Injury Report: Erik Haula - Knee (Day-to-Day)

[Lempo]

Yle Urheilun tiedot: Maaleja tykittänyt Erik Haula selvisi säikähdyksellä – saattaa palata kaukaloon parin viikon sisällä

According to Yle Sports, Haula is likely to return to the rink in a couple of weeks and will be testing his knee already this weekend.

The issue is not supposed to be structural, but some kind of infection situation. "Not serious."

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[Navin R Slavin]

Ok. "Not serious" infection situation many months after surgery seems like an oxymoron, but ok.

 

[Lempo]

Maybe 'inflammation' is more proper translation here.

 

[Lempo]

I mean, this injury stuff... you'd need to be ****ing doctor. And those guys can do better than me.

 

[Lempo]

Also something with his flute.

Yle Sports Details: Goalkeeper Erik Haula Survived With Fright - May Return To Ground In A Few Weeks
Erik Haula reportedly avoided a serious injury in a match against New Jersey.

NHL10.11.2019 at 09.33
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Erik Haula (right) was still struggling against the New Jersey Devils before he had to break the flute.Gregg Forwerck / NHLI via Getty Images)
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VANCOUVER. November has not treated Erik Haul of the Carolinas well in recent years. As Haula represented the Vegas Golden Knights last season, he broke his knees in a match against Toronto on November 6th. A serious injury kept the drill striker away from games for the rest of the season.

Haula played only twelve matches last season.

In 2019 collapsed again, and again in November. Just four days before the anniversary of his first knee injury, Haula injured his knee, this time in a match against the New Jersey Devils, represented by Sami Vatanen. However, now Haula reportedly avoided greater damage.

Haul has not played since his injury, and freshman Carolina pilot Rod Brind'Amour said Haul's return was a matter of days. However, a Finnish striker booked by Minnesota in the summer of 2009 did not travel to Ottawa with the team on Friday, causing local media concerns about Haul's situation and doubts about last year.

However, according to Yle Sports, Haul's knee injury is not serious this time. The injury is not known to be structural, but rather some form of inflammation. With a great start to the season, Canes Dock is testing the endurance of its knees over the weekend, according to Yle Sports.

The return to the rink is probably realistic within a couple of weeks.

Haula has played fourteen games in Carolina in the fall season, scoring 8 + 3. Haula is the best scorer in his team to date and the second most powerful Finnish scorer in the NHL with Joonas Donsko of Colorado. Only two goals were scored by Dallas' Roope Hintz, who has scored nine goals in the first half.

 

[poobags]

I mean, this injury stuff... you'd need to be ****ing doctor. And those guys can do better than me.

Yeah I've always wondered how difficult translating medical terms is. A lot of words that you wouldn't come across easily.

Do they talk about treatment? Inflammation would likely involve steroid injections whereas infection would be more antibiotics.

 

[Lempo]

Yeah I've always wondered how difficult translating medical terms is. A lot of words that you wouldn't come across easily.

Do they talk about treatment? Inflammation would likely involve steroid injections whereas infection would be more antibiotics.

They don't, and I wouldn't think Finnish Yle would be that much privy to the confidential medical stuff. Though they got some access to intel; likely some Finn person close to Haula.

 

[bleedgreen]

Yeah I've always wondered how difficult translating medical terms is. A lot of words that you wouldn't come across easily.

Do they talk about treatment? Inflammation would likely involve steroid injections whereas infection would be more antibiotics.

It could be inflammation caused by infection, with would maybe use both treatments but it doesn’t have to be one way or the other.

 

[The Jerk Store]

Also something with his flute.

Well, his wife is expecting...

 

[poobags]

It could be inflammation caused by infection, with would maybe use both treatments but it doesn’t have to be one way or the other.

Depends on the infection. I certainly wouldn't jump to steroids before completing a culture.

 

[Lempo]

Just that we are clear, the word "infection" came up here solely because of my using completely wrong word in my translation, courtesy of my medically wrong understanding of the word 'tulehdus' (which I believe does occasionally get wrongly used in Finnish as a synonym of sorts for "infektio" which is too posh a word).

The original newspiece uses the Finnish word for in sense of 'inflammation', and doesn't in any way refer to the circumstances of the other i-word.

edit: apparently on Finnish medical sites they work around the inaccuracy of word 'tulehdus' by using inlammaatio and infektio, and explicitly note the inaccuracy.

Let us all be thankful that this is the way how Erik Haula's knee is teaching people lessons, instead of it happening in the juvenile delinquent way at a Porian weenie kiosk.

 

[poobags]

Just that we are clear, the word "infection" came up here solely because of my using completely wrong word in my translation, courtesy of my medically wrong understanding of the word 'tulehdus' (which I believe does occasionally get wrongly used in Finnish as a synonym of sorts for "infektio" which is too posh a word).

The original newspiece uses the Finnish word for in sense of 'inflammation', and doesn't in any way refer to the circumstances of the other i-word.

edit: apparently on Finnish medical sites they work around the inaccuracy of word 'tulehdus' by using inlammaatio and infektio, and explicitly note the inaccuracy.

Let us all be thankful that this is the way how Erik Haula's knee is teaching people lessons, instead of it happening in the juvenile delinquent way at a Porian weenie kiosk.

I support the inclusion of more words in the Finnish language that look like their English counterparts. And vice versa.

 

[Porvari]

I support the inclusion of more words in the Finnish language that look like their English counterparts. And vice versa.

