NHL Draft lottery race II - Bruins locked into 5th before ping pong balls.

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Man I hope not, but what do I know, Ive never seen the kid play.🤣
I've always thought he's one of those guys that you watch and go "guys that big aren't supposed to move like that."

But it's hard to have a firm opinion of a defenseman of his caliber. You need to watch so many of their games to get a good feel for how "good" they are. If Mrtka was the pick, I don't think it would be an outrageous pick, but man would I rather one of these forwards haha :laugh:
 
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Yeah James Hagens, totally known for blowing up opposing D-Men on the forecheck?
LMAO to, OK?

He's nothing but Will Smith at about 2\3 the talent.
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Hagens s the toughest scout in the class. He was absolutely the best in this class as a 16 and 17 year old. He made the jump to the highest level of competition in my book, and had a very good, but not amazing season. He played very well at the World Juniors.
 
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Schaefer could become the first player from Erie to go No. 1 in the NHL draft since Connor McDavid to the Edmonton Oilers in 2015.

Misa (6-1, 184) is the first player in Saginaw history to win the Eddie Powers Trophy as the top scorer in the OHL, finishing the regular season with 134 points (62 goals, 72 assists). He had a point in 60 of 65 regular-season games and tied John Tavares (2006-07) for the most points by an OHL player under 18 since 2000 (Misa turned 18 on Feb. 16). He also was named the 26th captain in Saginaw history Jan. 8.

Hagens (5-10, 177) is one of five NCAA players among the top 32 skaters on Central Scouting's final ranking of North American skaters. He was third on Boston College with 37 points (11 goals, 26 assists) in 37 games skating as the No. 1 center between Gabe Perreault (New York Rangers) and Ryan Leonard (Washington Capitals).

"[Misa and Hagens] are very impressive in their own right and there's not a fine line to be drawn," Marr said. "Three years from now they both could be a point-per-game guy in the NHL, but they'll just both do it their own way."

O'Brien (6-2, 172) might be one of the best playmakers in the 2025 draft class. He led the OHL in power-play assists (41), was seventh in all assists (66) and tied for seventh in points (98) in 66 games.

"He placed himself in a special category," Marr said. "In his first year in the OHL [2023-24], everyone started to appreciate him. He's got some elite-level hockey sense and skill and I think that the ceiling on him is just a little higher with the expectations."

Mrtka (6-6, 207) began the season with one assist in 10 games with Trinec in the top professional league in his native Czechia, then signed with Seattle on Nov. 27. He had 35 points (three goals, 32 assists) in 43 WHL games.

"He could go in the top three and it's not going to shock anybody," Marr said. "He's a pretty complete package, everything that you're looking for in a player, and he's been able to deliver while having changed continents and leagues. I think he's going to continue to elevate his game. So with him, everyone's looking at him like the best is yet to come."

Martone (6-3, 208) remains one of the top players for this year's draft despite being moved down in the final rankings. The Brampton captain led the team with 98 points (37 goals, 61 assists), and had 29 power-play points (seven goals, 22 assists), in 57 games.

"Porter brings that package that teams are looking for; he has a little bit more of the size asset element to his game than some of the other skaters in the top five do," Marr said. "I think that's appealing to some teams, but I also think he's eliminated any concerns there was about the skating. He's undervalued on his skill set. He's the one who wears his compete on his sleeve and I think that's what endears him to everybody."

Frondell and Djurgarden teammate Victor Eklund are Nos. 1-2, respectively, on Central Scouting's International skater ranking.

Frondell (6-1, 198) had 25 points (11 goals, 14 assists) in 29 games. Eklund, a right wing and the brother of San Jose Sharks forward William Eklund, had 31 points (19 goals, 12 assists) in 42 games.

"Some minor injuries slowed [Frondell] a bit during the early season but he's a strong skater, skilled, and a two-way player," NHL Director of European Scouting Jukka-Pekka Vuorinen said. "Eklund plays with a lot of confidence and intensity. He's a playmaker with an ability to manipulate with great vision and creativity."

Rounding out the top five International skaters are center Milton Gastrin (6-0, 185) of Modo's team in Sweden's junior league, left wing Vojtech Cihar (6-0, 175) of Karlovy Vary in Czechia's top professional league, and right wing Alexander Zharovsky (6-1, 163) of Ufa's team in Russia's junior league.
The only thing I will say about this is evaluation is incomplete until prospects are finished playing this year . Most will play more games between now and Draft day
 
Hagens s the toughest scout in the class. He was absolutely the best in this class as a 16 and 17 year old. He made the jump to the highest level of competition in my book, and had a very good, but not amazing season. He played very well at the World Juniors.
He left me wanting more from the WJ, maybe I was expecting a Celebrini type of player thou. He was good, but I was just expecting a wow factor which imo he didn't have.
 
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Remember, best case scenario at this point is they finish 4th worst, but if they do, they are most likely to get the 5th pick (44% chance). They would have only a 15% chance of picking 4th.

This is why losing tonight is so important. If they win and everything else breaks wrong, they could finish 6th worst with the most probable outcome of picking 7th.
Why does six mean seven, or four mean five?
 
"Porter brings that package that teams are looking for; he has a little bit more of the size asset element to his game than some of the other skaters in the top five do," Marr said. "I think that's appealing to some teams

Speaking of the debate of size, it does matter to some teams as pointed out here

Even though I don’t agree with it at all, because some of the best NHL players in history did not have “size”
 
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there's no way you've watched him play and then posted this
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I have seen him play 6 full games this season, including two U20 games and the 2024 U18 Gold Medal Game. He obviously has skill, but he lacks aggressiveness and will not be a consistent playoff difference maker. People don't like my opinion, no shirt off my back.

wow! 8 whole games? amazing

Im assuming you were also given a crystal ball with your 8 game package seeing as you know this 18 year old kids entire NHL career trajectory at this point.

What do you mean he's not aggressive? Is he supposed to punch goalies in the face?

The kid is all over the ice, all inside plays, and scores at a higher clip in tournaments. He's plenty aggressive and you are discounting what elevated competition, being around NHL mentors and coaches will do to continue elevating his game

anyone that can snag Hagens at 4 or 5 is going to be happy
 
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I think the Bruins believe Desnoyers is their guy. They've watched him a lot while scouting Loke Johansson. His defensive game is as good as his offensive game, which probably gives them Bergeron vibes. My guess is, if they win the lottery they go Misa, but if not they go Desnoyers.
you’re probably right, but I’m desperate for Misa
 
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