NHL Draft lottery race - Bruins currently have 4th Pick

[McBrom7]

Skating concerns make me want to steer clear of Martone. Would prefer Frondell. Eklund is interesting to me. In the clips I’ve seen he has a crazy motor and drives pace of play.

I think Eklund is the player driver in Djurgarden. I would be elated with picking him up. Elite center is a huge need for this team, but a good LW is also a need for this team.

This team has a sneaky plethora of centers on the roster and pipeline. However, the more I watch Desnoyers the more I just really want him a Bruin.

 

[DKH]

Geekie Lindholm Pastrnak
Marchand* Mittlestadt (Martone)
Minten Zacha Poitras
Khusnutdinov Kastelic Lauko

I’m so here

 

[Absurdity]

Martone is anything but a "Brady Tkachuk" kind of player. He's big though.

This was a Felger and Mazz talking point yesterday about Martone's comparables, which is all we really need to know.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

This was a Felger and Mazz talking point yesterday about Martone's comparables, which is all we really need to know.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Martone is anything but a "Brady Tkachuk" kind of player. He's big though.

These scouting reports disagree with you

OHL: Porter Martone - Neutral Zone - Men's

Porter Martone (RW, R, 6’3″, 208, Brampton Steelheads, 10/26/2006) Porter Martone is a high-upside power forward with high end offensive instincts, a strong physical presence, and the ability to dominate... Read more

neutralzone.com

Martone has size, talent to be ticketed for top-5 pick in 2025 NHL Draft | NHL.com

'Game breaker with some bite' aiming to have big season for Brampton of OHL

www.nhl.com

How ‘phenomenal’ Porter Martone has made a case for the top of the 2025 NHL Draft

The Brampton Steelheads captain models his game after Corey Perry and pushes himself and his teammates to improve shift after shift.

www.nytimes.com

How Porter Martone worked his way to the top of NHL draft boards

Captaining the CHL team at this week's Prospects Challenge is just the latest opportunity for Steelheads forward Porter Martone to showcase the blend of skill, edge and IQ in his game that has NHL clubs drooling.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[Kally]

Martone is anything but a "Brady Tkachuk" kind of player. He's big though.

Is he like either Tkachuk? Besides being a bigger forward with Top 6 potential.

Definitely a genuine question on my end:

Did the Tkachuk brothers always play like they do now? Or did they develop that style? I feel like you’re either like that or you’re not but guys who went the college route can’t always show that side due to being tossed out of games for fighting, etc.

 

[Kally]

Also as someone who drools over finding the next Tkachuk, Prime Lucic, nasty Top 6 Powerforward:

If Porter Martone displays any potential sign of physical/nasty with his skill set, I’m even more intrigued.

I don’t watch these kids though so I don’t know f*** all about them.

 

[Eddie Munson]

WTF? I thought they added Fraser Minten not Joe Milton!

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Why the Bruins are still on this station is baffling to me. What a bunch of jerkoffs

 

[Oates2Neely]

Also as someone who drools over finding the next Tkachuk, Prime Lucic, nasty Top 6 Powerforward:

If Porter Martone displays any potential sign of physical/nasty with his skill set, I’m even more intrigued.

I don’t watch these kids though so I don’t know f*** all about them.

I haven’t watched any of these kids play even once. I’m relying on scouting reports. The Martone comps I’ve been reading are consistently saying Matthew Tkachuk, Cory Perry, Brady too. Apparently he’s an agitator. And he’s a big kid with scoring touch. Maybe he’s not overly physical? Idk

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I haven’t watched any of these kids play even once. I’m relying on scouting reports. The Martone comps I’ve been reading are consistently saying Matthew Tkachuk, Cory Perry, Brady too. Apparently he’s an agitator. And he’s a big kid with scoring touch. Maybe he’s not overly physical? Idk

That certainly appears to be the idealized if all things come together version of what Martone can be. There are also a lot of scouting reports that have him as someone who struggles mightily with pace of play at the Junior level.

Being a big kid at the Junior level is a double edge sword, as sometimes guys succeed by just being bigger and stronger (ie Jordan Caron).

