Nusre was among the top 10 or close to the 5th dman in ES scoring. He is still coming along. It's hilarious. It's like there is a rule that you have to go get this type of player first or that type of player. A puck mover is a BIG need on the Oilers.
Confirmed Signing with Link: [EDM] Tyson Barrie signs with the Oilers (1 year, $3.75M)
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A few notes on your post:
1. Draisaitl was not a + player. He was in fact the first player in over 30 years to win the art ross and not be a + player.
2. You are correct on the issue of depth scoring causing those guys to cheat offensively I think. But the fact remains you need them to play both ends.
3. Of course their offense makes up for their poor defensive play, but I'd argue McDavid should be the biggest win driver in the league based on both his talent and his contract. In my opinion he isn't that.
I have been catching up on this thread and this guys fear just oozes out of the screen lol. Relax man. Oilers already tarred and feathered the Flames a few times without Barrie...
Avs fan here.
I was critical of Barrie while he was on the Avs but the guy is one of the most offensively talented Dmen in the league and fantastic at carrying the puck. He will be dynamic on the Oilers PP. We just didn't need him anymore and he Was redundant with Makar and Girard.
He is absolutely horrendous in his own zone and infront of the net and will have to be paired with a very solid stay at home Dman. I'm not sure Edm has a guy to pair him with ti shelter his defensive deficiencies.
But for that money it's a no brainer. Barrie is going to a team full of offense and not worried about D. He should put up 40-45 points if he gets PP1 minutes and will look to rebuild his image and sign a bigger deal nwxt year.
I was talking ES. Also, Drai was on the ice for 9/10 empty net goals. That is a factor. Anyways, there is absolutely nothing negative about adding a puck mover. Not everydman has to be a Peitro back there, You need a mix and balance. We don't have a good balance still, but Rome was not built overnight.
On the topic at hand. Barrie was a good, low risk signing for Holland. Good value for sure. That said, you need someone to play the tough Klefbom minutes. That will be critical to not wasting another year of a generational talent.
+/- only factors even strength.
You're right. Barrie was a good add. You need one hard minutes guy still I think. I like what Holland has done this off-season. He's filling as many holes as he can with short term flexible deals. You can also flip Barrie at the tdl if the season goes sideways for a 2nd rounder I would think.
The Oilers did have a top 10 GA in 2017 season with McDavid and Draisaitl leading the way.
The problem was Chiarelli was a moron and gutted the offensive depth of the team to the point where it was a 1 line team and the coaches refused to break up the 1 line.
Now Holland has started to rebuild the offensive support so I think McDavid and Draisaitl don't have to feel like they must carry the entire offense and things I suspect will normalize.
When only one line scores and the score in the game is 0-1 or 2-3 you have to push to score. Thank goodness Chia is gone.
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He was a plus player at 5-on-5 and even strength. He finished -7 overall because he was -4 when a team had an empty net and -10 when a team scored a shorthanded goal.
Ah ok. I see what you're saying. I know he got caved in big time 5 on 5 when he wasn't playing with RNH. RNH is a very underrated defensive player. I maintain my point that your two stars need to be better 5 on 5 to win.
And I get the argument that they cheat because there's no depth. But that doesn't help you win games. It just helps them win individual trophies. Part of the reason the team lacks depth is depth is hard to get when you have a couple of bad contracts and 2 guys combining for 21 million in cap.
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Huge Tyson Barrie fan. 3.75 is a fricken steal.
I will say that if Tippett doesn’t allow Barrie to skate the puck, and instead wants him to be a glorified puck pusher to mcdavid & drai, gonna be a bad time
I will say that if Tippett doesn’t allow Barrie to skate the puck, and instead wants him to be a glorified puck pusher to mcdavid & drai, gonna be a bad time
Don't forget one of the world's largest salt deposits about 300 KM south.
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Holland and the coaching staff met after the Dec. 27 game when the Flames embarrassed the Oilers. That was when they decided to call up Yamamoto and put Draisaitl on his own line. Him + McDavid together at 5-on-5 were -12 in December.
I agree there needs to be more defensive commitment from both players. They both got better when they were on their own lines. Hopefully the play-in vs Chicago and seeing how Toews played helps them.
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Leafs fans crying over him...
Leafs fans crying over him...
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Its partly the coaching staffs fault for not wanting to break up the line. The Oilers always should have played the Pittsburgh style setup.
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Hilarious seeing all the Leafs fans in here who a year ago were claiming they won the Kadri trade and also thought Kerfoot was basically as good as Kadri. Now after one season of watching Barrie they're the experts on him and act like people in the West didn't see him for years in Colorado. He's always had some defensive shortcomings but he's elite offensively and is exactly what Edmonton needs.
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It’s a guy who signed a one year deal on an up and coming team, this is his “I’ll show the league what I can do” contract. It could be 1yr/10 million and it still wouldn’t be that bad of a contract.... why? Because it’s for a single season and it’s most likely a shortened season at that. He knows that if he can’t look good playing with McDavid/Draisaitl that he’s pretty much done in this league
Not surprise he went to edm, best chance to big money after next season. Playing on PP with 2 of the best forward in the game
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Yeah, it's almost as if people forget that Chia happened to this team or had a great time either pulling their hair out or laughing hysterically at the idiotic moves he made and this was just at the tail end of last year that he was fired. Holland just ridding the Oilers of Lucic was a miracle in itself.
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While the cap hit is great, he doesn't improve the Oilers with their big issues, which is defence and goaltending. They don't struggle to score so Barrie doens't move the needle a lot on that, and he is decently bad in his own end. Also, they bring back Smith, which might as well be a white flag raising moment for them, on top of Kenny even talking to Jimmy Howard before the Smith re-signing.
Well Tyson Barrie quite clearly helps with defense.
For goaltending what they had to do is play Koskinen more. Koskinen .917 Smith .902 but they played Smith more than Koskinen. That's the issue.
