OT: Fantasy Pick 'em Pool - Game 21 - @ Canadiens

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Harbour Dog

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1) For each Rangers game this year, everybody is welcome to comment with their two selections (one player from each team) who they think will score the game-winning goal.

2) A correct answer is worth 30 points minus the number of minutes that the player was on the ice for, ignoring seconds. Some examples:
- Kreider scores the game winner and has 15:40 TOI; anybody who picked him gets 30-15 = 15 points
- McKegg scores the game winner and has 8:55 TOI; anybody who picked him gets 30-8 = 22 points
- Brent Burns scores the game winner and has 26:15 TOI; that is 30-26 = 4, but the minimum is 5 points

3) I will always try to start the threads the night before with an updated leaderboard in the first post, and will only accept predictions posted before the scheduled start of the game.

4) In games that end in a shootout, whichever player scores the deciding goal will be given the GWG for the purposes of scoring.


Tonight, Logan Brown scored his first career goal, which went as the GWG, and was worth 15 points. Obviously nobody picked that, so the leaderboard remains unchanged. Or that's I would be saying if we weren't in some wacky alternate universe where @NYRFANMANI picked that to happen, and has now been right for three straight games! In that time, he's moved from 0 points to 38, one clear in first place. 15 points is also the most scored on a single night so far.


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Comment below with your picks for the Rangers @ Canadiens tomorrow!
 
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Kakko Domi

@Harbour Dog any thought to changing this next year...I think maybe instead of it's current format you could divide the points into however many ppl select that player...encourages outside the box thinking instead of just picking panarin and the highest scorer on the other team.

Just a thought.
 
Kakko Domi

@Harbour Dog any thought to changing this next year...I think maybe instead of it's current format you could divide the points into however many ppl select that player...encourages outside the box thinking instead of just picking panarin and the highest scorer on the other team.

Just a thought.

That's a great idea! The current incentive isn't quite enough.

We'll obviously play this year out as is, but next year's iteration will have that idea integrated into it.
 
I'll try to pick uninjured options tonight! I really wanted to go Suzuki tonight because he was so awesome in last year's CHL playoffs.

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Another idea @Harbour Dog is to have a reserve player for every game that you choose... This player could sub in for any player selected by us who doesn't see any actual game time due to pregame injury, illness, etc.

It could even be as simple as the lowest jersey number to skate in the game..or the highest..or closest to 50 without going over or what not
 
Another idea @Harbour Dog is to have a reserve player for every game that you choose... This player could sub in for any player selected by us who doesn't see any actual game time due to pregame injury, illness, etc.

It could even be as simple as the lowest jersey number to skate in the game..or the highest..or closest to 50 without going over or what not

Yeah, I like this too. Would save a lot of jockeying when guys are announced as late scratches. I'll probably institute this next game.

I'm also thinking for the last stretch of games (probably Game 70 onwards), I will disallow picking the exact same two selections as anybody who has already posted their guys. To make sure nobody (myself included) gets cute and tries to protect their position from the people below them, by matching them.
 
That's a great idea! The current incentive isn't quite enough.

We'll obviously play this year out as is, but next year's iteration will have that idea integrated into it.

I don’t like this idea because then it becomes a contest to see who posts earliest. For example if I post early and take Panarin then everyone else has less incentive to take him because they get 1/2 or 1/3 points. Doesn’t really work unless it’s a secret ballot up until game time.
 
I'm also thinking for the last stretch of games (probably Game 70 onwards), I will disallow picking the exact same two selections as anybody who has already posted their guys.

This rule also gives way too much incentive to being one of the first people to post in the thread.

Says me, who has forgotten to post two games in a row :D
 
@Don Chytil Those are solid points.

I had considered, for the 70 game onward stretch, that I could also instead enforce the time limit much more strictly and with warnings as the deadline approaches, so that people can wait until the last 30 seconds or so to submit if they wish, to avoid having their picks copied. I'm not sure if the option I mentioned above might not be better for it though.

As for the idea that Inferno put forward; I haven't thought about how I would implement it yet, but you are probably right that a true split of the points would be too severe and strongly reward early posting. Perhaps something like points earned are decreased by one or two for every extra player that takes a guy. Or once you guess a player correctly, you can never guess them again.
 
@Don Chytil Those are solid points.

I had considered, for the 70 game onward stretch, that I could also instead enforce the time limit much more strictly and with warnings as the deadline approaches, so that people can wait until the last 30 seconds or so to submit if they wish, to avoid having their picks copied. I'm not sure if the option I mentioned above might not be better for it though.

As for the idea that Inferno put forward; I haven't thought about how I would implement it yet, but you are probably right that a true split of the points would be too severe and strongly reward early posting. Perhaps something like points earned are decreased by one or two for every extra player that takes a guy. Or once you guess a player correctly, you can never guess them again.
This would require you to track everyone but how about a compromise where... Everytime you pick the same guy correctly you get 50% of the points or 75% or something... So it's depreciating for you individually to keep picking panarin or ovechkin.
 
This would require you to track everyone but how about a compromise where... Everytime you pick the same guy correctly you get 50% of the points or 75% or something... So it's depreciating for you individually to keep picking panarin or ovechkin.

I'm actually already tracking that, so it really wouldn't be much more work for me anyway. And I think some variation like this would be the best way to go. Puts everybody on an even playing field, regardless of how quickly you are able/forced to make your predictions.

I'm very much against the concept "first come, first serve" . Some of the stuff you guys talked about, will definitely benefit the guy voting chronologically first more ... not sure I'm cool with that.

I hear you guys, and I agree! It wasn't something that I had considered at first.
 
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