NHL Draft lottery race - Bruins currently have 4th Pick

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Well they broke the losing streak so it's time to mail a few games in. Under no circumstances can we afford to see another effort like tonight's game against the Sabres. Must lose game.

Not to worry- that scoreline tonight flattered them immensely. Pasta and his line were on fire, Sway was sharp, but the Canes could have had 4 goals easy- they were not firing on all cylinders. It was good win because you see the relief on all of them but they weren’t that much better than they have been overall.
 
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Just reiterating that we don’t have the homegrown talent to trade our way out of this the way Florida did when they moved the two players that brought in Tkachuk. Both of those guys were drafted by the Panthers, flourished, and were still relatively young. We don’t have that unless you want to move Pasta or McAvoy (which I’d be fine with moving either, assuming we win the trade the way Florida did). Clearly we have nothing behind them to take the role of our stars and leaders the way the Panthers did. We certainly don’t have the star power to do a 2-for-1 like Florida did.

The point being: trading is NOT an option.

Isn’t that what I’ve been saying now?

They need to draft their own Barkov and Tkachuk in this years and next years draft

& that they don’t have the assets/can’t afford to do a Rantanen/Tkachuk trade now
 
It certainly wouldn't surprise me.

That's why I want those two gone.

Unfortunately, they probably have to f*ck up the retool for that to happen.

My head hurts.

Yep.

Just their drafting alone needs to get them fired, you can’t build a vision for rebuild/retool when you can’t draft offense to save your job

From 2015 they’ve had nothing but misses on forwards and the next 2 drafts are going to be the most important for the rebuild

Why aren’t the Bruins in a position to make trades? What assets did Florida give up for Reinhart Bennett Vehaeghe that the Bruins can’t match?

I don’t understand your point about being in a better position to make trades in 2026. They have assets they just acquired at the trade deadline: Minten, Zellers, Middlestat, Toronto 1st, three 2nd round picks (one a potential Florida 1st). They also have Merkulov, Lysell. The Bruins can keep their own 1st and still have all of the above assets to make trades. Maybe their pro scouting department needs some new blood.

Because they have one of the worst prospect pools in the league and you need to rebuild that..

In Florida example they need to draft their own Barkov& Tkachuk, they can’t afford to trade for those guys so they have to draft them

Trade for Reinhart/Bennett caliber player isn’t good enough to turn them around into contenders but they would take them away from where you can draft your Tkachuk/Barkov the most likeliest

So that’s why, they have a bottom 5 prospect pool+ roster filled with major holes

You try to draft your Tkachuk+ Barkov in the next 18 months and then you try to find yout Bennett/Reinhart with the extra assets you’ve acquired

So in short, you 1st build the base strong enough and then add on it. Not the other way around. With how this season has gone they’ve been given the chance to do so. Don’t ignore it and decide to ”retool on the fly”
 
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I don't ~want~ them to be there. I think they could naturally just be there. They can't score goals and no one is coming to help with that.

Marchand? Would you bring back Taylor Hall at a good price point? I will certainly bring #63 back but not advocating Hall, but want to see what you think. You could do a lot worse than 88, 39,63 and 71 as your top 6 wingers. Think they get more offense like this next year?

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Penguins, Sabres, Kraken (likely) winning means I can enjoy the Bruins win in good conscious. Happy camper tonight.

Big games tomorrow for the Bruins:

Vs the Sabres (obviously)
Predators/Canadiens
Penguins/Blackhawks

Feels like there's a group isolating around the 5th pick between the Bruins, Sabres, Flyers, and Kraken. The Penguins should take care of business with 2 games against the Blackhawks on deck. Predators are too out of reach after tonight.
Same - minimal damage that can be overcome

Nice to see what they can be and what they have going forward

I always chuckle Bruins fans have the 135 point team late season poll a C+…so tbe worry and demise largely based on a paranoid fan base

Expecting a good 25-26 bounce back
 
I don't think anyone is rooting for them to lose. This team is AHL quality, so having to cheer against them is not needed! I think we will be fine when our 2 best D are back, new players added are fully integrated, players in Providence are promoted, and we pick up the odd UFA to fill holes! Anyone thinking that this years draft pick will be in the lineup next season are fooling themselves! However, if we stay at 4OA or move up we will definitely get a player that will be in the lineup before Pasta starts the downward spiral.

