vadim sharifijanov
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Farthest into a season a modern dman not named Orr has led the league in scoring
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I might be way off here but I seem to recall that John Carlson was flirting with some kind of leading stat at point?
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Yes, as of October 26th he was leading the league.
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Karlsson had almost as many points 19 games into the season last year, 28 vs 30. If not for McDavid's historical season he would have been tied for the league lead, just as how Quinn wouldn't be leading today if McDavid was his normal self. Also considering the Sharks PDO of 97.3 and 19.6% powerplay(at the time) vs the Canucks currently unstainable PDO of 105.1 and 30.99% powerplay, imo Karlsson's start was more impressive.
Still I'll give Quinn credit, it almost certainly is the most points by a defensemen 19 games into a seasons since Al MacInniss had 32 in 90-91
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Still I'll give Quinn credit, it almost certainly is the most points by a defensemen 19 games into a seasons since Al MacInniss had 32 in 90-91
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vadim sharifijanov
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ok so what’s the deepest into the season two dmen have been #1 and 2 in pts?
edit: oh wait, nm, miller’s goal tonight keeps him one pt ahead of makar
edit: oh wait, nm, miller’s goal tonight keeps him one pt ahead of makar
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Karlsson had almost as many points 19 games into the season last year, 28 vs 30. If not for McDavid's historical season he would have been tied for the league lead, just as how Quinn wouldn't be leading today if McDavid was his normal self. Also considering the Sharks PDO of 97.3 and 19.6% powerplay(at the time) vs the Canucks currently unstainable PDO of 105.1 and 30.99% powerplay, imo Karlsson's start was more impressive.
Still I'll give Quinn credit, it almost certainly is the most points by a defensemen 19 games into a seasons since Al MacInniss had 32 in 90-91
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Plus as far as I can tell he’s playing a really good defensive game doing it.
John Cullen #1 ahead of Gretzky and Darren Turcotte at 6th.....wow.Karlsson had almost as many points 19 games into the season last year, 28 vs 30. If not for McDavid's historical season he would have been tied for the league lead, just as how Quinn wouldn't be leading today if McDavid was his normal self. Also considering the Sharks PDO of 97.3 and 19.6% powerplay(at the time) vs the Canucks currently unstainable PDO of 105.1 and 30.99% powerplay, imo Karlsson's start was more impressive.
Still I'll give Quinn credit, it almost certainly is the most points by a defensemen 19 games into a seasons since Al MacInniss had 32 in 90-91
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ok answering my own question
according to ray ferraro on his podcast, the dmen to ever lead the league after 20 games are bobby orr (5x), macinnis (once), and quinn hughes (before kucherov rang up his 6er last night)
would love to see actual numbers but there it is
makar is within range for now, so we might see a fourth guy at some pt in the next little bit… fun to watch him and quinn duel
edit: although i’m having trouble finding which macinnis season it would be, because it isn’t 1990, 91, or 92, at least not near the 20 game mark.
according to ray ferraro on his podcast, the dmen to ever lead the league after 20 games are bobby orr (5x), macinnis (once), and quinn hughes (before kucherov rang up his 6er last night)
would love to see actual numbers but there it is
makar is within range for now, so we might see a fourth guy at some pt in the next little bit… fun to watch him and quinn duel
edit: although i’m having trouble finding which macinnis season it would be, because it isn’t 1990, 91, or 92, at least not near the 20 game mark.
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When I was poking around trying to help answer this last week, I couldn't find a point where MacInnis was an answer either...
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MacInnis never lead, was just saying he's just the last defenseman to have more points than Quinn by the quarter point of a season(90-91).
edit* Turns out I lied, he did lead for a bit but only as far as November 1st, 14 games in the season.
edit* Turns out I lied, he did lead for a bit but only as far as November 1st, 14 games in the season.
Crazy Times indeed
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vadim sharifijanov
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i think this must be the stat ferraro saw/heard and misremembered:
3rd defenceman in NHL history with 30 points in fewer than 20 games to begin a season, joining Bobby Orr (5x) & Al MacInnis in 1990-91
3rd defenceman in NHL history with 30 points in fewer than 20 games to begin a season, joining Bobby Orr (5x) & Al MacInnis in 1990-91
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I was thinking there's no way Paul Coffey didn't do it, but looks like he didn't. Usually started "slow" and finished white hot.
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The 1985-86 season from January 1 onwards.
82 points in 43 games to finish the season. 33 goals, good for third behind Bossy and Kurri. Wild.
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82 points in 43 games to finish the season. 33 goals, good for third behind Bossy and Kurri. Wild.
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I was thinking there's no way Paul Coffey didn't do it, but looks like he didn't. Usually started "slow" and finished white hot.
The 1985-86 season from January 1 onwards.NHL Stats
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82 points in 43 games to finish the season. 33 goals, good for third behind Bossy and Kurri. Wild.
i imagine it would be hard to find a stretch where coffey led the league, considering he was feeding outlets to and QBing a PP with gretzky and mario. but 95 would be the logical sweet spot.
here’s paul coffey tied with rookie forsberg for league lead from march 22 to the end of the lockout season—
very similar pace to hughes’ league-leading 31 pts in the first 20 games
kind of amazing to imagine what a peak 80s coffey could have accomplished in a league with no gretzky or mario…
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I could see it for Coffey because I remember the Leafs' hot start in 2018 right after adding Tavares to the artillery. 18 games in and it's Morgan Rielly leading the team in scoring, because for him it's a breakout pass to Matthews, a breakout pass to Nylander, a breakout pass to Marner and they're all scoring (this did not continue). Swap that for the diverse array of all timers on the Oilers and it's not inconceivable at all. But of course if it didn't happen it didn't happen.
