Prospect Info: Emerson Etem

[TheJoeMan]

Well let's not flood the Smith-Pelley thread with an Etem discussion when we can just have one here.

Etem is a fine hockey player. Those who had concerns that his goal scoring abilities might not translate quite as well to the NHL might be right. But who cares? The way he skates, gets in on the forecheck, and backchecks is excellent. He's created a lot of chances but can't seem to bury a puck. Whatever. He might finally break through but I'm fine with how he's playing right now. Would I prefer he score like he did in juniors? Absolutely. But if that's not going to happen I like the kind of player he's showing right now.

 

[Exit Dose]

I don't think playing against inferior goaltenders is going to help him, and I really hate the offense in Norfolk enough to think that he's not going to learn anything with more minutes down there - till at least some of that looted talent is replenished. He's snakebit, but he seems to find scoring chances in every game. I'm sure he'll see power play opportunities as the season goes on. I'm sure Bruce will work him in slowly as he has with the PK unit. Count me as voting with the status quo on this one. I see definite progress.

 

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

His scoring with come to the nhl, hes had a lot of chances the last few games... i think hes probably over thinking it right now, gripping stick to tight and stressing over the fact he hasnt scored.

Lets wait till he nets a goal and see how he reacts

 

[mightyquack]

Etem has looked better recently, specially on PK.

But he really needs to pick his head up more, misses so many opportunities by just putting his head down and charging, that and he'll probably be concussed by the time he's 23 if he doesn't

 

[DarthYenik]

He's doing what he needs to do. No one should expect him to blow up and start putting up PPG. He's getting chances, and doesn't look too bad defensively most of the time.

 

[camshaft]

With his speed and forechecking skills, he has revolutionized the Duck's pk. He and Cogs not only do a great job killing penalties, but it seems that this pair are dangerous and a threat to score every time they come on the ice to kill penalties

 

[KaseMeOutside]

he's doing fine for the role he's in right now, as long as he can be a presence on the forecheck, and keep helping our PK i'll be pretty happy

 

[Paul4587]

He's definitely a competent NHLer already - he's great on the PK and is a good 4th liner. The question is whether he'll develop that scoring touch he had in juniors and what the best path is in his development to turn him into a dangerous top 6 forward.

 

[12ozPapa]

I've loved him. I get the feeling that once he pots a goal, he'll turn it on and really up his game. The ketchup bottle and all of that.

 

[Vinegar Strokes]

I don't think playing against inferior goaltenders is going to help him, and I really hate the offense in Norfolk enough to think that he's not going to learn anything with more minutes down there - till at least some of that looted talent is replenished. He's snakebit, but he seems to find scoring chances in every game. I'm sure he'll see power play opportunities as the season goes on. I'm sure Bruce will work him in slowly as he has with the PK unit. Count me as voting with the status quo on this one. I see definite progress.

This. I think he's far better off playing an important NHL role and learning how to score at the NHL level from the likes of Selanne, Ryan, Perry.

 

[jax00]

Worst case scenario he ends up as Cogliano 2.0. Although I would say he is already more skilled than Cogs.

 

[AngelDuck]

Worst case scenario he ends up as Cogliano 2.0. Although I would say he is already more skilled than Cogs.

Don't agree. I think Cogliano is far and away better than Etem right now. At just about everything

 

[bumperkisser]

Don't agree. I think Cogliano is far and away better than Etem right now. At just about everything

Worst case scenario he ends up as Cogliano 2.0. Although I would say he is already more skilled than Cogs.

wrong year to be saying etem is better than cogs. cogs has been absolutely lights out for us this year.

im glad that people are ok with etem being a competent NHL'er and a good PK'er. but guess what, that scoring prowess he showed in the juniors has not come to fruition here in the NHL, nor in the AHL either.

he's not playing against "inferior" opponents in the AHL. the opponents in the AHL become inferior when you can basically dance around them and score whenever you want to score. When getzlaf and perry got moved up to the big club, THAT was when the AHL was inferior competition.

Etem hasn't even put up good numbers in the AHL yet, and to be honest hasn't really scored much at all and people are already saying he's too good for the AHL. This guy is going to be a great goal scorer for the ducks and a top-6 offensive threat. Leaving him up here right now to play a 4th line role with PK minutes is what we did to DSP last year and so far that's really shown to have not worked out.

 

[Exit Dose]

Etem hasn't even put up good numbers in the AHL yet, and to be honest hasn't really scored much at all and people are already saying he's too good for the AHL. This guy is going to be a great goal scorer for the ducks and a top-6 offensive threat. Leaving him up here right now to play a 4th line role with PK minutes is what we did to DSP last year and so far that's really shown to have not worked out.

If that is directed at my comment, then that is not what I said.

 

[HanSolo]

Don't agree. I think Cogliano is far and away better than Etem right now. At just about everything

Right now? Yes. But at this young age he's close.

 

[Vinegar Strokes]

Etem hasn't even put up good numbers in the AHL yet, and to be honest hasn't really scored much at all and people are already saying he's too good for the AHL. This guy is going to be a great goal scorer for the ducks and a top-6 offensive threat. Leaving him up here right now to play a 4th line role with PK minutes is what we did to DSP last year and so far that's really shown to have not worked out.