Given 73\28 injuries, there is more of a chance than people think things can go south next year also.
 
Marchand? Would you bring back Taylor Hall at a good price point? I will certainly bring #63 back but not advocating Hall, but want to see what you think. You could do a lot worse than 88, 39,63 and 71 as your top 6 wingers. Think they get more offense like this next year?

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Could be an unpopular answer, but I would rather bank the cap space for if/when a good center could be available for a trade. If Marchand or Hall wants to come back at below market value on short money.. Sure. But I would rather invest in the center position. They are a team littered with 3rd line centers on the roster and in the pipeline.

They have a boat load of futures in picks now and I'm not 100% convinced they make all of the picks they have the next 3 years. I don't have a specific example for you, but for instance if a Byfield becomes available they would have the cap space to be all over that.
 
When you have a crappy pipeline and no centres worth talking about anywhere in the entire system,then a top 5 pick with good centres available is a bit more then a small step in right direction.To me it's huge.Yea it will still take time, but they don't grow on trees.We have saw how hard it is to get one since Bergeron retired.Teams simply rarely part with them.

Eichel, Dubois, JT Miller, Seguin, Noris and Couzins all were traded.
 
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If the draft lottery were rigged I’d guess Chicago would once again get 1st overall so they could draft Schaefer. Chicago is a big market.

Aren’t there rules preventing teams from drafting 1st overall too often within a timeframe? Also can the same team draft 1st overall in back to back years?

All things equal Boston is a bigger hockey market than Chicago, not the other way around. Boston generates the highest viewer ship numbers of any US franchise under equal circumstances.
 
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Could be an unpopular answer, but I would rather bank the cap space for if/when a good center could be available for a trade. If Marchand or Hall wants to come back at below market value on short money.. Sure. But I would rather invest in the center position. They are a team littered with 3rd line centers on the roster and in the pipeline.

They have a boat load of futures in picks now and I'm not 100% convinced they make all of the picks they have the next 3 years. I don't have a specific example for you, but for instance if a Byfield becomes available they would have the cap space to be all over that.
They got some picks but I wouldn’t say a boatload. This years is too top heavy. Next year you don’t want to trade those. Hopefully, they have more losses in them and not screw the pooch.
 
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The way I look at it is sometimes, like this time, you have to take a step back in order to go forward.
There is literally nothing to be gained by winning more games this year. There is however a better opportunity to gain something in this worthless year by losing out.
Will it be the be all and end all? Hell no. But you simply gotta start somewhere.

Tough pill to swallow. But thats the reality.

The tanking absolutely sucks and to be honest rather see the NHL do a Draft PO, lol.
Season ends and each Conference non PO Teams do an NCAA style Tourney and
Champion gets #1 pick and other finalist #2. Sure as hell will stop tanking lickety split and give teams fans something to watch and be invested for...lol. Never happen for multitude of reasons but a man can dream.
 
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We have an identical record to the Flyers. Could someone tell me what the tiebreakers are if we both lose out and keep the same record? Is it Regulation wins/Head to Head/Coin flip.

Are we actually in the 5 spot for the lottery or is it 4 or 5?
 
The tanking absolutely sucks and to be honest rather see the NHL do a Draft PO, lol.
Season ends and each Conference non PO Teams do an NCAA style Tourney and
Champion gets #1 pick and other finalist #2. Sure as hell will stop tanking lickety split and give teams fans something to watch and be invested for...lol. Never happen for multitude of reasons but a man can dream.
I love the idea but I just can’t envision a working method. The problem being the teams just outside of the playoffs will be getting the best incoming player.

I think one possible path is the idea that the tournament would move teams up or down 3-5 spots. So the worst teams still pick in the top 10 but tanking doesn’t really benefit teams in the same way. Ie a team that intentionally tanks a season likely loses in the tournament and drops out of the top 3 or 4. It should kill that. Tanking late in the season would similarly hurt your chances in the tourney.

I am sure this plan has flaws for days but there has to be a better way to do this.
 
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We have an identical record to the Flyers. Could someone tell me what the tiebreakers are if we both lose out and keep the same record? Is it Regulation wins/Head to Head/Coin flip.

