Eric Crawford unappreciation thread

[Seb]

His resume speaks for itself, he is the guy responsible to advise our dear GM on the pro players to acquire.

Since he took over Vaughn Karpan as Director of pro scouting, the Habs signed and traded for these players :

• Mark Streit
• Ales Hemsky
• Byron Froese
• Logan Shaw
• John Scott
• Karl Alzer
• Dwight King
• Victor Bartley
• Andrew Shaw
• Nikita Nesterov
• Jordie Benn
• Steve Ott
• David Schlemko
• Jow Morrow
• Andreas Martinsen

Seriously, WHAT THE f***?

[EDIT] Full list of moves :

Have fun not being impressed :
2017–18 Montreal Canadiens season - Wikipedia
2016–17 Montreal Canadiens season - Wikipedia

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[mariolemieux66]

His resume speaks for itself, he is the guy responsible to advise our dear GM on the pro players to acquire.

Since he took over Vaughn Karpan as Director of pro scouting, the Habs signed and traded for these players :

• Mark Streit
• Ales Hemsky
• Byron Froese
• Logan Shaw
• John Scott
• Karl Alzer
• Dwight King
• Victor Bartley
• Andrew Shaw
• Nikita Nesterov
• Jordie Benn
• Steve Ott
• David Schlemko
• Jow Morrow
• Andreas Martinsen

Seriously, WHAT THE ****?

Weber and Drouin?

 

[Habs100]

His resume speaks for itself, he is the guy responsible to advise our dear GM on the pro players to acquire.

Since he took over Vaughn Karpan as Director of pro scouting, the Habs signed and traded for these players :

• Mark Streit
• Ales Hemsky
• Byron Froese
• Logan Shaw
• John Scott
• Karl Alzer
• Dwight King
• Victor Bartley
• Andrew Shaw
• Nikita Nesterov
• Jordie Benn
• Steve Ott
• David Schlemko
• Jow Morrow
• Andreas Martinsen

Seriously, WHAT THE ****?

Do you have the full list with Byron, Danault, Petry, Weise, Deslauriers, Reilly, etc..

It's not going to be pretty but I'd like to see just how bad the full list is.

 

[The Great Weal]

Canucks had the worst drafting in the NHL with this guy. Clearly he is qualified.

 

[Genesis76]

Another chumy chumy?

 

[Genesis76]

lol he started in 2015-16....everything makes sense now.

Eric Crawford

 

[Vachon23]

Do you have the full list with Byron, Danault, Petry, Weise, Deslauriers, Reilly, etc..

It's not going to be pretty but I'd like to see just how bad the full list is.

Weise and Petry he was not there

 

[Andrei79]

Bloodlines baby.

 

[the]

Good friends with Bergy?

 

[Forsead]

Good friends with Bergy?

Bergevin played with the Canucks during his last NHL season. The coach was Marc Crawford who is Eric's brother.

Eric Crawford was then the Director of Player Personnel of the Vancouver Canucks .

 

[Genesis76]

Bergevin played with the Canucks during his last NHL season. The coach was Marc Crawford who is Eric's brother.

Eric Crawford was then the Director of Player Personnel of the Vancouver Canucks .

LOL.

This team is a joke.

 

[ahmedou]

Anotha depreciation thread

 

[habsterr]

A mastermind I tell yea.

 

[Seb]

Do you have the full list with Byron, Danault, Petry, Weise, Deslauriers, Reilly, etc..

It's not going to be pretty but I'd like to see just how bad the full list is.

Have fun not being impressed :
2017–18 Montreal Canadiens season - Wikipedia
2016–17 Montreal Canadiens season - Wikipedia

 

[FormerLurker]

Bergevin played with the Canucks during his last NHL season. The coach was Marc Crawford who is Eric's brother.

Eric Crawford was then the Director of Player Personnel of the Vancouver Canucks .

Bergevin was acquired at the trade deadline from Pittsburgh and played a whopping 9 games with the Canucks. Eric Crawford was an assistant coach with the Canucks' AHL affiliate during Bergevin's brief stint with the Canucks. It's unlikely that their paths crossed at that time.

Bergevin was a journeyman who played for 20 years on 8 different NHL teams, plus a handful of AHL and IHL teams. He probably played with hundreds of different players during this time and was coached and managed by over a hundred. Anyone with a career that long with so many different teams will have formed many contacts.

Was Eric Crawford a contact of Bergevin's before he was hired? Possibly. But it's unlikely that he was a friend. And it's also likely that most candidates for the role, both good and bad, would also have been contacts of Bergevin.