Some people seem to love Martone and think he can become a prototype scoring winger, some are pretty cold on him, and don't see him as a real power player. I know some say Desnoyers plays more of a power game, and will be more of a power forward when his body fills out than Martone is

 

[Boston Bandit]

Is he like either Tkachuk? Besides being a bigger forward with Top 6 potential.

Definitely a genuine question on my end:

Did the Tkachuk brothers always play like they do now? Or did they develop that style? I feel like you’re either like that or you’re not but guys who went the college route can’t always show that side due to being tossed out of games for fighting, etc.

Their father (Keith) turned them into assholes the moment they were born

 

[BiteThisBurrows]

I don’t know how you can go Bear over Frondell, but ok. McQueen feels like a guy to me that will be a surprise pick above us and pushes one of the others down.

I don't know there's just something about him. I think I might have an anti Swedish bias with Lysell being less than spectacular (good game yesterday but overall just not all that) and Lindholm disappointing as a free agent. The other Lindholm always injured. Adding another Swede just makes me think we will turn into Buffalo. It's stupid I know but that might be it.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I don't know there's just something about him. I think I might have an anti Swedish bias with Lysell being less than spectacular (good game yesterday but overall just not all that) and Lindholm disappointing as a free agent. The other Lindholm always injured. Adding another Swede just makes me think we will turn into Buffalo. It's stupid I know but that might be it.

Hard to argue with xenophobia I guess.

Hampus got hurt in a freak accident. He’s played over 70 games every year since he got here.

 

[BiteThisBurrows]

or if Iginla actually came over instead of Jagr. He cost himself (and the Bruins) a cup with that decision. No one will ever change my mind on that one

Agreed. They just kept searching for that winger for Krejci year after year. It's amazing the stats Krejci still put up considering some of the people he had to play with at times. We were that one top 6 player away and couldn't get there and ultimately the failed draft when we only hit on DeBrusk out of the 3 killed what could have been a dynasty. Just one of Connor or Barzal even Konecny etc. Just one more would have made so much difference.
They don't have as many picks now but they have to do better this time. To say the least.

 

[McBrom7]

Relevant tank games his evening:

Flyers @ Rangers
Flames @ Ducks

If the Ducks can pull out one more win I feel like they will be out of the Bruins picture. Really need the Flyers to pick up some points tonight though. They have games in hand, a few winnable, but would love for them to get a surprise point or two tonight.

 

[ODAAT]

Also as someone who drools over finding the next Tkachuk, Prime Lucic, nasty Top 6 Powerforward:

If Porter Martone displays any potential sign of physical/nasty with his skill set, I’m even more intrigued.

I don’t watch these kids though so I don’t know f*** all about them.

kid has 70+ PIM`s this year, ain`t all hooking/holding penalties but Dom would be far better suite to speak to this kid, all I know about him is my viewing of him with TC at the WJHC`s , seem to remember he dropped the mitts in the Prospects game too if not mistaken?

 

[ODAAT]

That certainly appears to be the idealized if all things come together version of what Martone can be. There are also a lot of scouting reports that have him as someone who struggles mightily with pace of play at the Junior level.

Being a big kid at the Junior level is a double edge sword, as sometimes guys succeed by just being bigger and stronger (ie Jordan Caron).

Some people seem to love Martone and think he can become a prototype scoring winger, some are pretty cold on him, and don't see him as a real power player. I know some say Desnoyers plays more of a power game, and will be more of a power forward when his body fills out than Martone is

Paging @DominicT for his response to the pace of play ability. I didn`t see that at the WJHC`s but..

 

[Dr Hook]

Paging @DominicT for his response to the pace of play ability. I didn`t see that at the WJHC`s but..

Here's what he wrote a couple months ago:

Porter Martone – Brampton Steelheads – Player Profile

Porter Martone of the Brampton Steelheads. Photo by Terry Wilson/OHL Images. HTWTDOBPOSSHOHL DRAFTNHLCSNAT6’3”208Oct 26, 2006RWR5th 20224th NACANADA SEASONLEAGUETEAMGPGAPTS2022-2023OHLSarnia Sting2…

ohlwriters.me

 

[DaBroons]

Come on...............

