Series Talk: ECSF: (A1)Toronto Maple Leafs vs (A3)Florida Panthers - (Series tied 3-3) Part 2

[Ratsreign]

I bet tie would beat up keith

Butterbean would pound him like a can of beer!

 

[Laus723]

To say sam bennett will fight is replying with Benoit. Benoit fight above his weight so he'd probably be OK against Bennett. My point is nobody is afraid of these guys. They're not a tom Wilson or lucic type guy

Benoit-Bennett would be a good fight imo.

Gadjovich is definitely someone they’re afraid of. Go back and watch Lundell put Benoit into the boards. Benoit skates over and has words until Gadjo shows up, Benoit can’t get away fast enough.

 

[Gjman2019]

To me and I am sure this will be shouted down, Florida has taken over the NZ, we are back to keeping the correct gaps, and knocking pucks down at the blueline, when we are going good, that is a staple of the system we play. Helps to turn the play back up ice and allows us to quickly get in on the forecheck.

The forecheck is wearing the Leafs D down, and they are now hearing footsteps.

This is a very good assesment but nobody will break the will of guys like Tanev McCabe and Carlo.....Florida might win the series but no way they intimidate those guys......

 

[Ratsreign]

I know the Panthers forecheck was punishing, but holy shit, the Leafs D are getting crushed. Just relentless. Poor Tanev is taking a beating.

The funny thing is, the Leafs were really capitalizing with the odd man rushes in the first few games, and were even finding success with their own crash and bang forecheck. For some reason, that seemed to change last night. Did PMo adapt? Was the D using the half wall to get the puck out quicker? I know the hits were a lot closer last night, but the Leafs just didn't seem to have to same space as in Games 1-3, especially with the odd man rushes.

Or is it just me?

Panthers were a just lot better at preventing it last night. They were snuffing things out at Leafs blue line / neutral zone much better than previously. The Panthers actually got to “their game” last night for the first time this series. Their forecheck was way more productive last night.

 

[Chaos2k7]

This is a very good assesment but nobody will break the will of guys like Tanev McCabe and Carlo.....Florida might win the series but no way they intimidate those guys......

All due respect, but Bs fans would be happy to tell you how Carlo will hold up from previous series'.

Not well.

Tanev is Tanev but he is being focused on more than any other D in the playoffs. And the rep of Jake McCabe is only high on HFLeafs from my experience.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

Benoit-Bennett would be a good fight imo.

Gadjovich is definitely someone they’re afraid of. Go back and watch Lundell put Benoit into the boards. Benoit skates over and has words until Gadjo shows up, Benoit can’t get away fast enough.

Not sure of the playoffs in question. But Benoit fought Olivier in a 4-0 game for Toronto. No reason to fight the best fighter (if we can agree that olivier is the best fighter )but he did. So I seriously doubt he was scared of Gadjovich

 

[whawhawhat]

Kermit is a muppet, not a puppet. At least get the smack talk right.....

To be accurate Kermit is a puppet. A "Muppet”, is a trademarked name, refers to puppets descended from Jim’s originals that are created for Sesame Workshop and appear on Sesame Street or are owned by Disney

So in fact Kermit is a muppet that is just a puppet.

So the smack is accurate and funny.

 

[Ratsreign]

To be accurate Kermit is a puppet. A Muppet”, is a trademarked name, refers to puppets descended from Jim’s originals that are created for Sesame Workshop and appear on Sesame Street or are owned by Disney

My bad, then. Gracias for that info.
But it’s operated by pulling strings, not a hand stuck inside of it, I think

 

[Laus723]

Not sure of the playoffs in question. But Benoit fought Olivier in a 4-0 game for Toronto. No reason to fight the best fighter (if we can agree that olivier is the best fighter )but he did. So I seriously doubt he was scared of Gadjovich

Yes, Olivier is the current champ. That fight Olivier did t give Benoit a lot of ways out of it. Tangled up in the corner, Olivier wrapped him up and said let’s go. Good on Benoit, but neither guy did much. You’ll have to ask Benoit why he skated away after Gadjovich got involved, but he did.

 

[whawhawhat]

My bad, then. Gracias for that info.
But it’s operated by pulling strings, not a hand stuck inside of it, I think

It's actually both. Hands and rods. The puppeteer's dominant hand goes inside the Muppet's head to control the mouth and often facial features, while the other hand, or a rod, is used to manipulate the Muppet's arms. Some Muppets, like Big Bird, are larger and require a harness and two puppeteers for full control.

I think his joke would have been even funnier if the person's avatar was big bird. But he gave a good "smack talk" with what he had.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Where is @FinlandPanther in all of this? This thread needs you, I’m turning the batsignal on

 

[Contenderorpretender]

Yes, Olivier is the current champ. That fight Olivier did t give Benoit a lot of ways out of it. Tangled up in the corner, Olivier wrapped him up and said let’s go. Good on Benoit, but neither guy did much. You’ll have to ask Benoit why he skated away after Gadjovich got involved, but he did.

