Kally
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At the very least, pick a better comparison. Hagens to Seguin is like Chara to McQuaid.
Same position, some similar characteristics but that’s it.
NHL Draft lottery race II - Bruins locked into 5th before ping pong balls.
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At the very least, pick a better comparison. Hagens to Seguin is like Chara to McQuaid.
Same position, some similar characteristics but that’s it.
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Second, you sound like a Seguin sycophant, which does not surprise me whatsoever.
Okay, nothing alike or not enough alike is fair. As for the rest of it, Comparables are done all the time by many scouts, and I think players can take it.
Second, you sound like a Seguin sycophant, which does not surprise me whatsoever.
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Hagens’ “fall” per se is pretty interesting in that he came into the year at projected 1st overall, now since he had a “down year” (still a PPG at 18 in NCAA) even guys like Frondell are jumping him.
Hagens at 4 or 5 has the real potential to be steal of the draft to me. We’ll see what his numbers look like when the full offense is running through him at BC next season. When you watch him he just oozes skill and vision almost every shift.
But like @bp14 said above, I would be pretty surprised if he gets past Nashville.
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KnightofBoston
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there's no way you've watched him play and then posted this
KnightofBoston
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great for us because that means Frondell or (huge outside shot) Misa is still available
I'd take Hagens at 4 tho, as much as I do think Desnyoyers will do well in the NHL. Hagens has 40g-50/60 apples written all over him, especially if he's centering pasta
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At the end of the day, sneaking out of this season (that you hope is a 1-off) with any of those guys listed is amazing for this team long term.. And hopefully short term as well.
I mean I day dream of a Geekie - Hagens - Pasta line. I feel like the play style and vision of Hagens would just mesh so well.
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Yeah if Hagens falls in their laps at 4/5 its a Pastrnak level steal
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We’re all on edge in here this morning with the game looming tonight.
I’m honestly just so looking forward to knowing where they landed pre lottery. Then I can finally start getting excited about certain guys.
KnightofBoston
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yep, especially when you consider we missed two years in row and only got middle picks, we lucked out with Charlie falling to 16 but we won't talk about the year before that.
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Pastrnak level steal feels rich to me but I’m not gonna yuck your yum. We’ve endured a lot of losing this season
BigBadBruins7708
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Pastrnak level steal feels rich to me but I’m not gonna yuck your yum. We’ve endured a lot of losing this season
Getting the kid that started the year as the #1 pick and fell because he was "only" PPG as an 18 year old at BC is a pretty big steal.
Especially considering he led the WHC U17 tournament and WJC U18 tournament in scoring and was T-3rd in scoring in the WJC U20 as an 18 year old.
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What is make me very anxious about the importance to stay at 4 is this is this year that the bruins have the chance to pick a very high offensive players…with the return of McAvoy and lindholm they will be in the middle next year so 15-20th choice….like Elvis song…..it is now or never…..
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Getting the 2nd best player in the draft (Pasta) at 25 seems a bit bigger steal.
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Those are absolutely the facts and I’m on board with you.
Just at a higher-macro level, getting a potential 60-80 point center at 5 and a guy who should be a hart nominee this season at 25 are just different levels of “steal” to me. That was my only point
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there's no way you've watched him play and then posted this
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I have seen him play 6 full games this season, including two U20 games and the 2024 U18 Gold Medal Game. He obviously has skill, but he lacks aggressiveness and will not be a consistent playoff difference maker. People don't like my opinion, no shirt off my back.
BruinsPortugal
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For reference, how does he compare to other top picks at the same age? I looked at Eichel for example just as a reference and his stats are really not that impressive. But im not sure what i should be looking at.
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Matthew Schaefer highlights NHL Central Scouting’s final 2025 NHL Draft rankings
Anton Frondell, who plays for Djurgarden in Sweden’s second division, is No. 1 on the final ranking of International skaters.
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Schaefer could become the first player from Erie to go No. 1 in the NHL draft since Connor McDavid to the Edmonton Oilers in 2015.
Misa (6-1, 184) is the first player in Saginaw history to win the Eddie Powers Trophy as the top scorer in the OHL, finishing the regular season with 134 points (62 goals, 72 assists). He had a point in 60 of 65 regular-season games and tied John Tavares (2006-07) for the most points by an OHL player under 18 since 2000 (Misa turned 18 on Feb. 16). He also was named the 26th captain in Saginaw history Jan. 8.
Hagens (5-10, 177) is one of five NCAA players among the top 32 skaters on Central Scouting's final ranking of North American skaters. He was third on Boston College with 37 points (11 goals, 26 assists) in 37 games skating as the No. 1 center between Gabe Perreault (New York Rangers) and Ryan Leonard (Washington Capitals).
"[Misa and Hagens] are very impressive in their own right and there's not a fine line to be drawn," Marr said. "Three years from now they both could be a point-per-game guy in the NHL, but they'll just both do it their own way."