Every team in the League -- bar none -- would have given a king's ransom for that so called 1.5C Bergeron.

By definition every year there are 30 or so "#1 Centers" so I get it that there is a wide range in quality/strength.

However, using your bar, apparently there were only two or three true #1 Centers in the League while Bergie played.

Everyone is twisting what I said. I said he was a generational plus player. What more do you want? As Dan said, he never scored 35 G nor 80 pts, so he wasn't a true #1 center. Neither was Krejci most of his career, but TOGETHER they gave the team two exceptional centers. The team wasn't nearly as good after Krejci left, but when he came back, they had the greatest regular season ever.

 

[DaBroons]

Really strange to read "Bergy was not a number one center" when it was called the damn Perfection Line and he owned the Selke but whatever. Krejci was also a number 1 center. Perfect one two punch. The complete 2 way guy and the incredibly skilled offensive guy (who could also play D). What we lacked was wingers to play with them at various times. How many times and how many picks did we trade trying to get the new Horton?

Had Horton not gotten done in early we'd likely have another cup or two. Same thing if Nash gives us a year or two. And I am positive we'd have beaten Chicago if Bergeron had been healthy.

But anyway, I'm warming to Martone. Maybe we actually don't need a center? So, for me, Schaefer, Misa, Desnoyers, Hagens, Martone and then idk I'm back to looking closely at Bear and McQueen but I hope we are top 5.

Again, not taking what I said in total. They were 1.5 centers b/c they didn't score 35 G or 80 Pts, but Krejci led the playoffs in scoring twice (2011 and 2013). Both were great players, but not TRUE #1 centers, who have to put up 80 points.

This year there are 19 centers who have about a point a game. Not every team has one.

 

[Kegs]

Everyone is twisting what I said. I said he was a generational plus player. What more do you want? As Dan said, he never scored 35 G nor 80 pts, so he wasn't a true #1 center. Neither was Krejci most of his career, but TOGETHER they gave the team two exceptional centers. The team wasn't nearly as good after Krejci left, but when he came back, they had the greatest regular season ever.

bergeron was an elite two way centre that dominated other teams top lines. Calling him anything less than a true #1 centre shows me all I need to know about your definition of a first line centre.

 

[Dr Hook]

Again, not taking what I said in total. They were 1.5 centers b/c they didn't score 35 G or 80 Pts, but Krejci led the playoffs in scoring twice (2011 and 2013). Both were great players, but not TRUE #1 centers, who have to put up 80 points.

This year there are 19 centers who have about a point a game. Not every team has one.

Where did you come up with the 35 goal part? Is it 35g OR 80 pts, or both? Because you'd have to ditch a bunch of guys that aren't big goal scorers like Eichel or Adam Oates (to go back in time). What if a guy gets 35 goals and 30 assists as a C. Not a true #1? Those numbers just seem a little arbitrary.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Again, not taking what I said in total. They were 1.5 centers b/c they didn't score 35 G or 80 Pts, but Krejci led the playoffs in scoring twice (2011 and 2013). Both were great players, but not TRUE #1 centers, who have to put up 80 points.

This year there are 19 centers who have about a point a game. Not every team has one.

So in 2014-15, when only Crosby and Tavares hit 80 points, there were only 2 number one centers? Not Backstrom or Getzlaf or Stamkos?

Getzlaf hit 80 points 3 times in his career - you don’t think he was a 1C?

Stamkos only hit 80 points in half his seasons. 1C?

 

[bp14]

Also as someone who drools over finding the next Tkachuk, Prime Lucic, nasty Top 6 Powerforward:

If Porter Martone displays any potential sign of physical/nasty with his skill set, I’m even more intrigued.

I don’t watch these kids though so I don’t know f*** all about them.

Preface this by saying that film is not live…but I did not love Martones skating on film. I don’t know how it will translate, but you can see his skating relative to his level is not exceptional by any means.

For that reason I’d be out on him. On top of that there’s a lot of”intangible” stuff with him in his reports.

I want tangibles. “dynamic skill”, “fast”, “elite IQ”, “great playmaker”. Tired of always chasing the 200 foot guy at the expense of skill. May change my mind but ny wish list is one of Misa, Hagens or Frondell.