Don Cherry's Comments on Wearing The Remembrance Day Poppy

[ColePens]

I mean the guy is hired to have opinions that stir the pot. So that's why he's on TV. I don't prefer that discussion on my tv, but it's happened so many times and they (Sportsnet/adverts) obviously want that content for people to get up in a debate to drive buzz. I would just prefer we stick to hockey so I can enjoy my sport. That's how sadly entertainment works.

And I really don't get it... if you disagree with his comments, just simply disagree and change the channel until the game comes back on. If you agree - cool. You are entitled to that opinion, too. We all have the ability to flip the channel. There are tons of things I hear each day I agree/disagree with. I just internally go "Oh.. don't agree with that" and move on with my day. Or if I agree, I do the same exact thing.

But why are we always screaming for people's jobs or claiming people should be fired? Agree/disagree and then we are back to the enjoyment of hockey.

 

[Pocket Hercules]

God, I can’t imagine letting a xenophobic blow hard be the face of a sport. Like at least in America when we had a hockey guy dip his toe into sexism his role was reduced.

Yeah, because those respected American "journalists" like Skip Bayless, Stephen A. Smith who pretty much took every opportunity to shit on the Raptors during their championship run because there a team "Up there in Canada" was not at all xenophobic?....

LOL STFU with that shit.

 

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[GlassesJacketShirt]

Stupid is as stupid does.

Also, much as I understand the greater point about supporting military servicemen, I couldn't really defend Don Cherry here from even a nationalist point of view considering his noted shots against Quebec in the past. He's a walking talking stereotype at this point.

I actually do wonder how much support Cherry would have if sportsnet decided to just end his contract at the end of the season. Don't even know any of his old fans who care for his presence anymore, he's just not good at his job anymore.

 

[sandysan]

Nothing freer then forced patriotism

I'm sorry how the hell is an 80 year old hockey opinionist "forcing" you to do a god damned thing ?

He's not an arm of the governement. you want to do the exact opposite of what he wants to piss him off, you can and you should.

 

[General Disarray]

I'm sorry, what ? Is the presumption that " downtown toronto" which doesnt wear them ( apparently) is now 100 populated by immigrants ?

You call out downtown toronto, one of the most diverse places on the planet, you are calling out everybody. Even whites.

Phrases like "you people", "they come here, "they love our way of life" show he is clearly talking about immigrants.

 

[Baxterman]

God, I can’t imagine letting a xenophobic blow hard be the face of a sport. Like at least in America when we had a hockey guy dip his toe into sexism his role was reduced.

What are you talking about?

There is no xenophobic blowhard the face of any sport.

If you are talking about Cherry he is one of, if not the, greatest Canadians to ever live and a great representative of the sport and country. We are blessed to still have him as part of each Saturday night.

 

[bluesfan94]

Yeah, because those respected American "journalists" like Skip Bayless, Stephen A. Smith who pretty much took every opportunity to **** on the Raptors during their championship run because there a team "Up there in Canada" was not at all xenophobic?....

LOL **** with that ****.

Is up there in Canada suddenly xenophobic? Holy shit are you actually making that comparison?

 

[sandysan]

Stupid is as stupid does.

Also, much as I understand the greater point about supporting military servicemen, I can't really defend Don Cherry here from even a nationalist point of view considering his noted shots against Quebec in the past. He's a walking talking stereotype at this point.

I actually do wonder how much support Cherry would have if sportsnet decided to just end his contract at the end of the season. Don't even know any of his old fans who care for his presence anymore, he's just not good at his job anymore.

and yet people KEEP tuning in.

its quite the conundrum. No one likes or agrees with him, yet he's STILL the most popular hockey opinionist on the planet. try and resolve that.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Why not simply embrace the values of the country you chose to move to?

What wrong with nothing else but that?

If you dont agree with those values that's fine you dont have to come, right?

 

[Kranix]

Did Don see the poppy returns or something?

 

[bluesfan94]

Why are you creeping on people in the shower checking what they are wearing or not?

I’m not. I’m just saying that your evidence is sometimes you see someone (apparently a new immigrant - mind telling me exactly how you know someone you see is a new immigrant?) without a poppy and therefore that’s evidence immigrants don’t wear poppies.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

Having a rational debate is one thing. That’s fine and I’m always willing to do that. Tax policy, foreign policy, trade, sure. Alienating a group of people because they aren’t performatively nationalistic enough isn’t rational nor is it worth debating. Not every argument has two rational sides. Let me put it this way. You cannot have a rational debate with someone who is claiming the earth is flat or someone who claims evolution is false. Similarly, there’s no rational basis for saying immigrants are less Canadian (which is absolutely the subtext here). Unless you want to say that being Canadian is not about a set of values and ideals but rather birthplace, and, ultimately, skin tone (because you know no one is complaining about white immigrants)

I don’t know what you’re on about, I agree with everything you said.