Well. It wouldn't be a good trade off for the leafs.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

It's actually both. Hands and rods. The puppeteer's dominant hand goes inside the Muppet's head to control the mouth and often facial features, while the other hand, or a rod, is used to manipulate the Muppet's arms. Some Muppets, like Big Bird, are larger and require a harness and two puppeteers for full control.

I think his joke would have been even funnier if the person's avatar was big bird. But he gave a good "smack talk" with what he had.

What is going on with you lol.

 

[Laus723]

Well. It wouldn't be a good trade off for the leafs.

Nor is losing Lundell

 

[Magic Man]

Benoit dropped them with Deslauriers and Olivier. He is willing but limited in fighting ability. If he fights Gadjovich there should be a reason for it, his odds of winning aren't great, the momentum could go the wrong way.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

 

[Delete1]

My dad could beat up your dad!

For your father's sake, I hope so. My dad is 93.

 

[Bruin]

Because there is no momentum from game to game in a series. How many people said St. Louis would beat Winnipeg after game 4 of that series? Florida still gives up a lot of odd-man rushes to the Leafs, and I think the leafs will take advantage of that, especially on home ice.

They haven’t taken advantage of it yet, now all of a sudden they will? Not seeing it, they were up 2 games to none and now it’s tied, they’ll be gripping their sticks a little tighter on Wednesday.

 

[Summer Rose]

To be accurate Kermit is a puppet. A "Muppet”, is a trademarked name, refers to puppets descended from Jim’s originals that are created for Sesame Workshop and appear on Sesame Street or are owned by Disney

So in fact Kermit is a muppet that is just a puppet.

So the smack is accurate and funny.

So what you're saying is... all Muppets are puppets, but not all puppets are Muppets. Kermit is both!

 

[Delete1]

They haven’t taken advantage of it yet, now all of a sudden they will? Not seeing it, they were up 2 games to none and now it’s tied, they’ll be gripping their sticks a little tighter on Wednesday.

They absolutely took advantage of it in games 1 through 3.

 

[ToDavid]

Curious what this has to do with this series?

Well apparently talking about it in any context whatsoever runs afoul of the rules. In my opinion it’s no different than anything else that gets discussed in these threads.

 

[pb1300]

I know the Panthers forecheck was punishing, but holy shit, the Leafs D are getting crushed. Just relentless. Poor Tanev is taking a beating.

The funny thing is, the Leafs were really capitalizing with the odd man rushes in the first few games, and were even finding success with their own crash and bang forecheck. For some reason, that seemed to change last night. Did PMo adapt? Was the D using the half wall to get the puck out quicker? I know the hits were a lot closer last night, but the Leafs just didn't seem to have to same space as in Games 1-3, especially with the odd man rushes.

Or is it just me?

Because that is what the Panthers do. They pound the shit of the D, and have such a relentless forecheck, that if the opponent makes it to game 7, they have very little left.



As the series goes on, the Leafs D is taking the most punishment, forcing them into mistakes or moving the puck quicker than they want. That, along with the Panthers play in the neutral zone, makes it harder for the Leafs to get anything going. On the flip side of that, that Panthers style of play has also opened up opportunities for odd man rushes and breakaways, for oppents, which we’ve seen in this series, and in the past.

 

[Laus723]

Because that is what the Panthers do. They pound the shit of the D, and have such a relentless forecheck, that if the opponent makes it to game 7, they have very little left.



As the series goes on, the Leafs D is taking the most punishment, forcing them into mistakes or moving the puck quicker than they want. That, along with the Panthers play in the neutral zone, makes it harder for the Leafs to get anything going. On the flip side of that, that Panthers style of play has also opened up opportunities for odd man rushes and breakaways, which we’ve seen in this series, and in the past.

Yup. We pound your D. All. Night. Long. All series.

 

[AvroArrow]

Yup. We pound your D. All. Night. Long. All series.

Can't say I'm shocked.

 

[The Management]

At this point, and after so much disappointment, there's no right or wrong reaction from a Leafs fan.

For me? The Leafs are like Wile E. Coyote. Just when you think they're going to spring a trap on the Roadrunner, they either step on a rake or an anvil precipitously falls out of the sky and hits them in the head. Each season, the same cruel joke. The coyote chases the road runner, but always falls off a cliff. Tom thinks he's got Jerry by the tail, but it's a stick of dynamite. Entertainment for the booger-eating children who laugh at you.

If you've ever found yourself hoping Sylvester the Cat would eat that stupid bird, just one time, then you've had a small, tiny nibble of what it's like to be a fan of the Toronto Maple Leafs.

We'll see what happens in the next game, but boy, it's rough to be a fan sometimes.