Eric Staal, greatest player of hockey

[Anton Babchuk]

Eric Staal has 45 assists in 76 games.

His assists are on goals by:

Tlusty (6)
Faulk (5)
Brent (5)
Skinner (5)
Harrison (4)
LaRose (3)
Stewart (3)
Jokinen (2)
Dwyer (2)
Samson (2)
Allen (1)
Poni (1)
Dalpe (1)
Sutter (1)
McBain (1)
Spacek (1)
Joslin (1)
Ruutu (1)

To calculate the average goals scored by each individual player, we'd multiply each goal scorer's season total by the number of time Staal assisted on a goal by them (for example, Tlusty would count six different times as a 17 goal scorer, while Ruutu would count once as a 17 goal scorer, etc), then divide that number by Staal's assist total. We wind up with an average of 11.2 goals.

Now, let's compare this to HF sensation and NHL assist leader Claude Giroux (note: Henrik Sedin passed Claude Giroux in assists while I was typing this post):

Hartnell (21)
Jagr (10)
Simmonds (10)
Read (4)
Timonen (4)
Van Riemsdyk (3)
Meszaros (1)
Gustafsson (1)
Voracek (1)
Couturier (1)
Schenn (1)

If we apply the same formula to Giroux's assists, we wind up with an average of 22.7 goals scored by those players.

11.2 average goals by Staal's teammates divided by 22.7 average goals by Giroux's teammates = .49

Staal has scored 76% as many assists as Giroux while playing with 49% of the talent.

Adjusting Giroux's assist total to Staal's situation, Giroux would have 29 assists if he was on the Hurricanes, while Staal would have 91 assists if he were on the Flyers.

Calculating the difference in the playmaking quality of their linemates would be too exhausting of a process, but let's assume that the playmaking talent disparity between their teammates is equal to the goalscoring disparity.

We wind up with the following results:

ADJUSTED POINT TOTALS

Giroux - 13 goals, 29 assists, 42 points
Staal - 46 goals, 91 assists, 137 points

League scoring is currently at 5.44 goals per game. During Wayne Gretzky's 215 point season, league scoring was at 7.94 goals per game. If we were to adjust Staal's Giroux-adjusted point totals to that season, we'd wind up with Staal having 200 points.

So, Staal is on pace to have one of the top five adjusted Claude Giroux-adjusted statistical seasons in history.

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[Finlandia WOAT]

Post this on the main board please.

 

[tarheelhockey]

It's funny you should post these numbers. After last night's mention that Staal was in the top-20 in points, I actually was thinking it would be interesting to see where he was getting his assists. Sure enough, you came through in the clutch

It says something that he has a combined total of 9 assists to Skinner, Jokinen, Ruutu and Sutter -- who I think most of us would agree are our best offensive players after Staal. So he's pulled down 36 of his 45 assists on goals by players who are below-average components in our below-average offense.

I agree this should go on the main board.

 

[DaveG]

.... wait, what?

I will say it would be interesting to compare where most players get their assists though.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

nm, added to original post

 

[Lazyking]

Mind=blown

 

[the halleJOKEL]

I agree with all of this.

 

[PaulProteus]

My head exploded, but for different reasons than heads are exploding on the main board after getting a load of this.

 

[Vagrant]

I don't think there was ever any doubt that Eric Staal is this generation's greatest player. These stats just cement that entirely objective fact even further.

 

[Sivek]

Eric Staal anagram

Eric Staal=elit raacs (elite rocks)

 

[Devils Nick30]

OP, you may have surpassed the Toews post for my favorite HFBoards thread.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=858856

 

[PaulProteus]

My most favorite quote so far is from Sureves on page 2.

Instead you did this, which is a completely inappropriate statistical analysis and is bankrupt of any intellectual thought.

OMG I needed a damn good laugh today.

 

[JustJoe2k5]

This post needs more intangibles. We all know Staal plays at yet another level when it matters most.

 

[DaveG]

... that thread is quickly turning into something of legend. BCC has completely redefined adjusted statistics.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

The main board thread is disgusting.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I have been LOLing for several minutes.

Thank you.

I will never stop appreciating Eric Staal ever again.

 

[PaulProteus]

I have been LOLing for several minutes.

Thank you.

I will never stop appreciating Eric Staal ever again.

Every time I read the words "analysis is off" or "stats is faulty" I'm lolling all over again.

 

[Vagrant]

While some would concede that the level of trolling in the OP would be enough, we have a poster here that will go the extra mile with posts so rife with contextual support that they actually make bizarro sense and *almost* give the impression of being an actual opinion. Thus, the most sacred troll of all. The troll so subtle that even your most skeptical homers can fall victim. Two parts statistical absolutes and logical deductions, one part pure crazy.... total mayhem.

 

[snakepliskin]

my eyes are crossed-SPEECHLESS-Thread of the Year!

 

[snakepliskin]

or------the guide to the universe by anton dubinsky!

 

[Anton H Christ]

hahahahahahahahahaha that main board thread is glorious.

 

[LadyCane]

I love that for every Flyers fan who's like "wut" there's a Flyers fan who's going "AHAHAHAHAHA AMAZING". I knew there was a reason I liked those guys.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

I love that for every Flyers fan who's like "wut" there's a Flyers fan who's going "AHAHAHAHAHA AMAZING". I knew there was a reason I liked those guys.

They're always split 50//50 on everything. Especially between Pat and Geno

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Two parts statistical absolutes and logical deductions, one part pure crazy.... total mayhem.

Some posters just want to watch the boards burn.

 

[PaulProteus]

I love that for every Flyers fan who's like "wut" there's a Flyers fan who's going "AHAHAHAHAHA AMAZING". I knew there was a reason I liked those guys.

When they aren't arguing with the entire NHL, they're arguing amongst themselves.