No one said he's too good for the AHL and no one said he's better than Cogs, you need to develop some better reading comprehension.

 

[bumperkisser]

No one said he's too good for the AHL and no one said he's better than Cogs, you need to develop some better reading comprehension.

"inferior competition in the AHL" would lead me to believe that the AHL is a league that is not good enough for him. Hence too good for the AHL.

and yes, a poster stated that at worst he'll become Cogs 2.0 because he's already more skilled than cogs.

how do those things not logically translate to my post? How about you actually browse the thread a bit before insulting me and my reading comprehension?

 

[Vinegar Strokes]

"inferior competition in the AHL" would lead me to believe that the AHL is a league that is not good enough for him. Hence too good for the AHL.

and yes, a poster stated that at worst he'll become Cogs 2.0 because he's already more skilled than cogs.

how do those things not logically translate to my post? How about you actually browse the thread a bit before insulting me and my reading comprehension?

That doesn't translate to him being too good for the AHL, that translate to he'll be better off developing and learning from the superior competition in the NHL.

The second was clearly his attempt to say that while Cogs is the better player right now, Etem might be more naturally gifted, "skill" not better than.

Once again, reading comprehension.

 

[Professor John Frink]

The big question is does he learn more and become the scoring threat the Ducks drafted him to be by playing 4th line minutes with some PK time or by playing against less talented players in the AHL but playing 20 minutes a game and getting ample PP time?

 

[HanSolo]

Personally I don't think he's too good for the AHL by any stretch of the imagination, but his speed and elusive skating allows him to handle the NHL well enough to the point where it's probably better for him if he stays up in major pro. Etem always plays better the more comfortable he is at a certain level. And we've been seeing that lately. His speed helps him create some terrific chances. He's been snake-bitten, but he's got the mind of a scorer, the production is gonna come I'd think. He just needs to keep working.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

wrong year to be saying etem is better than cogs. cogs has been absolutely lights out for us this year.

im glad that people are ok with etem being a competent NHL'er and a good PK'er. but guess what, that scoring prowess he showed in the juniors has not come to fruition here in the NHL, nor in the AHL either.

he's not playing against "inferior" opponents in the AHL. the opponents in the AHL become inferior when you can basically dance around them and score whenever you want to score. When getzlaf and perry got moved up to the big club, THAT was when the AHL was inferior competition.

Etem hasn't even put up good numbers in the AHL yet, and to be honest hasn't really scored much at all and people are already saying he's too good for the AHL. This guy is going to be a great goal scorer for the ducks and a top-6 offensive threat. Leaving him up here right now to play a 4th line role with PK minutes is what we did to DSP last year and so far that's really shown to have not worked out.

his last stint in the AHL was good, and since he's not a 1 dimensional player he is helping us now. we aren't a very fast team overall, him and cogs give us a boost there

 

[bumperkisser]

I don't think playing against inferior goaltenders is going to help him, and I really hate the offense in Norfolk enough to think that he's not going to learn anything with more minutes down there - till at least some of that looted talent is replenished. He's snakebit, but he seems to find scoring chances in every game. I'm sure he'll see power play opportunities as the season goes on. I'm sure Bruce will work him in slowly as he has with the PK unit. Count me as voting with the status quo on this one. I see definite progress.

to your newly edited post. I'm wondering if they are inferior goaltenders. then he should be lighting them up and posting up some pretty solid numbers. when palms came into the AHL last year he was fairly dominant. we've yet to see that from etem. an extra year in the AHL isn't a bad thing

 

[Vinegar Strokes]

The big question is does he learn more and become the scoring threat the Ducks drafted him to be by playing 4th line minutes with some PK time or by playing against less talented players in the AHL but playing 20 minutes a game and getting ample PP time?

It's definitely a tough question, and obviously there's people on both sides of the fence. But I really think he's better off learning from the great NHLers that are currently on this team, rather than playing in offensive situations in the AHL.

 

[bumperkisser]

That doesn't translate to him being too good for the AHL, that translate to he'll be better off developing and learning from the superior competition in the NHL.

The second was clearly his attempt to say that while Cogs is the better player right now, Etem might be more naturally gifted, "skill" not better than.

Once again, reading comprehension.

really. how was that CLEAR. explain to me how my interpretation was not just as logical as yours. no where did he state what you stated, you interpreted it your way which is a BUNCH of reading in between the lines, while mine is reading what's ACTUALLY written and interpreting that. I have no problem with your interpretations, I just have a problem with you and your high horse and insulting other people when they didn't interpret it your way.

when other people have also quoted their post and questioned it a bit then they clarify it shows that what they've said is unclear. There's no need to be a dick about it and insult other people

 

[Professor John Frink]

his last stint in the AHL was good, and since he's not a 1 dimensional player he is helping us now. we aren't a very fast team overall, him and cogs give us a boost there

But you need to look past this season and ask yourself what type of player do you want Etem to be in the long run?

I find it hard to believe a guy like Bodie or Macmillan couldn't do that exact same job Etem is doing right now. Let him learn to dominate in the AHL as a scorer before we put him in a NHL role. As of now it seems like the Ducks are molding him into a 3rd line PKer. Don't think that is what the Ducks drafted him to be.