O'Brien (6-2, 172) might be one of the best playmakers in the 2025 draft class. He led the OHL in power-play assists (41), was seventh in all assists (66) and tied for seventh in points (98) in 66 games.
"He placed himself in a special category," Marr said. "In his first year in the OHL [2023-24], everyone started to appreciate him. He's got some elite-level hockey sense and skill and I think that the ceiling on him is just a little higher with the expectations."
Mrtka (6-6, 207) began the season with one assist in 10 games with Trinec in the top professional league in his native Czechia, then signed with Seattle on Nov. 27. He had 35 points (three goals, 32 assists) in 43 WHL games.
"He could go in the top three and it's not going to shock anybody," Marr said. "He's a pretty complete package, everything that you're looking for in a player, and he's been able to deliver while having changed continents and leagues. I think he's going to continue to elevate his game. So with him, everyone's looking at him like the best is yet to come."
Martone (6-3, 208) remains one of the top players for this year's draft despite being moved down in the final rankings. The Brampton captain led the team with 98 points (37 goals, 61 assists), and had 29 power-play points (seven goals, 22 assists), in 57 games.
"Porter brings that package that teams are looking for; he has a little bit more of the size asset element to his game than some of the other skaters in the top five do," Marr said. "I think that's appealing to some teams, but I also think he's eliminated any concerns there was about the skating. He's undervalued on his skill set. He's the one who wears his compete on his sleeve and I think that's what endears him to everybody."
Frondell and Djurgarden teammate Victor Eklund are Nos. 1-2, respectively, on Central Scouting's International skater ranking.
Frondell (6-1, 198) had 25 points (11 goals, 14 assists) in 29 games. Eklund, a right wing and the brother of San Jose Sharks forward William Eklund, had 31 points (19 goals, 12 assists) in 42 games.
"Some minor injuries slowed [Frondell] a bit during the early season but he's a strong skater, skilled, and a two-way player," NHL Director of European Scouting Jukka-Pekka Vuorinen said. "Eklund plays with a lot of confidence and intensity. He's a playmaker with an ability to manipulate with great vision and creativity."
Rounding out the top five International skaters are center Milton Gastrin (6-0, 185) of Modo's team in Sweden's junior league, left wing Vojtech Cihar (6-0, 175) of Karlovy Vary in Czechia's top professional league, and right wing Alexander Zharovsky (6-1, 163) of Ufa's team in Russia's junior league.
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Jake O'Brien at 4???? Wow I'm shockedMatthew Schaefer highlights NHL Central Scouting’s final 2025 NHL Draft rankings
Anton Frondell, who plays for Djurgarden in Sweden’s second division, is No. 1 on the final ranking of International skaters.
Schaefer could become the first player from Erie to go No. 1 in the NHL draft since Connor McDavid to the Edmonton Oilers in 2015.
Misa (6-1, 184) is the first player in Saginaw history to win the Eddie Powers Trophy as the top scorer in the OHL, finishing the regular season with 134 points (62 goals, 72 assists). He had a point in 60 of 65 regular-season games and tied John Tavares (2006-07) for the most points by an OHL player under 18 since 2000 (Misa turned 18 on Feb. 16). He also was named the 26th captain in Saginaw history Jan. 8.
Hagens (5-10, 177) is one of five NCAA players among the top 32 skaters on Central Scouting's final ranking of North American skaters. He was third on Boston College with 37 points (11 goals, 26 assists) in 37 games skating as the No. 1 center between Gabe Perreault (New York Rangers) and Ryan Leonard (Washington Capitals).
"[Misa and Hagens] are very impressive in their own right and there's not a fine line to be drawn," Marr said. "Three years from now they both could be a point-per-game guy in the NHL, but they'll just both do it their own way."
O'Brien (6-2, 172) might be one of the best playmakers in the 2025 draft class. He led the OHL in power-play assists (41), was seventh in all assists (66) and tied for seventh in points (98) in 66 games.
"He placed himself in a special category," Marr said. "In his first year in the OHL [2023-24], everyone started to appreciate him. He's got some elite-level hockey sense and skill and I think that the ceiling on him is just a little higher with the expectations."
Remember, best case scenario at this point is they finish 4th worst, but if they do, they are most likely to get the 5th pick (44% chance). They would have only a 15% chance of picking 4th.
This is why losing tonight is so important. If they win and everything else breaks wrong, they could finish 6th worst with the most probable outcome of picking 7th.
Bruin4
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yep
32 NHL teams and not only their top 10, but their top 5 I'd be willing to bet differ more this year than in recent drafts.
After Schaefer and Misa as most teams top two, I feel everyone has a little bit of different view on 3-10. should be fun to see McKenzie's.
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Radim Mrtka is super high too. Which makes me feel about little bit better about my nightmares of Sweeney reaching for him at 5.
That gaping hole at RHD2 next year screams Radim Mrtka.
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Man I hope not, but what do I know, Ive never seen the kid play.
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