Confirmed Trade: [EDM/NJD] Dmitry Kulikov for 2022 cond. 3rd/4th round pick

[Hockey Fanatik]

We don't have a third or a second.

In 2022 you do

 

[HBK27]

Probably more like a conditional 3rd imo that could fall to a 4th. But maybe that it I'd 2022 indicates it's a 2nd since we don't have one this year. Better be a good condition in that case

Don't think I've ever seen a conditional pick that could get worse if the conditions are met...

 

[QuizGuy66]

NHL Network says 'not quite done' so maybe they are ironing out the conditions

 

[Traitor Zach]

Solid pickup for the Oilers. Kulikov came in and played hard despite taking significant/tight pay for one season - bet on himself and surmise he will get a multi-year deal now provided he holds up with Oilers. Playoff teams need depth guys like this - he won't bring offense, but he'll play a technically sound game, put in a little physicality too. Just have to make sure you use him with right partner.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

NHL Network says 'not quite done' so maybe they are ironing out the conditions

Or someone else is jumping in late...

 

[Mr Positive]

Don't think I've ever seen a conditional pick that could get worse if the conditions are met...

Yes well whichever way you say it. A 4th that becomes a third then

 

[QuizGuy66]

Don't think I've ever seen a conditional pick that could get worse if the conditions are met...

There have been conditions where a pick doesn't convey unless conditions are met though - happens once in a while

 

[thethinglonger]

Good advanced metrics, curious to see the pick.

These metrics certainly support the eye test for Kulikov this season. He's been excellent in the defensive role. Very curious about the return as well.

 

[Oilslick941611]

The hell? Is this thread full of sarcasm or is he like the best shutdown defender in the league or something?

2 points in 38 games, yikes.

Well. He’s a defender not a forward

 

[Wretched Oil]

NHL Network says 'not quite done' so maybe they are ironing out the conditions

Probably just going for league approval.

 

[5 14 6 1]

Solid pickup for the Oilers. Kulikov came in and played hard despite taking significant/tight pay for one season - bet on himself and surmise he will get a multi-year deal now provided he holds up with Oilers. Playoff teams need depth guys like this - he won't bring offense, but he'll play a technically sound game, put in a little physicality too. Just have to make sure you use him with right partner.

Who did he play with in NJ?

 

[GRadio]

The hell? Is this thread full of sarcasm or is he like the best shutdown defender in the league or something?

2 points in 38 games, yikes.

The Oilers don’t need points from their defense. They need defense from their defense.

 

[Hockey Fanatik]

There have been conditions where a pick doesn't convey unless conditions are met though - happens once in a while

Pretty sure those can only be for 'future asset' type deals

not actually established assets

 

[snipes]

yes, he can he's been one of the few bright spots in NJ

Yeah he seems to be getting a lot of love from Devils fans.

Again, he doesn’t need to be a world beater or big offensive guy, just a solid and steady veteran presence in our middle/bottom pairing on the left side.

 

[Joe Sakic]

Well. He’s a defender not a forward

Are the best defenders in the league the ones who produce the fewest points?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

If i thought we'd play him over Russell i wouldn't hate this, but our bottom 4 is going to be three guys that can't move the puck and Ethan Bear now. I'm not sure that's a recipe for success.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Are the best defenders in the league the ones who produce the fewest points?

The oilers don’t need another offensive dman.

 

[TrufleShufle]

Are the best defenders in the league the ones who produce the fewest points?

Logical leap.

 

[joestevens29]

Are the best defenders in the league the ones who produce the fewest points?

We have #4 and #12 in points from a d-man already. We have a lot of youth on our backend and could use another stable defender. Depending on the price I like this trade.

 

[Ctrain2k]

Who did he play with in NJ?

Just looked at the toi and mostly Subban.

 

[Mez]

Are the best defenders in the league the ones who produce the fewest points?

My goodness dude, is it so hard to understand that the Oilers need a stay at home D instead of an offensive defenseman? No one is saying hes the best, he is a good depth guy.

 

[Wretched Oil]

Are the best defenders in the league the ones who produce the fewest points?

Are points the most important metric for defensemen?

 

[Joe Sakic]

Logical leap.

Nobody is leaping, asking a question not making a statement. You know that.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

hes a solid bottom pairing guy that can play up if needed. I always liked him on the Jets

 

[bucks_oil]

Where are the conditions of the 2nd

guessing it turns into a 1st if they
Make the conf finals or something

Sorry, but there are no circumstances under which Kulikov becomes worth a 1st. I could see maybe, maybe a conditional third, that upgrades to a 2nd (in a future draft) if the Oil made the FINALS (not the semifinal).

A 2nd would be a big price to pay for a 2nd tier shutdown D, no matter how well he's playing this year. (in my mind, being an elite shutdown D is all about demonstrating years of consistency and mistake-free hockey... and Kulikov has been a bit of a late bloomer in that regard, so hard to justify significant value at the deadline)