The "nepotism" card has been way overplayed with regard to Bergevin.

 

[snakeye]

Bergevin played with the Canucks during his last NHL season. The coach was Marc Crawford who is Eric's brother.

Eric Crawford was then the Director of Player Personnel of the Vancouver Canucks .

Illuminati confirmed.

 

[FormerLurker]

His resume speaks for itself, he is the guy responsible to advise our dear GM on the pro players to acquire.

Since he took over Vaughn Karpan as Director of pro scouting, the Habs signed and traded for these players :

• Mark Streit
• Ales Hemsky
• Byron Froese
• Logan Shaw
• John Scott
• Karl Alzer
• Dwight King
• Victor Bartley
• Andrew Shaw
• Nikita Nesterov
• Jordie Benn
• Steve Ott
• David Schlemko
• Jow Morrow
• Andreas Martinsen

Seriously, WHAT THE ****?

I get that the longer the list, the worst it looks. But really the only transactions of any consequence on that list are Shaw and Alzner. The rest are cheap and/or short-term for whom we gave up the following: Tinordi, Fournier, Racine, Pateryn, Andrighetto, 2 x 4th round picks, 1 x 5th round pick, and 2 x 6th round picks. Then we got a 4th round pick back for Morrow. So junk for junk, not unlike most other NHL teams.

Complain about the Alzner and Shaw transactions all you want as they were indeed bad. However lumping them in with the others in your list while failing to include the good acquisitions just stinks of bias.

 

[Forsead]

Bergevin was acquired at the trade deadline from Pittsburgh and played a whopping 9 games with the Canucks. Eric Crawford was an assistant coach with the Canucks' AHL affiliate during Bergevin's brief stint with the Canucks. It's unlikely that their paths crossed at that time.

Bergevin was a journeyman who played for 20 years on 8 different NHL teams, plus a handful of AHL and IHL teams. He probably played with hundreds of different players during this time and was coached and managed by over a hundred. Anyone with a career that long with so many different teams will have formed many contacts.

Was Eric Crawford a contact of Bergevin's before he was hired? Possibly. But it's unlikely that he was a friend. And it's also likely that most candidates for the role, both good and bad, would also have been contacts of Bergevin.

The "nepotism" card has been way overplayed with regard to Bergevin.

You're right about Crawford role this was an error form my part and it's true that this was a minor stint for Bergy, but that's still a connection. You can bond with someone not long after only few times, anyway this is speculation.

What I meant is that he played with Martin Lapointe, Rob Ramage, Scott Mellanby and worked with Rick Dudley in Chicago and now this connection with Crawford. This is almost all senior management roles with the Habs. The only exculsions are Larry Carriere and Sedgwick.

At this point it's alot and I don't think it's just because he had a long carreer with multiple teams.

 

[LaP]

lol he started in 2015-16....everything makes sense now.

Eric Crawford

Wow. His resume is ... let's say ... one that should land you no jobs at all.

 

[Seb]

I get that the longer the list, the worst it looks. But really the only transactions of any consequence on that list are Shaw and Alzner. The rest are cheap and/or short-term for whom we gave up the following: Tinordi, Fournier, Racine, Pateryn, Andrighetto, 2 x 4th round picks, 1 x 5th round pick, and 2 x 6th round picks. Then we got a 4th round pick back for Morrow. So junk for junk, not unlike most other NHL teams.

Complain about the Alzner and Shaw transactions all you want as they were indeed bad. However lumping them in with the others in your list while failing to include the good acquisitions just stinks of bias.

The point is these are all god awful NHL players and Eric Crawford vouched for them. His job is to scout NHL players and saying he sucks at his job is an understatement.

 

[Habaneros]

please (scout) and sign Scott Fraser from Blackhawks..this could be Tim Thomas...

Fraser could really thrive behind the Montreal defense...

 

[Genesis76]

I hope everyone is taking notes here... all you gotta do to become financially independent for the rest of your life is to hit the gym 4-5 times a week, hire a clothing designer, then hunt for dumb people with highly paid positions and tell them they're your best friends and that you will do anything for them when they need you.

Of course you should lie about the last part.

And dats it, dis is haw u get da respek and become da greater person.

 

[Runner77]

I posted these tweets in early February. They'll fit nicely in this thread:





Now, when will ownership name someone from the hockey world to oversee Bergevin, so we can have some of this useless deadwood cleaned out from the org.?

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Illuminati confirmed.

 

[MasterDecoy]

Haha wow