Finnish has a whole layer of those, but people tend to use them only when they want to be rigorous with their terminology / appear smarter than they are. In everyday life, we prefer to lurk in our primordial non-Indo-European forest.

 

[zman77]

If Erik needs to rest for another 2 weeks or more, so be it.
NHL has a long season and Haula has shown he's a valuable member of the 'Canes.

 

[Lempo]

Finnish has a whole layer of those, but people tend to use them only when they want to be rigorous with their terminology / appear smarter than they are. In everyday life, we prefer to lurk in our primordial non-Indo-European forest.

Check, and check.

The assessment here is fun, and accurate, and even more fun because barring maybe three hundred core words befitting to a paleolithic hunter-gatherer society and some substrate words mostly geographical in nature, every Finnish word is a posh Indo-European loan word snatched along the corresponding technological advancement like hammer or sheep or bee... and apparently scientists are still in two minds on "water".

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Do we know what Haula's injury was that he required surgery for? I did a quick search and only found that it wasn't an ACL injury, but an "atypical injury for hockey".

 

[Lempo]

Do we know what Haula's injury was that he required surgery for? I did a quick search and only found that it wasn't an ACL injury, but an "atypical injury for hockey".

We don't. There was an April article in the Athletic:

Inside Erik Haula's grueling road to recovery after a...

Haula’s initial diagnosis was bleak. He and the team still won’t clarify exactly what the injury was, but general manager George McPhee confirmed it was a knee injury that wasn’t the ACL, and he described it as “unique.”

But as the elite athlete he is, Haula progressed rapidly.
“When I first got injured, the doctors said I was done for the season,” Haula said. “Then all of a sudden I started making gains out of nowhere.”

 

[Lempo]

The scar on the knee looked like this in May (presumably).

The incision is of similar shape as the pics of total knee replacement scars have, but that sounds crazy. He was in wheelchair though, and apparently then had to learn to walk again.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

The scar on the knee looked like this in May (presumably).

The incision is of similar shape as the pics of total knee replacement scars have, but that sounds crazy. He was in wheelchair though, and apparently then had to learn to walk again.

That indeed sounds crazy, but is the exactly the same scar my wife has. She was a fitness instructor and personal trainer and wore out her knee from the years of wear on it so she had a total knee replacement almost 3 years ago. 6 months in, she was "back to normal" physically, but it took a full year to be fully back to normal (ie..not subconsciously favoring it). Still, to this day if she does too much on it, it becomes sore and sometimes a bit inflamed. She also doesn't quite have the same range of motion she had before the surgery, but it's close. Granted, she doesn't/didn't have the same medical care and training that a professional athlete has, but she also wouldn't be putting the same demands on the joint either.

Would be remarkable to see a guy with a knee replacement still play, but medicine continues to advance over time.

 

[Unsustainable]

That indeed sounds crazy, but is the exactly the same scar my wife has. She was a fitness instructor and personal trainer and wore out her knee from the years of wear on it so she had a total knee replacement almost 3 years ago. 6 months in, she was "back to normal" physically, but it took a full year to be fully back to normal (ie..not subconsciously favoring it). Still, to this day if she does too much on it, it becomes sore and sometimes a bit inflamed. She also doesn't quite have the same range of motion she had before the surgery, but it's close. Granted, she doesn't/didn't have the same medical care and training that a professional athlete has, but she also wouldn't be putting the same demands on the joint either.

Would be remarkable to see a guy with a knee replacement still play, but medicine continues to advance over time.

Stem Cell injections seem to have a huge effect on recovery also.

 

[tarheelhockey]

“lower body inflammation”

 

[Lempo]

“lower body inflammation”

Those should stay in Vegas.

 

[WreckingCrew]

“lower body inflammation”

I had that when Svech got his LAX-goal

 

[GoldiFox]

Waddell was at the Stormtrackers luncheon today. Said it was nothing more than inflammation after a back-to-back. Haula will deal with it the rest of his career. The MRI was clean and he could be back by Saturday.

 

[garnetpalmetto]

The scar on the knee looked like this in May (presumably).

The incision is of similar shape as the pics of total knee replacement scars have, but that sounds crazy. He was in wheelchair though, and apparently then had to learn to walk again.

That indeed sounds crazy, but is the exactly the same scar my wife has. She was a fitness instructor and personal trainer and wore out her knee from the years of wear on it so she had a total knee replacement almost 3 years ago. 6 months in, she was "back to normal" physically, but it took a full year to be fully back to normal (ie..not subconsciously favoring it). Still, to this day if she does too much on it, it becomes sore and sometimes a bit inflamed. She also doesn't quite have the same range of motion she had before the surgery, but it's close. Granted, she doesn't/didn't have the same medical care and training that a professional athlete has, but she also wouldn't be putting the same demands on the joint either.

Would be remarkable to see a guy with a knee replacement still play, but medicine continues to advance over time.

Stem Cell injections seem to have a huge effect on recovery also.

Waddell was at the Stormtrackers luncheon today. Said it was nothing more than inflammation after a back-to-back. Haula will deal with it the rest of his career. The MRI was clean and he could be back by Saturday.

Glad to see that's the case - after seeing it looked like a TKR and the potential "infection " translation from that Finnish article, I had flashbacks to a client we had when I was in workers' comp - guy had a TKR and got an infection (I think it was MRSA) in the surgical site - docs had to do a second surgery to remove the hardware, treat the infection, and then another surgery to put the hardware back in.