GDT: End of Season Media Availability - Players + Coach

[I am toxic]

Those two things are instinctual. I’d argue.

ts funny everyone sees hockey as a thinking game, I always have seen it as a feel game. What does the play need, what way is everyone leaning, where are the most open spaces?

I think you can think too much and it just drags you down pace wise. The guys out there thinking every play usually look f***ing lost.

I'm not sure how I feel about that

Let me think about it some more

 

[ExarKun80]

Pius Suter sounds like he's gone. He wants his big payday.

He'd be an idiot not to after this season.

 

[rielledup]

I can't think of another young star player with EPs body of work who's play all of a sudden fell off a cliff and never recovered, so it seems unlikely that he won't get back to being a great player. On the other hand, there's something about the way he answered those questions that doesn't inspire confidence.

 

[DFAC]

I can't think of another young star player with EPs body of work who's play all of a sudden fell off a cliff and never recovered, so it seems unlikely that he won't get back to being a great player. On the other hand, there's something about the way he answered those questions that doesn't inspire confidence.

Huberdeau or PLD?

 

[ChilliBilly]

Sorry, but wasn't the reason for EP to not be in top shape, was that his knee injury was stopping him in getting into top shape. Didn't he acknowledge that he was never able to recover completely from it, and it dragged him down.

He's had a down year. He's an introvert. He is our 2nd most important player, and like MacKinnon and others, you are insane to give up on them if they have a bad season.

We are going into next season with a very solid defence, good goal tending duo, and who knows as far as forwards go.

Let's hope we have a bounce back year, EP improves and Hughes continues to be a Hart candidate.

 

[brock hughes007]

Second year he's talked about finding more to generate offense. At least he knows it's an issue.

He knew that last season and failed to work on it..So in 2 seasons he has now figured that out..

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

for someone who apparently hates the city and it's culture he sure looks exactly like every dude i see in the breweries in mt pleasant on weekday afternoons

definitely like some mount pleasant white guy dads i’ve met at kids baseball

didn’t realize quite how much suter looks like someone who makes experimental electronic music or teaches continental philosophy

and wow mp3 sounds like he grew up in montana doesn’t he?

While Pettersson's answers aren't great they are still much better than they've been in the past.

not super excited hearing petey’s answers but tbh the most alarming thing was hughes’ last answer, about helping him along with the offseason training. hard to hear that coming from the one guy in the organization we all probably respect the most.

the thing you really want, i think, is for petey to spend two solid months with the sedins everyday, but unfortunately i don’t think that can happen with them on the team payroll

but since the bad stretch last season, i’ve been getting the feeling that when we hear him answering questions he has the mindset of a high school student talking to his teacher after class. i wonder how much of that is getting scolded by jtm for years has just broken him professionally. i’ve never heard an NHLer talk to the press like that, let alone a 100 pt scorer.

 

[brock hughes007]

So no Rutherford or Alvin at the presser.

 

[pitseleh]

Have concerns about Pettersson’s preparation come up before his drop in play last season? Feel like in the talk was always about his dedication and the current concerns seem difficult to disentangle from the knee issue.

 

[TruGr1t]

It just gets a little weird when you start reading into every little detail like that…

‘Tocchet Wore Black At His Season Ending Presser; Is he done in Vancouver?’

I mean I can even give you that perhaps the fact he wasn’t seated with Allvin and Rutherford is potentially something to read into….

…but, ‘he spoke first’ is a sign of a potential problem???

To me, that just really makes it seem like someone is reaching for a story.

It's not an invalid point. Typically, the Canucks trot the head coach out with management for some state-of-the-union, year-end availability thing to present a united front. The fact Tocchet will not be alongside Allvin and Rutherford is weird, but that doesn't mean it isn't just some scheduling thing or whatever that doesn't mean anything.

Now in my opinion, you can certainly read into that situation the fact that Tocchet remains unsigned, at the very least. Whether it has bearing on whether he will extend, well that remains to be seen.

 

[rielledup]

Huberdeau or PLD?

PLD was back to his usual self this year so not sure why you mentioned him.

Huberdeau would be the closest example but the first year of his downturn he was 28 turning 29. We've seen star players in the past already be past their prime in their late 20's. EP was only 25 in the second half of last season when his play fell off a cliff.

 

[ChilliBilly]

This is about EP40

but since the bad stretch last season, i’ve been getting the feeling that when we hear him answering questions he has the mindset of a high school student talking to his teacher after class. i wonder how much of that is getting scolded by jtm for years has just broken him professionally. i’ve never heard an NHLer talk to the press like that, let alone a 100 pt scorer.

He is an introvert. He gets asked the same stupid questions time after time when things are going bad. He is going to sound frustrated, probably because he really is.

We can all whine about the situation all summer. me. Not going to worry, will wait to next year to decide. This method has worked about 20 times in the last 10 years with multiple players that everyone is up in arms about, and say trade him.