 

[bluesfan94]

What are you talking about?

There is no xenophobic blowhard the face of any sport.

If you are talking about Cherry he is one of, if not the, greatest Canadians to ever live and a great representative of the sport and country. We are blessed to still have him as part of each Saturday night.

Blessed? I guess if you want to limit hockey to good ole (white) Canadians he’s a blessing.

 

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, because those respected American "journalists" like Skip Bayless, Stephen A. Smith who pretty much took every opportunity to **** on the Raptors during their championship run because there a team "Up there in Canada" was not at all xenophobic?....

LOL **** with that ****.

They're respected??

 

[sandysan]

Phrases like "you people", "they come here, "they love our way of life" show he is clearly talking about immigrants.

so when he says "downtown toronto" you see this as 100 % immigrants ?
And don is the racist one ?

have you SEEN the diversity of downtown toronto ? The idea that its JUST immigrants is nonsense and if you don't know that, you bloody well should.

 

[bluesfan94]

I don’t know why you’re on about, I agree with everything you said.

I know. I wasn’t going off at you. Just using you as a springboard

 

[Mr Positive]

it doesn't have to be racist if Don is just implying that immigrants haven't been aculturated into the remembrance day tradition, or that they perhaps do not know about what the cost of the freedom here was.

When I heard the statement, I did feel it was a bit xenophobic, but I didn't feel it was racist. Still cringey, but a lot of people have been reading way too much in what he said. Don't try to guess what's in his mind.

 

[ffh]

As a son of immigrants, I wasn’t offended because I just don’t get offended. I also disagree with many sjws because seemingly now their movement is cancel culture if you disagree with someone effectively trying to eliminate rational debates. It just makes no sense to me. I can empathize with people who are offended in this situation though. You just don’t say “you people” generalizing any group of anyone. I see many non immigrants not give a **** about our history and the sacrifices those people made in WW1, not just immigrants.

Could he have worded that whole situation differently, of course but the underlying thing he was trying to say was we should all support and recognize the people who gave us these freedoms we have now. Without them my dad wouldn’t have crossed a desert fleeing death and be accepted here in the 80’s and gone on to university. I agree with don in that sense and donate as much as I can.

Those guys are patriots, they actually fought for something unlike many of the wars going on now.

No he couldn't have worded it differently because he worded it exactly the way he wanted to. If you are an immigrant and white and dont put on a poppy he has no problem with you.

 

[booyakasha]

Stupid is as stupid does.

Also, much as I understand the greater point about supporting military servicemen, I couldn't really defend Don Cherry here from even a nationalist point of view considering his noted shots against Quebec in the past. He's a walking talking stereotype at this point.

I actually do wonder how much support Cherry would have if sportsnet decided to just end his contract at the end of the season. Don't even know any of his old fans who care for his presence anymore, he's just not good at his job anymore.

Are you kidding?
Look how many threads have been started from his show, how many people are losing their minds on twitter...
people say they don't care, and don't watch him, but people hang off his everyword.

 

[BatVader]

Yeah, because those respected American "journalists" like Skip Bayless, Stephen A. Smith who pretty much took every opportunity to **** on the Raptors during their championship run because there a team "Up there in Canada" was not at all xenophobic?....

LOL **** with that ****.

thats not as bad as Toronto fans thinking all of Canada supports their team or calling a Toronto team, Team Canada.

 

[alphabetical]

It definitely is.

Is this your evidence of giving evidence?

This thread is a the one don cherries deserves. It's a confused rant with no point.

 

[PB37]

I don't see anything wrong with what he said.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Phrases like "you people", "they come here, "they love our way of life" show he is clearly talking about immigrants.

But he did NOT say "brown" did he?

I believe he meant ALL new immigrants to Canada.

The problem is anyone who then thinks or says he meant "brown." That is the very definition of racism, expecting less from one group of people vs another...

 

[Barnum]

and yet people KEEP tuning in.

its quite the conundrum. No one likes or agrees with him, yet he's STILL the most popular hockey opinionist on the planet. try and resolve that.

Actually, just read an article that the reason Cherry will be dropped the end of the year is because he is not as popular as he used to be. Apparently, his salary does not return on the investment Rogers is paying him.