Are we actually in the 5 spot for the lottery or is it 4 or 5?
The breaker is the games between them this season
 
I love the idea but I just can’t envision a working method. The problem being the teams just outside of the playoffs will be getting the best incoming player.

I think one possible path is the idea that the tournament would move teams up or down 3-5 spots. So the worst teams still pick in the top 10 but tanking doesn’t really benefit teams in the same way. Ie a team that intentionally tanks a season likely loses in the tournament and drops out of the top 3 or 4. It should kill that. Tanking late in the season would similarly hurt your chances in the tourney.

I am sure this plan has flaws for days but there has to be a better way to do this.

Wonder how many fans would attend say the "Draft Cup" Championship...lol. Have the trophy be a ping pong ball globe, ha!!!

I am 70 and still remember the NFL having a game called I think "The Playoff Bowl". The runner ups in each Conference played it. Remember reading one of Lombardi's Teams, maybe the 1963 season Packers played in it and he called it The Shit Bowl. 😂😂😂
 
We have an identical record to the Flyers. Could someone tell me what the tiebreakers are if we both lose out and keep the same record? Is it Regulation wins/Head to Head/Coin flip.

Are we actually in the 5 spot for the lottery or is it 4 or 5?
Regulation wins
Then regulation and overtime wins
Then all wins
Then games played against each other.
 
Yep.

Just their drafting alone needs to get them fired, you can’t build a vision for rebuild/retool when you can’t draft offense to save your job

From 2015 they’ve had nothing but misses on forwards and the next 2 drafts are going to be the most important for the rebuild



Because they have one of the worst prospect pools in the league and you need to rebuild that..

In Florida example they need to draft their own Barkov& Tkachuk, they can’t afford to trade for those guys so they have to draft them

Trade for Reinhart/Bennett caliber player isn’t good enough to turn them around into contenders but they would take them away from where you can draft your Tkachuk/Barkov the most likeliest

So that’s why, they have a bottom 5 prospect pool+ roster filled with major holes

You try to draft your Tkachuk+ Barkov in the next 18 months and then you try to find yout Bennett/Reinhart with the extra assets you’ve acquired

So in short, you 1st build the base strong enough and then add on it. Not the other way around. With how this season has gone they’ve been given the chance to do so. Don’t ignore it and decide to ”retool on the fly”
You’re completely ignoring my points, and Florida didn’t draft Tkachuk they traded for him.

The bruins can keep their 2026 & 2027 1st and still potentially have as trade assets:

Toronto 2026 1st
Florida conditional 2027 2nd/ 1st
(5) 2nd round picks 2025-27
Minten
Zellers
Mittlestat
Lysell
Poitras
Lohrei
Merkulov
Khusnutdinov

Show me how Florida (or Vegas) used more than the above to acquire Reinhart Verhaege Bennett (3 of their top scorers).

Bruins have a star in his prime in Pastrnak. I’d rather have McAvoy than Ekblad.

Sam Reinhart (center) 94 points last season (57 goals)

Carter Verhaege (wing) 72 points last season

Sam Bennett (center) 50 point checking center

All three of the above were acquired for less than the Boston assets I listed above. If the Bruins were to add a #1 center who could score 57 goals/ 94 points (Reinhart), a 72 point LW (Verhaege) & a 50 point 3rd line checking center (Bennett) this offseason for a few of the above listed assets, and still keeping their own 2026 & 2027 1sts, would you object?? Would it not improve the team?

Geekie Reinhart Pastrnak
Verhaege Zacha Lindholm
Marchand Bennett Poitras

Don’t tell me hockey trades CANNOT be made. Maybe the team needs a GM who can make them.
 
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We have an identical record to the Flyers. Could someone tell me what the tiebreakers are if we both lose out and keep the same record? Is it Regulation wins/Head to Head/Coin flip.

Are we actually in the 5 spot for the lottery or is it 4 or 5?
Thank you, Dom, for the tiebreaker information.

We have 24 RW and the Flyers have 20, we are ahead of them on that tiebreaker, and it puts us in 5th. So if tied, the Flyers have us as we both have 5 games left. They would pick ahead of us. Their lose to the Habs yesterday put them in a better spot and the Habs beating them eliminated both our teams
 
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