Dunn Deal: Vince Dunn signs 1-year $1.875 million extension

[Reality Czech]

I just noticed this online and didn't see a thread. So I created one! Nice to have that taken care of!

Dunn agrees to terms on one-year deal

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[Bye Bye Blueston]

I just noticed this online and didn't see a thread. So I created one! Nice to have that taken care of!

Dunn agrees to terms on one-year deal

More than I thought. But not bad.

 

[Zezel’s Pretzels]

The fact that it’s a one year deal makes me think we’re prepping to lose him in the expansion draft. But hey, load up this year and give it a run.

 

[Reality Czech]

The fact that it’s a one year deal makes me think we’re prepping to lose him in the expansion draft. But hey, load up this year and give it a run.

Or at the very least there isn't interest in signing him long-term right now, which shouldn't be a huge surprise. But after listening to an Armstrong interview a few weeks ago he seemed adament that he sees Dunn as a vital part of this team, and it didn't just seem like lip service to me.

 

[Zezel’s Pretzels]

Or at the very least there isn't interest in signing him long-term right now, which shouldn't be a huge surprise. But after listening to an Armstrong interview a few weeks ago he seemed adament that he sees Dunn as a vital part of this team, and it didn't just seem like lip service to me.

Yeah, agreed. “If I were DA”, I would protect Parayko, Krug, and Dunn and hope that Faulk or Scandella is Seattle’s choice. Keep Dunn and stay younger and cheaper on the blue line.

 

[Zezel’s Pretzels]

So if Vladi comes back and Hoffman gets what is rumored, how much will we have to trade in season to be compliant?

 

[Reality Czech]

Yeah, agreed. “If I were DA”, I would protect Parayko, Krug, and Dunn and hope that Faulk or Scandella is Seattle’s choice. Keep Dunn and stay younger and cheaper on the blue line.

I could see that, although I have my doubts where Dunn fits in long-term with Krug and Perunovich being similar type players and Mikkola coming up. He could be a potentially nice trade piece to get something back in the future, but no rush to make a decision on his future yet. I am definitely curious to see how the rest of the defense steps up in Petro's absence and I'd like to see Dunn show that he's taken a step forward this year. I didn't really see that last year.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

The fact that it’s a one year deal makes me think we’re prepping to lose him in the expansion draft. But hey, load up this year and give it a run.

I don’t see that. They want to keep this years hit down and make him show he is top 4 guy before paying him as such.

 

[tfriede2]

The fact that it’s a one year deal makes me think we’re prepping to lose him in the expansion draft. But hey, load up this year and give it a run.

He doesn’t have a contract though for the following year, so the Blues don’t have to protect him (unless he’s signed before the expansion draft)...this could be a shrewd move by DA to keep Dunn and not expose him. (Unless there are different expansion draft rules for RFAs...I can’t recall). And, what was said above - trying to keep cap hit down for this year.

Edit: I’m probably wrong - RFAs can be selected in the expansion draft.

 

[Zezel’s Pretzels]

He doesn’t have a contract though for the following year though, so the Blues don’t have to protect him (unless he’s signed before the expansion draft)...this could be a shrewd move by DA to keep Dunn and not expose him. (Unless there are different expansion draft rules for RFAs...I can’t recall).

It is different for RFA’s. Still under a team’s control.

 

[tfriede2]

It is different for RFA’s. Still under a team’s control.

You’re right, thanks

 

[Falco Lombardi]

Meh wanted to trade him. At least he’s cheap.

Can’t believe we really gonna skate a team against the likes of Colorado that has half the d core made up of Torey Krug, Justin Faulk, and Vince Dunn though.

 

[mike1320]

Meh wanted to trade him. At least he’s cheap.

Can’t believe we really gonna skate a team against the likes of Colorado that has half the d core made up of Torey Krug, Justin Faulk, and Vince Dunn though.

I can't believe that people have zero faith in a team that hasn't even broke training camp.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

I can't believe that people have zero faith in a team that hasn't even broke training camp.

So any criticism is zero faith then? Perhaps you just have blind faith hmmm?

It’s perfectly acceptable to question the make up of the team. I didn’t condemn the team. The Blues have been successful playing largely one way for almost a decade. Now they’re trying to completely change that. It’s fair to question it

 

[Celtic Note]

I agree with those who say our defending ability is not great, but Dunn, Krug and Faulk are not bad defensively if they are not asked to play beyond their capabilities. That may be tricky with this team as constructed.

Regardless, I think Dunn has the ability to end up the best defender of the three given the the point in time of their three careers comparatively. Dunn’s defensive metrics have been strong. He is prone to bone headed plays, but most young players have that tendency. Faulk is still prone to them and near the down side of his career. Krug is not far behind. While Dunn is on the upswing and cheap still. If I were looking to keep any of the three long term, Dunn is clearly the one I would want.

 

[Stlblue50]

Yeah, agreed. “If I were DA”, I would protect Parayko, Krug, and Dunn and hope that Faulk or Scandella is Seattle’s choice. Keep Dunn and stay younger and cheaper on the blue line.

