Proposal: EDM/SEA

[ChaoticOrange]

Hello Krakheads,

Looking ahead a bit to the trade deadline, I think these two teams could be a good fit with each other. Edmonton still needs to shore up a little bit on the wing and on LD, and I think Seattle will be after draft capital.

Is this offer within the realm of reason if Seattle doesn't have a shot at the playoffs this year:

To Edmonton

LD Carson Soucy (1 year at 2.75 after this year)
C/W Mason Appleton (RFA after this year)

To Seattle

2022 1st round pick
2023 3rd round pick
C Kyle Turris (UFA after this year)

If not, what else does Edmonton need to add?

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[PROUD PAPA]

Seattle could likely do just as well picks wise for Soucy and Appleton without eating a cap dump.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Seattle could likely do just as well picks wise for Soucy and Appleton without eating a cap dump.

It would be ~20 games of Turris by the TDL. I'm not sure Soucy would return a first on his own.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Francis says yes

 

[TFHockey]

Hello Krakheads,

Looking ahead a bit to the trade deadline, I think these two teams could be a good fit with each other. Edmonton still needs to shore up a little bit on the wing and on LD, and I think Seattle will be after draft capital.

Is this offer within the realm of reason if Seattle doesn't have a shot at the playoffs this year:

To Edmonton

LD Carson Soucy (1 year at 2.75 after this year)
C/W Mason Appleton (RFA after this year)

To Seattle

2022 1st round pick
2023 3rd round pick
C Kyle Turris (UFA after this year)

If not, what else does Edmonton need to add?

You read my mind, I actually started and stopped another proposed trade as an all-in deal for Edmonton. I wanted Eberle and Dunn as well, but could not find a way to include them under the cap.

I think your trade is probably slanted in Seattle's favor. Neither of those players is worth a 1st. People will probably complain anyway.

Seattle could likely do just as well picks wise for Soucy and Appleton without eating a cap dump.

Yup, there it is.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Seattle could likely do just as well picks wise for Soucy and Appleton without eating a cap dump.

A quarter season of a 1.6 million cap hit which 2/3 of can be buried? Most contenders are going to need cap space to make additions. Turris is about as easy a cap dump there is to absorb.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I could see this as a basis of a trade for sure, I think the value is pretty close to reality and if Seattle doesn't want to eat Turris's salary I'm sure Edmonton wouldn't have much of a problem attaching a small add to someone else to take him

Just because I'm a Devils fan let say for the sake of argument the Oilers send Turris + 3rd 2023 to NJ for future considerations
Then makes the Seattle trade with Benson in it instead of Turris so its a 1st+3rd in 2022 + Benson for Soucy and Appleton

Thoughts?

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I could see this as a basis of a trade for sure, I think the value is pretty close to reality and if Seattle doesn't want to eat Turris's salary I'm sure Edmonton wouldn't have much of a problem attaching a small add to someone else to take him

Just because I'm a Devils fan let say for the sake of argument the Oilers send Turris + 3rd 2023 to NJ for future considerations
Then makes the Seattle trade with Benson in it instead of Turris so its a 1st+3rd in 2022 + Benson for Soucy and Appleton

Thoughts?

Wouldn’t trade a 3rd to dump what remains of Turris 1.6 at the deadline. It’s like 400,000. A 4th is pushing it but likely doable to get a deal done.

Turris at the deadline might even be an option for waivers. A contender without cap space with a few injuries might pick him up for free.

 

[spaghtti]

I could see this as a basis of a trade for sure, I think the value is pretty close to reality and if Seattle doesn't want to eat Turris's salary I'm sure Edmonton wouldn't have much of a problem attaching a small add to someone else to take him

Just because I'm a Devils fan let say for the sake of argument the Oilers send Turris + 3rd 2023 to NJ for future considerations
Then makes the Seattle trade with Benson in it instead of Turris so its a 1st+3rd in 2022 + Benson for Soucy and Appleton

Thoughts?

