News Article: Expansion

[Back in Black]

If the cap goes that high hopefully the floor takes a giant leap too so melynk will either be forced to spend or sell.

If that's what you want, say by by to NHL in Ottawa!

 

[Benjamin]

Does this mean an increased amount of games played?

 

[Knave]

Does this mean an increased amount of games played?

If I had to guess - it probably just means we'll see other teams less often (and those games are replaced by the new teams).

 

[operasen]

I'd assume 2 relocates (Phoenix to Seattle and Florida to Quebec) with new Vegas and Toronto rosters.

Total of 32 - split 16 +6 in 2X8 divisions. Having 34 teams keep the schedule out of balance; 32 is good.

POs -
5 plays 2; 3 plays 4; best of 5
1 seed enters the mix; best of 5
Best of 7 after that

all the way to the bank

 

[BK201]

Another Toronto team would be sweet.

They would suck about the same xD and Toronto fans could hate each other.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I wonder....maybe this is the reason Boro got that new contract? To give him, as a defenseman, enough NHL games under his belt so that we have some 'expendable' defensemen with enough games played on the unprotected list?

I mean, since this supposed expansion is in another 2 years, it give enough time to give some guys enough games to either play themselves onto the core or expose them without losing our best kids?

 

[LatteLarrys]

Another Toronto team would be sweet.

They would suck about the same xD and Toronto fans could hate each other.

Yes. No matter how terrible the teams perform, both arenas would probably be packed on a regular basis, making Toronto an ideal option for an expansion team (expansion money + projected performance level of an expansion team).

Daly has come out and denied the rumors since this morning, so at this point, we're merely just speculating. I'm sort of happy in a way - 34 teams sounds excessive. Two of these teams should come about through relocation.

 

[BK201]

Yeah 34 is too much and playoff ranks get murky. Sounds like a wild card scenario.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Whats the general opinion here on a 20 team playoff?

 

[BondraTime]

Whats the general opinion here on a 20 team playoff?

That it's literally impossible

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Whats the general opinion here on a 20 team playoff?

Needs to be evenly divided...16-8-4-2. Trying 20 doesn't work...20-10-5....how do you get to the next round?

 

[Sun God Nika]

Needs to be evenly divided...16-8-4-2. Trying 20 doesn't work...20-10-5....how do you get to the next round?

Nvm, I though a free pass system for division winners would work, but i dont think it would.

heres a 20 team playoff bracket I found on google

let teams

1
2
3
4

be division winners

13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20

be wild cards.

 

[Benjamin]

Im sure the owners would love to miss a round of the playoffs.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Im sure the owners would love to miss a round of the playoffs.

Brackets 1, 2, 3 and 4 could work as a one-game, win-and-you're-in style game between the bubble teams.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Im sure the owners would love to miss a round of the playoffs.

More owners will be pissed if more teams enter and their %chance of making the playoffs decrease.

 

[Upgrayedd]

I'd assume 2 relocates (Phoenix to Seattle and Florida to Quebec) with new Vegas and Toronto rosters.

Total of 32 - split 16 +6 in 2X8 divisions. Having 34 teams keep the schedule out of balance; 32 is good.

POs -
5 plays 2; 3 plays 4; best of 5
1 seed enters the mix; best of 5
Best of 7 after that

all the way to the bank

I was kind of thinking this as well but i am guessing the two expansion franchises would be in Canada to maximize on the expansion fee (Saw the figure of 1.2b being thrown around which sadly seems light for 4 new franchises, i could however see people in Canada paying close to 600 mil per). And the two re-located franchises would go to the US to compete quicker.

 

[ChocolateLeclaire]

Brackets 1, 2, 3 and 4 could work as a one-game, win-and-you're-in style game between the bubble teams.

That could work.

 

[Cosmix]

I'd assume 2 relocates (Phoenix to Seattle and Florida to Quebec) with new Vegas and Toronto rosters.

Total of 32 - split 16 +6 in 2X8 divisions. Having 34 teams keep the schedule out of balance; 32 is good.

POs -
5 plays 2; 3 plays 4; best of 5
1 seed enters the mix; best of 5
Best of 7 after that

all the way to the bank

I agree that 32 is more convenient for establishing equal size conferences and sub divisions.

Regarding Toronto, i think the league sees that as the major money-maker for expansion; however, the Leafs would probably demand compensation for loss of their market territory.

New franchises, rather than moves of existing franchises would also be better for expansion revenues.

Going to 36 teams would be even better than 32 or 34 since it is divisible twice by 2 meaning 36/2= 18 and 18/2=9 which would mean easier scheduling, etc.

 

[operasen]

That could work.

or best of three (more revenue). Cover normal expenses and feed the system

 

[Eco]

20 teams, in my opinion, puts even less prestige on the regular season. Not enough glamour goes into winning the league anymore, which to me, is more impressive than winning the playoffs.

 

[Stylizer1]

A few misconceptions so far in this thread:

Does anyone know for certain if expansion fees are actually included in HRR? I know it was a sticking point during the last lockout. If they aren't, $1.4 billion in expansion fees basically means $46.7 million dollars in Eugene's pocket.

Secondly, even IF expansion fees are included in HRR and there's a corresponding increase in the cap, it will only eat up 50% of the expansion fees. i.e. Eugene will get a paycheck for $46.7 million, and will only be obligated to spend half of that, so there's still a net positive for the team.

Furthermore, new markets will increase overall league revenue, however they are extremely unlikely to increase the cap. In order for them to have a positive effect on the cap, the average revenue of those new markets would need to be higher than the league average - extremely unlikely for a new market. They will likely take 10+ years of growth and market penetration to have revenues that high. The average revenue in the league will decrease, and therefore the cap will decrease (or rather, the lower revenues of new teams will offset the growth in established markets, thereby lowering the cap growth)

Expansion means nothing but good things for the Sens. Now relocation, i.e. Florida to Quebec, or Phoenix to Seattle - a poor market to a potentially huge market - that would have a positive effect on the cap, and hurt the sens financial position.

Hopefully, Eugene uses the cash influx to pay down the debt on the sens, or even better, refinance with more favourable terms. This would have a huge year to year improvement on our bottom line, and could free up an additional $5-10 million for salary a year.

Why you trying to make it so simple?

 

[Benjamin]

Im dumb. Completely misread.

 

[GimmeMyJetpack]

If you are a fan of the NHL you should be hoping for more American expansion. There's a reason why the league is the strongest it's ever been financially. I'll give you a hint it has nothing to do with Canada.

 

[18Hossa]

Ideal scenario for me: Expand to Seattle and Toronto, move Phoenix to Portland and then move Florida to Quebec
15 teams in the west and 17 in the east, could move either Detroit or Columbus back to the west to even it out if desired.

 

[Pancakes Pancakes]

I'd assume 2 relocates (Phoenix to Seattle and Florida to Quebec) with new Vegas and Toronto rosters.

Total of 32 - split 16 +6 in 2X8 divisions. Having 34 teams keep the schedule out of balance; 32 is good.

POs -
5 plays 2; 3 plays 4; best of 5
1 seed enters the mix; best of 5
Best of 7 after that

all the way to the bank

Agreed, I would say it's far more likely you get two teams relocated. I'd say maybe Florida and Phoenix get relocated, for arguments sake to Vegas and Seattle. Then you get two new teams in the East, Quebec and Toronto/Hamilton/Kitchener. Then you could look to move Columbus back to the West since they are not in the eastern time zone.