Speculation: Evan Bouchard asking $11M AAV on his next deal

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spaghtti

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what exactly is there that I dont know? so if it took 2 years to become a steal then I was right saying most thought he got overpaid at 8.5m when he first signed it.
I made no mention of your personal knowledge, but all those that thought Draisaitl was overpaid when his contract was signed were all wrong as Draisaitl far exceeded his salary
 

Arthur Morgan

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I made no mention of your personal knowledge, but all those that thought Draisaitl was overpaid when his contract was signed were all wrong as Draisaitl far exceeded his salary
doesnt change the fact when he first signed it he was overpaid, just like MacKinnon who signed for his actual worth but like 1 year later he was incredibly underpaid.
 

Soundwave

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Spending will set you free!
It can only go up forever!!
UNLIMITED and EXPONENTIAL growth!!!
You would be crazy stupid not to buy buy buy!!!!!

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Hope really does spring eternal doesn't it. Pro sports aren't recession proof. This league has had two lockouts just in the last 20 years. In that time there's also been two and maybe even technically three "once in a lifetime" economic crises.

Put your faith in Gary and the BoG I guess.

The current NHL is way below where it should be. COVID artificially lowered it, the cap should be in the mid-90s right now, it's several million short still.

The NHL said it may take until 2026 to pay off the debt from COVID, it's already been paid off 2 years ahead of that, that suggests to me revenue is driving faster than expected.

Go to any game, the prices of everything is way up from even just 5 years ago, let alone 10 years ago. The prices of merchandise is also way up in the same time frame, I remember being able to buy a jersey and team cap for much less than it is now.

We're overdue several years of 4-7 million yearly cap raises. Yes, even as much as 7. We had 6 in some years in the past, did we just think that was never, ever going to happen again?

There's the sheer factor of inflation too, a cap rise of like 4 million in 2014 would be over 5 million today. Inflation itself drives cap increases.

If anything it's the people that thought COVID was going to last forever that are out of sync. Unless there's another wundervirus from China, the cap is likely going to go on at least a 4-5 year run of substantial increases as it's been held down artificially for several years now and even then it will probably be well behind where it should be had COVID not happened.
 
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Fatass

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Bouchard had 10 goals, 47 points at even strength.
Makar had 13 goals, 47 points at even strength
Hughes had 12 goals, 54 points at even strength

Again, Bouchard is NOT a PP specialist.
Yup. Dahlin set the bar at 11.5
All three of these guys (imo) should eclipse that. If the Oilers can get Bouchard for less than Dahlin’s number, they should jump in that.

Gotta say, there is no team HFBoards likes talking about more than the oilers
Leafs?
 
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FlameChampion

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Feels like a lot of hate/jealousy towards the Oilers in this thread. If Bouchard was playing on an American team everyone would happy to pay him 10.

I think people also forget that hes been a monster in the playoffs.
 
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Seanaconda

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He just put up 30 points in the playoffs as a dman while looking great defensively for the most part
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Idk if his ask is outrageous but if he puts up his ploff stats the first little bit you should just give him the 11.

If he starts cold eh maybe wait the year out.
 

centipede2233

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This is true. Salaries will rise. The problem I see here is how much does he deserve from that rising cap?

He's one of the better young guys on D but man, $11M AAV? When I see these situations, I look at how the player is surrounded with talent. He's got two of the best players in the world playing on his PP and I see bloated stats because of it. Bouchard deserves credit for working hard and earning that spot but I think $11M is too high (even with a rising cap).

I don't think he is as good as Dahlin. Without a rising cap, I'd say Bouchard is a $8M guy. With a rising cap, I'd say $9M-$10M range. $11M is too much IMO
The difference being Bouchard is a RD, he gets 1.5-2 mil more just cause of that.Ask a gm how hard it is to get a top 4 RD, it’s the most valuable position, even more then a center.
 

ChaoticOrange

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We've reached the point where Oiler fans just pretend that Darnell doesn't exist anymore apparently.

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Who?
 
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hockeyguy0022

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Gotta get rid of Nurse, should have been done this summer.

Who cares about Bouchard, pay him whatever he wants, it's Nurse who's the never ending boat anchor.

No way they can do it without getting rid of Nurse?

Can send him to Souray Island..... enjoy a rich retirement/press box view from your TV set. If you want to get rid of the on the ice liability.

or we can trade you Darnell and you can continue to play...
 

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Oilers are in a tough spot with Bouchard in the sense that he might not actually be worth that much, but what's the alternative? Do they have a ready replacement for Bouchard if they decide to move on from him? And will that replacement fit the Oilers like Bouchard does?

It might be one of those situations where on the Oilers Bouchard's worth $11 million, even though on another NHL team he's more like a $9 million player.
Not that I’m comparing the two players, but this is word for word the conversation that went down when they signed Nurse.

The problem there was they signed him for 9.2 likely thinking he was about an 8M player and he ended up closer to a 4-5M player
 

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