Extra man to prevent breakaway?

[ello]

Saw this mentioned in the Duncan Keith thread but I thought it was interesting enough to warrant some more discussion

What if the defending team could see a breakaway or a 2 on 0 developing from a mile away like in the Hawks/Canes game yesterday and sent a player over the boards to break it up? It would just be a too-many-men minor penalty right?

I know this sounds stupid but is there a specific rule in place to prevent something like that happening?

 

[Dr Pepper]

Saw this mentioned in the Duncan Keith thread but I thought it was interesting enough to warrant some more discussion

What if the defending team could see a breakaway or a 2 on 0 developing from a mile away like in the Hawks/Canes game yesterday and sent a player over the boards to break it up? It would just be a too-many-men minor penalty right?

I know this sounds stupid but is there a specific rule in place to prevent something like that happening?

Yes, and you named it.

 

[JoVel]

Good luck with that with how fast the game is.

 

[IceNeophyte]

If your d zone is on your bench end, you cheat the player change to get a guy in front of the rush. They hardly ever call too many men for that.

 

[Section337]

It will result in a penalty shot or, if the goalie is pulled, an awarded goal.

 

[Teppo]

Something similar happened in one of my son's 18U games. We had the goalie pulled, and the other team recovered the puck and was going to walk in for an empty net goal. It was one of the last games of our goalie's youth career so he said "F-it" and hopped over the boards and tackled the kid going in for the empty netter. Of course he knew that it would be an automatic goal but he did it anyways. It was one of the greatest moments I have ever experienced in youth sports. It was low level hockey, and a pretty meaningless game - I think everyone involved got a chuckle out of it.

I will see if I can find the Livebarn vide of it and post it.

 

[Derailed75]

Good luck with that with how fast the game is.

This, that play happened fast and even if you saw Keith going down no one on the bench could have seen if face go into the refs knee and notice he was in pain and wasnt going to recover. Anyone jumping on the ice would have just negated the rest of the PP and caused a short Canes PP after it ended.

 

[nturn06]

Saw this mentioned in the Duncan Keith thread but I thought it was interesting enough to warrant some more discussion

What if the defending team could see a breakaway or a 2 on 0 developing from a mile away like in the Hawks/Canes game yesterday and sent a player over the boards to break it up? It would just be a too-many-men minor penalty right?

I know this sounds stupid but is there a specific rule in place to prevent something like that happening?

Why "a player"? If that was the case I would send 3 D-men out, same penalty better chances at stopping the breakaway.

The reason why this doesn't happen though is because the game is too fast.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

Saw this mentioned in the Duncan Keith thread but I thought it was interesting enough to warrant some more discussion

What if the defending team could see a breakaway or a 2 on 0 developing from a mile away like in the Hawks/Canes game yesterday and sent a player over the boards to break it up? It would just be a too-many-men minor penalty right?

I know this sounds stupid but is there a specific rule in place to prevent something like that happening?

See Rule 68 of the NHL Rule Book - specifically 68.1 (Illegal Substitution) as it applies to 68.3 and 68.4 - where, it will note:

It will result in a penalty shot or, if the goalie is pulled, an awarded goal.

 

[Atoyot]

First time it would happen it would be a penalty shot or penalty, then they would probably make a new rule that it would be an automatic goal. See: David Leggio.

 

[SotasicA]

The reason why this doesn't happen though is because the game is too fast.

Not really. It doesn't happen because it results in a penalty shot.

 

[Phil Kessels Hot Dog]

It will result in a penalty shot or, if the goalie is pulled, an awarded goal.

I feel like this is probably a rule that was added because of Roger Neilson. lol

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Maybe if games were turn-based RPGs, that counter could work.

 

[Jetsfan79]

Even if there was no rule preventing this, the moment someone trys it, a new rule would be created to stop it.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Good luck with that with how fast the game is.

The reason why this doesn't happen though is because the game is too fast.

Yeah, it would have to be an absolutely perfect storm for this to even come close to working. Breakaways only last a couple of seconds from the red line in. It's not like a penalty shot where they develop slowly.

Basically it would have to be coming right up the boards by the bench, otherwise there's little chance he could win a footrace against a guy who's already in full flight.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

Maybe if games were turn-based RPGs, that counter could work.

Hockey Board Games

WAIT - I'M THROWING THIS DEFENSEMAN OUT TO STOP THE BREAKAWAY! ROLL FOR INITIATIVE!

 

[Mikeshane]

It's interesting to think about these things and figure out how you can find a loophole to take advantage of. It all depends on how popular it becomes. In the past players would push the net off to to prevent goals being scored and it became popular so the league penalized it. Using a glove to win faceoffs became penalized. Delaying faceoffs became penalized.

 

[swiftwin]

There is a rule for this. It would lead to a penalty shot:

 

[Super Hans]

Maybe if games were turn-based RPGs, that counter could work.

*League uses Wheel of Justice*

*$5000 fine cast on target*

*It's ineffective*

 

[Demandedace]

This is similar to the goalie who saw a 3 on 0 coming down the ice so he just turned around and threw the net off the posts.

Much rather take my chances in a penalty shot 1 on 0 rather than a 3 on 0. It’s not in the spirit of the game, but it certainly makes sense.