I like Scandella but I agree about protecting Dunn. Defensemen take longer to develop in the NHL and Dunn is still very young for dman standards. I think he has a lot of potential and is an extremely good offensive defenseman when he’s on. I can see Faulk having a good year and making the decision a little harder.

Now that Petro isn’t c***b***ck the PP, Dunn will also be able to get more PP time.

 

[mike1320]

So any criticism is zero faith then? Perhaps you just have blind faith hmmm?

It’s perfectly acceptable to question the make up of the team. I didn’t condemn the team. The Blues have been successful playing largely one way for almost a decade. Now they’re trying to completely change that. It’s fair to question it

It's not just "some" criticism, it's a complete dog pile from a handful of people on here who seem to know for a fact that we are no longer contenders because Army let #27 walk. Why do we automatically assume that Berube isn't willing to tweak his coaching style and/or that this group of forwards will forget how to forecheck and battle for pucks?

 

[Falco Lombardi]

It's not just "some" criticism, it's a complete dog pile from a handful of people on here who seem to know for a fact that we are no longer contenders because Army let #27 walk. Why do we automatically assume that Berube isn't willing to tweak his coaching style and/or that this group of forwards will forget how to forecheck and battle for pucks?

I’d argue it’s better to assume nothing, including that things will go well.

The truth is this version of the Blues is relatively unproven, especially on defense. Unproven teams aren’t contenders. It doesn’t mean they can’t become one and one quickly, but they don’t start the season as one.

There has been zero evidence that under the current circumstances that will be played that the Blues are worthy of being contenders. They sucked in the bubble with no fans. Well, the vast majority of their games will be played with no fans.

The defense in the bubble was atrocious. Well that defense has lost its best player and replaced him with a guy who has to play a different role than what he’s done before.

 

[finnishflash13]

Good to see this done. One year deal is not surprising at all. One year deal so he can get a longer term, higher AAV deal next year once the pandemic clears up and some other names come off the books.

 

[mike1320]

I’d argue it’s better to assume nothing, including that things will go well.

The truth is this version of the Blues is relatively unproven, especially on defense. Unproven teams aren’t contenders. It doesn’t mean they can’t become one and one quickly, but they don’t start the season as one.

There has been zero evidence that under the current circumstances that will be played that the Blues are worthy of being contenders. They sucked in the bubble with no fans. Well, the vast majority of their games will be played with no fans.

The defense in the bubble was atrocious. Well that defense has lost its best player and replaced him with a guy who has to play a different role than what he’s done before.

I think we have to take the entire "bubble playoff" situation and throw it out the window. You can't base this teams potential on the trainwreck ending of last season.

 

[AjaxManifesto]

All good.

In a time of COVID, these short term deals make sense.

 

[Robb_K]

I could see that, although I have my doubts where Dunn fits in long-term with Krug and Perunovich being similar type players and Mikkola coming up. He could be a potentially nice trade piece to get something back in the future, but no rush to make a decision on his future yet. I am definitely curious to see how the rest of the defense steps up in Petro's absence and I'd like to see Dunn show that he's taken a step forward this year. I didn't really see that last year.

Yes! This is a Prove It contract. With The Expansion Draft as an extra option, and Faulk and Scandella as potential movable pieces, along with Dunn, for extra flexibility. depending upon how they all play this season. It's safer than making a move now when blind.

 

[Zezel’s Pretzels]

I like Scandella but I agree about protecting Dunn. Defensemen take longer to develop in the NHL and Dunn is still very young for dman standards. I think he has a lot of potential and is an extremely good offensive defenseman when he’s on. I can see Faulk having a good year and making the decision a little harder.

Now that Petro isn’t c***b***ck the PP, Dunn will also be able to get more PP time.

well, I think Krug is going to absorb the PP1 QB so Dunn will stay QB of the PP2

 

[BlueMed]

Meh wanted to trade him. At least he’s cheap.

Can’t believe we really gonna skate a team against the likes of Colorado that has half the d core made up of Torey Krug, Justin Faulk, and Vince Dunn though.

Colorado has a really good top 6, but their defense isn't anything special, and their goaltending is still questionable. If you want to crown them, then crown them. Last time I checked, that team still hasn't gotten past the 2nd round. This double standard around here is ridiculous.

 

[BlueMed]

I’d argue it’s better to assume nothing, including that things will go well.

The truth is this version of the Blues is relatively unproven, especially on defense. Unproven teams aren’t contenders. It doesn’t mean they can’t become one and one quickly, but they don’t start the season as one.

There has been zero evidence that under the current circumstances that will be played that the Blues are worthy of being contenders. They sucked in the bubble with no fans. Well, the vast majority of their games will be played with no fans.

The defense in the bubble was atrocious. Well that defense has lost its best player and replaced him with a guy who has to play a different role than what he’s done before.

It's just as ignorant to say that the Blues aren't contenders as to say that they are at this point. They haven't even started training camp yet. And you're trying really hard to downplay the Blues right now if you're bringing up how this team played in the Bubble. Yeah, let's just stop the season when the Blues are 10-2 in their last 12 regular season games, have them sit around with no hockey for 3 months, and then start the playoffs in an isolated environment.