Hollander is a good example. Mid season people were saying trade him for whatever you can get, even if you have to retain. Same could be said for Myers not long ago, when he was needed to play more minutes than he can really handle. etc ... etc ...

 

[iFan]

with how EP has been acting, my gut says he’s waiting for his NTC to kick in, then asking for a trade. Something is just way off with him.

 

[Hodgy]

Have concerns about Pettersson’s preparation come up before his drop in play last season? Feel like in the talk was always about his dedication and the current concerns seem difficult to disentangle from the knee issue.

it’s also curious that if there were concerns that management gave him the contract they did. Although I suppose his play hadn’t dropped off yet.

 

[rypper]

So no Rutherford or Alvin at the presser.

Monday.

 

[Attack Vector]

The most bullish thing out of the press conference was Demko emphatically saying he wants to stay here. He’s a franchise goalie and it would be amazing if he retires here.

 

[ephmrl]

The most bullish thing out of the press conference was Demko emphatically saying he wants to stay here. He’s a franchise goalie and it would be amazing if he retires here.

I'm pretty sure he lives in Vancouver year round now. He's the one core player I can see taking a significant discount to stay here.

 

[andora]

After reading this it's a good thing coach didn't fart

 

[God]

Have concerns about Pettersson’s preparation come up before his drop in play last season? Feel like in the talk was always about his dedication and the current concerns seem difficult to disentangle from the knee issue.

Cam Robinson went on S&P the other day and said that Pettersson used to train in Timra, but for the last two years has trained with some group out of Stockholm that isn't exactly highly regarded in Swedish circles. And the thought was that he might struggle in 23/24 but after his hot start maybe everything was fine, but as the season went on his conditioning wasn't up to par, and this season definitely didn't help that perception.

Basically... don't train with the same group in Stockholm.

 

[arttk]

I'm pretty sure he lives in Vancouver year round now. He's the one core player I can see taking a significant discount to stay here.

Issue is going to be term, I wonder if he believe in his body enough to take a short term to prove he is durable. I guess his agent would be super against that.

 

[arttk]

Cam Robinson went on S&P the other day and said that Pettersson used to train in Timra, but for the last two years has trained with some group out of Stockholm that isn't exactly highly regarded in Swedish circles. And the thought was that he might struggle in 23/24 but after his hot start maybe everything was fine, but as the season went on his conditioning wasn't up to par, and this season definitely didn't help that perception.

Basically... don't train with the same group in Stockholm.

I think it’s obvious that there is disagreement between management and Petey about whether or not the knee injury is a thing.

I don’t think there is another sports organization that takes knee injuries as lightly as the Canucks. This really makes no sense to me considering how almost all sports teams are super conservative about their players when it comes to dealing with injuries.

 

[CanucksMJL]

Karlsson give them the lead!

edit: wrong thread

 

[Canuckle1970]

Tocchet speaking first, and honestly, set the tone for the players. The players were free to be as honest as they felt like. To me, that showed a mutual trust between players and coach.

 

[God]

I think it’s obvious that there is disagreement between management and Petey about whether or not the knee injury is a thing.

I don’t think there is another sports organization that takes knee injuries as lightly as the Canucks. This really makes no sense to me considering how almost all sports teams are super conservative about their players when it comes to dealing with injuries.

I've heard second hand that the Canucks can't get good team doctors because they have to bill MSP, so the financial incentive isn't necessarily there coupled with the travel. But I'm not really sure if that's a province-specific or Canada-wide rule regarding sports teams, or if it even exists, and you'd think that the Whitecaps/Lions would have similar problems.

... I'm also not sure that I believe the organization doesn't take injuries seriously. They didn't let Quinn go to the 4 nations tournament, and it's hard to believe they wouldn't take something seriously with their highest paid player in Pettersson.

 

[ephmrl]

I've heard second hand that the Canucks can't get good team doctors because they have to bill MSP, so the financial incentive isn't necessarily there coupled with the travel. But I'm not really sure if that's a province-specific or Canada-wide rule regarding sports teams, or if it even exists, and you'd think that the Whitecaps/Lions would have similar problems.

... I'm also not sure that I believe the organization doesn't take injuries seriously. They didn't let Quinn go to the 4 nations tournament, and it's hard to believe they wouldn't take something seriously with their highest paid player in Pettersson.

The reality seems to be that his training just hasn't been up to par the past couple years. Management, Tocchet, and even Hughes have all acknowledged it. It's a little concerning that a pro level athlete who's going to be 27 at the start of next season is having his level of training questioned, and this better be a giant wake up call for Pettersson, or we'll be in huge trouble here.

A turnaround for the team next season is highly dependent on Pettersson getting his game back on track. Having a good summer of training should be a given for an athlete of his stature. This isn't a rookie trying to adjust to the rigours of being a professional athlete, this is a player whose played 7 seasons in the NHL and is part of the leadership group.