Epic Calder Race 2024-25

[FlyguyOX]

Leo was intentionally load-managed as a rookie. Based on the comments from Torts and Brierw, Michkov was scratched for his play.

Same with Michkov. He wasn't so bad that they had to bench him. It was strategic.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

I highly doubt Dustin Wolf wins it, and while he'll get some votes, he'll probably get fewer votes than he truly deserves. It's really difficult to compare goaltenders to skaters, so being a goaltender is simply a strike against him when it comes to the Calder race. It's also uncommon for goaltenders to win individual trophies that are open to all players, such as the Calder, unless they're clearly better than their (skater) competition for the award by a very large margin. That's another strike against him.

I'm not saying that he's deserving of winning it, and feel that it's Macklin Celebrini's to lose at this point of the season (unless something drastic happens), but it's an interesting thing to point out.

...I totally get what your saying, however I believe that if the Rookie point race stays close and Wolf continues to drag Calgary to a PO spot, it should, imo, go to Wolf...

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Same with Michkov. He wasn't so bad that they had to bench him. It was strategic.

That is provably false. The plan with Carlsson was known and communicated before the season even started.

 

[Mattb124]

Same with Michkov. He wasn't so bad that they had to bench him. It was strategic.

Interesting, I remember seeing the below from Torts in late October. Following that quote, Michkov’s ice time was cut in the couple games that followed and then he was scratched:

John Tortorella on Matvei Michkov:

"He's a 19-year-old kid playing in the best league in the World. He's totally not concentrated on certain parts of the game. If I see other guys going, then he's going to sit and watch a bit. That's all that was. He has had some struggles."

 

[FlyguyOX]

That is provably false. The plan with Carlsson was known and communicated before the season even started.

They were both strategic and didn't have anything to do with "too bad to play".

Interesting, I remember seeing the below from Torts in late October. Following that quote, Michkov’s ice time was cut in the couple games that followed and then he was scratched:

John Tortorella on Matvei Michkov:

"He's a 19-year-old kid playing in the best league in the World. He's totally not concentrated on certain parts of the game. If I see other guys going, then he's going to sit and watch a bit. That's all that was. He has had some struggles."

See, strategic. If MTL had Torts then I'd wager Hutson would've sat far more games than michkov.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

They were both strategic and didn't have anything to do with "too bad to play".


See, strategic. If MTL had Torts then I'd wager Hutson would've sat far more games than michkov.

One was planned absence for physical development, the other was unplanned based on poor performance. They aren't remotely comparable situations.

 

[Mattb124]

They were both strategic and didn't have anything to do with "too bad to play".


See, strategic. If MTL had Torts then I'd wager Hutson would've sat far more games than michkov.

Sounds like “bad enough Torts decided to bench him” to me.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Michkov wasn’t benched for load management it was just a sided side effect

 

[Gravity]

They were both strategic and didn't have anything to do with "too bad to play".


See, strategic. If MTL had Torts then I'd wager Hutson would've sat far more games than michkov.

Then don't wager because you're completely clueless.

 

[Herschel]

Yes of course. I know it's so hard to compare the F v D v G, but I just feel if it's close, the voters will lean towards the top line C that was a 1st overall pick.

Who knows, this will go down to the wire. It's awesome to watch.

I also think Wolf has two other knocks against him.

He is 23 years old and had already played +100 pro games before this season. Rightly or wrongly there will be those he will hold that against him.

He likely needs to be a clear cut Vezina finalist to compete with what Celebrini.