have cashed in for a lot more than what he signed for. Clearly, he toned down his own production for a little while to keep his own AAV down to help the team long-term. Quite the team guy.
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No that would be stupid, of course they need Marner.
I’m in Edmonton,and have to listen every day on TSN Edmonton
Our Leafs being trash talked by every host,and the phone in fans.
They truly hate us.So sweet,results like last night.Go Leafs.
Funnily enough, it's literally the exact opposite of what you said, according to the CBA:
In the event that more than one Club makes a claim for such Player, he shall: (i) be transferred to the claiming Club having earned the lowest percentage of possible points in the League standing at the time of the request for Waivers
zeke
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And my point is that...this is simply wrong.
how do we know? well, we recently had a season where everyone finished with different games played - the 19-20 season.
and what happened at the end of the season when it came to seeding the playoffs team according to the actual standings?
the league used points percentage, not points.
Vancouver was seeded 3rd in the western play-ins despite having fewer points than #4 CGY and #5 MIN. Calgary had home ice advantage over minnesota despite having fewer points.
The Islanders were seeded 3rd in the eastern play-inss despite having fewer points than #4 TOR and #5 CBJ. The Panthers were seeded 6 despite having fewer points than the 7th seeded rangers.
And furthermore, we can actually see this in real time during every day of the regular season - the waiver wire order is always based on points percentage on that day, not on points.
There is no debate about this - points percentage always wins. Points only win in a very specific circumstance.
And this makes sense because the Points standings is so radically incomplete - it literally ignores Losses altogether. It pretends they don't exist. That doesn't even make sense.
zeke
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This is false. The waiver wire order is always in order of points percentage. always.
I don't know how it's so hard for people to understand that points percentage is king. It's the only thing that matters.
The only reason the NHL has points to begin with is because of 3 point games. They even have more specific win categories. ROW and RW.
Leafs are not in first place in the standings right now. That's just the truth.
If the season were to get cancelled today, the draft order would not have us picking 32.
The only reason the NHL has points to begin with is because of 3 point games. They even have more specific win categories. ROW and RW.
Leafs are not in first place in the standings right now. That's just the truth.
If the season were to get cancelled today, the draft order would not have us picking 32.
And my point is that...this is simply wrong.
how do we know? well, we recently had a season where everyone finished with different games played - the 19-20 season.
and what happened at the end of the season when it came to seeding the playoffs team according to the actual standings?
the league used points percentage, not points.
Vancouver was seeded 3rd in the western play-ins despite having fewer points than #4 CGY and #5 MIN. Calgary had home ice advantage over minnesota despite having fewer points.
The Islanders were seeded 3rd in the eastern play-inss despite having fewer points than #4 TOR and #5 CBJ. The Panthers were seeded 6 despite having fewer points than the 7th seeded rangers.
And furthermore, we can actually see this in real time during every day of the regular season - the waiver wire order is always based on points percentage on that day, not on points.
As I said what I stated is printed on their site, maybe you should correct the webmaster for the site. If the season ended today we win not Carolina according to the NHL site rules.
There is no debate about this - points percentage always wins. Points only win in a very specific circumstance.
And this makes sense because the Points standings is so radically incomplete - it literally ignores Losses altogether. It pretends they don't exist. That doesn't even make sense.
According to the NHL site it's points 1st, if the site is incorrect, well that doesn't surprise me.
zeke
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LOL! ok i'm just going to let it go Zeke but I read the line below and tiebreakers only come into play if teams are tied in points
If two or more clubs are tied in points during the regular season, the standing of the clubs is determined in the following order:
zeke
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Again, we can literally just look at the 19-20 season, where teams finished higher in the standings than teams with more points than them.
That happened.
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Yeah I noticed that too. For all his agility and hand eye there's really no reason for him not to be Pavel Datsyuk on defence.
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Matty and McJesus down the middle would be insane. Tavares may even stick around for Spezza money to play wing.
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I would say okay, given the competition. I was surprised that Keefe didn't revert back to Muzzin-Holl for this game given their success against McDavid in the past. Muzzin-Liljegren had by far the most 5v5 ice time of any pair and drew the most of McDavid and Draisaitl.
Now I don't know if they necessarily came out on top of that matchup, they were hemmed in a lot but did a decent job of not allowing too many grade A chances. The numbers aren't pretty but it seems to more reflect losing the quantity battle by a landslide.
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