Value of: Edmonton 1st+1 forward prospect+1D prospect+cap dump
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ManofSteel55
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The D has to either be a legit #1, or a 1st or 2nd pair right shooting powerplay puck mover.
Our available cap dumps are Sekera, Russell, and Lucic, but all of them have the Chiarelli special (NT or NM clauses).
Wait, so the deal is:
From Edmonton:
2018 1st (7-10 overall)
Forward prospect
Defensive prospect
Cap dump
From other team:
Top pairing defenseman
Top 6 winger
Back-up goalie
Unless I'm misreading this, that seems kind of nuts.
Starat327
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Oilers are offering a chance to really go ALL IN on your rebuild. These opportunities dont come around very often!
The the NTC make it a tough go . But I am bored with out the Oilers in the playoffs so trying to get my Oilers fix
You misread what he said . He said top pairing or 2nd paring . As the OP I was thinking more a #3D PPQB RS
I think a package of
1st
Yamamoto
Jones
Sekera who could bounce back and I expect him to but if we are adding a D he is most likely the D you move to open up a spot
Has decent value
A back up goalie isn't that costly to acquire . The D is the most costly part . But I think there good value in the package
Yeah, I did misread that. This still seems like a real hard sell though. That's two useful, established NHL players (two of them potentially "core" players), and the only NHL player coming back is the cap dump?
Maybe if the top-6 wing and the defenseman were veteran types from a team looking to rebuild?
ManofSteel55
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It is a hard sell, and its likely going to have to involve multiple moves rather than one. I expect Chiarelli to trade our 1st round pick for the right d-man, trade one of our d-men (probably Klefbom, as sad as that is) for a scoring winger, not do a damn thing about a backup (even though he needs to), and strike out trying to sign a winger like Grabner because we don't have the space to pay him.
Agree on your first two needs but I'd change the back up goalie to a starting goalie.
LTIR
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beggers cant be choosers. Talbot will have to do as starter in EDM unless Chia finds a way to dump Lucic\Sekera contracts on someone
ElPrimeTime
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I want Nyquist.
Conditional 2nd (Becomes a first if the Oilers sign him or trade him at the deadline) + A prospect
Conditional 2nd (Becomes a first if the Oilers sign him or trade him at the deadline) + A prospect
BleedBlue14
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The issue is you are targeting positions a lot of rebuilding teams need, all the while focusing the package based around pieces to drop further into a rebuild. Every team in the league wants to make a trade like that to get into the playoffs. Unless there are extenuating circumstances pushing those positions out of the door generally they are not traded. If they are traded they are generally traded in hockey trades. You can maybe focus on a Yamamoto + 1st area for Hoffman type of trade. You can also maybe focus on that sort of a trade to MTL for Pacioretty.
ChaoticOrange
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I don’t see any scenario where a guy like Hoffman returns a top ten pick and Yamamoto. That’s an absolutely wild overpayment - hoffman only had 22 goals this past season and that’s with Erik Karlsson feeding him outlet passes.
LTIR
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rebuilding teams would not be as willing to give up their 1st nor players like Yamamoto for short term improvement.
Chia is pretty much fired if he doesnt make the Oilers a 100pt team next year.
as for the ask for Myers, he wouldnt net WPG a top 10 pick for sure... 2nd + Benning\Prospect perhaps
TheGoldenGod
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Wait....you're asking for top 6 forward, a top 4 dman, a back up goalie + asking for this team to accept a salary dump?
Bro....who are these prospects ?
Bro....who are these prospects ?
BleedBlue14
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While I agree, what I'm getting at is there are very few teams that wan to push back further into a rebuild willingly during the offseason. Unless someone believes Yamamoto is NHL ready and the Oilers pick is someone who contribute closer to their time frame it's tough to make a trade like that. Buffalo maybe could as well but I don't see any way they ship out a d man.
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WingsMJN2965
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How generous of you! Thanks!
I'll have you know that Jonathan Ericsson was our best defender this year.
... Which tells you all you need to know about our defense.
GregSirico
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I really don't think there's a point in imagining the Oilers trading Sekera. He had a down year and that's mostly because he missed a good part of the start of the season due to injury. He'll be a much better player next year and his value will go back up after that and it might make sense to ask him to waive his NMC then.
No chance of this happening . Anyway with our cap we can not afford JH contract when we have other needs
BlueBaron
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Quick fixes and trading their top winger prospects seems counter productive. They need cheap controlled players.
Trading their first is folly.
Chiapet will probably burn their future to save his job but with their Cap situation I think that's a big mistake.
Trading their first is folly.
Chiapet will probably burn their future to save his job but with their Cap situation I think that's a big mistake.