I think the draft pick going to NJ is too high, if the cap hit was higher and it was the start of the season you might be able to get a 3rd

also I doubt that the Oilers view Turris and Benson as being equal in value

 

[Ragdoll]

Not sure why taking back Turris is such a cause for commotion, it’s pretty much a given that a smaller contract like this needs to be involved in deals to make money work. He has a 1.65m cap hit and it expires at the end of the year, in what world would that cost a 3rd to trade?

Trade value is pretty good here though, seems like a fit for both teams.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I think the draft pick going to NJ is too high, if the cap hit was higher and it was the start of the season you might be able to get a 3rd

also I doubt that the Oilers view Turris and Benson as being equal in value

Ya I missed the deadline part of the OP. So a 3rd might be too high, as for Benson vs Turris neither player is in the Oilers long term plans and would be expendable

 

[Double Dion]

Appleton is a way better player than most people realize. He's a target I have for the Flames. I would guess he comes close to returning a 1st alone. Probably similar for Soucy.

Both players would be good fits in Edmonton. So naturally I'm opposed to it.

 

[Fisticuffer]

Not sure why taking back Turris is such a cause for commotion,

Don’t see much of a commotion.
As a Seattle fan I’m kind of indifferent.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Appleton may have upside, but he's not the deadline acquisition we need for the 3C slot. Does he bring much more than McCleod at this stage?

Soucy on the other hand could be a great add for the back end for now and the future.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Appleton is a way better player than most people realize. He's a target I have for the Flames. I would guess he comes close to returning a 1st alone. Probably similar for Soucy.

Both players would be good fits in Edmonton. So naturally I'm opposed to it.

I’m counting on Seattle not really knowing what they have there, he’s very good but because he’s been hurt maybe they’re not fully aware of that.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

If I'm paying a 1st+3rd to Seattle I'd be asking for McCann

 

[Spawn]

Seems like a lot to give up for a 4/5 d-man and a 4th line C.

 

[HoseEmDown]

In a vacuum the value is fair. I just don't think Seattle wants to trade a 25 and 27 year old who they probably see as nice pieces moving forward. So I don't think they would want to move them for futures, they probably prefer to move older players and pending UFA's. So guys like Jankrok, Johansson and Giordano for picks would be more realistic.

 

[spaghtti]

Ya I missed the deadline part of the OP. So a 3rd might be too high, as for Benson vs Turris neither player is in the Oilers long term plans and would be expendable

Who said Benson isn’t part of the long term plan, he is young and was protected in the expansion draft

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Who said Benson isn’t part of the long term plan, he is young and was protected in the expansion draft

I don't see it, I guess maybe they do but I don't.
He's too slow for the NHL, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Spawn]

Who said Benson isn’t part of the long term plan, he is young and was protected in the expansion draft

No he wasn't.

Benson is more likely to hit waivers than be part of the Oilers long term plan at this point.

 

[IIxGURUxII]

Hello Krakheads,

Looking ahead a bit to the trade deadline, I think these two teams could be a good fit with each other. Edmonton still needs to shore up a little bit on the wing and on LD, and I think Seattle will be after draft capital.

Is this offer within the realm of reason if Seattle doesn't have a shot at the playoffs this year:

To Edmonton

LD Carson Soucy (1 year at 2.75 after this year)
C/W Mason Appleton (RFA after this year)

To Seattle

2022 1st round pick
2023 3rd round pick
C Kyle Turris (UFA after this year)

If not, what else does Edmonton need to add?

A wee expensive.. but I'd do this everyday

 

[spaghtti]

No he wasn't.

Benson is more likely to hit waivers than be part of the Oilers long term plan at this point.

I stand corrected, he wasn’t protected

 

[Legion34]

If I'm paying a 1st+3rd to Seattle I'd be asking for McCann

you literally could have had him for a c prospect and a 7th