If you think definitely yes. Then you must be for a game between the NHL champ vs KHL champ. I proposed on another thread a 4 team tourney. nhl champ, president trophy winner, khl and the euro champ league winner. Have the tournament in February. Replace all star game.
Do you think the KHL champ can beat a NHL team?
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KHL champs will not be able to beat the NHL champs. The KHL champs would very likely be able to beat a few of the bottom teams.
What you're writing doesn't make sense though.
There's a massive difference between the top teams and bottom teams in NHL.
Boston, Washington, Los Angeles would destroy any KHL team.
The top KHL teams might be able to beat Edmonton, Buffalo, Arizona and possibly Carolina and Toronto, but it ends there.
Not really. Since it would be an exhibition match, the teams would likely not give their best effort. The Rangers played against Magnitogorsk some years ago in Switzerland and the match was quite even. Magnitogorsk actually led the match 3:0 but then the Rangers scored four unanswered goals.
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It depends on what size ice surface they would play and how many games also. I think if Buffalo came to Moscow to play Dynomo/CSKA for 1 game, they would get destroyed. If a slightly better bottom NHL team played at home and they would play multiple games, it could be very interesting.
The KHL champ would beat a lot of NHL teams. But we all know the NHL are the ones who have everything to lose in a series between the leagues so they will never go for it.
I thought of it in a more hypothetical situation where both teams would give it their all, not in a NHL world cup type of deal where noone will remember that the games were even played 1 week after it had taken place.
Besides, what would be the point? The stanley cup winners would destroy the KHL champs, and what's the point for the KHL champs to play some mid to bottom NHL team? If they won it would be like "hey we're not terrible!", from my point of view it would just be emberassing for the KHL team, and we all know the NHL team won't care even a little anyways.
I might remind you that guys like Ovechkin played in the KHL during the lockout. Yes Ovechkin was Ovechkin. Lead his team in scoring, the team lead the league by the time he left, but he was not scoring 5 goals per game. In fact he wasn't the hottest scorer in the league. So Caps lead by Ovechkin would obviously do good against KHL teams, but claiming they would "destroy" anything is wishful thinking. Same goes to the other NHL teams.
I might remind you that guys like Ovechkin played in the KHL during the lockout. Yes Ovechkin was Ovechkin. Lead his team in scoring, the team lead the league by the time he left, but he was not scoring 5 goals per game. In fact he wasn't the hottest scorer in the league. So Caps lead by Ovechkin would obviously do good against KHL teams, but claiming they would "destroy" anything is wishful thinking. Same goes to the other NHL teams.
Yeah, because the non-russians playing in KHL clearly gave it their all.
But hey, if you believe the KHL is even close to NHL level, keep on keepin on.
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These one games shenanigans means nothing, this is sport, it's a competition of course in a one game setting the KHL champ can win. Even teams in SEL or SM Liga can have a game of their lives situation.
The question is in a complete season would this team make the playoffs in the NHL?
I would say no, the NHL is the most competive professional sports league in the World for any sport, it's a battle like no other each and every night , then for 2 months to do what they do and for one team to conquer Lord Stanley's Cup is mind boggling, there's a reason it's the most difficult prize to win in Hockey and I would say any team sport for that matter.
What was it , 13 out of 15 series last year went to game 6 or game 7...THAT'S INSANE. Perhaps a battle for a playoff spot is my estimate but the speed of the NHL game is so much quicker there would be an adjustment period.
But common, the bottom tier teams in the NHL, from 22-30 are not going to rip up the KHL also so it works both ways. Some of those teams wouldn't even go past the first round lol
The question is in a complete season would this team make the playoffs in the NHL?
I would say no, the NHL is the most competive professional sports league in the World for any sport, it's a battle like no other each and every night , then for 2 months to do what they do and for one team to conquer Lord Stanley's Cup is mind boggling, there's a reason it's the most difficult prize to win in Hockey and I would say any team sport for that matter.
What was it , 13 out of 15 series last year went to game 6 or game 7...THAT'S INSANE. Perhaps a battle for a playoff spot is my estimate but the speed of the NHL game is so much quicker there would be an adjustment period.
But common, the bottom tier teams in the NHL, from 22-30 are not going to rip up the KHL also so it works both ways. Some of those teams wouldn't even go past the first round lol
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Try to read the post you reply to. By your logic either Ovechkin is a non-russian and never gave it a real effort in the KHL or the non-russian players playing didn't care playing against Ovechkin so he could score at will... oh wait...
Btw you are making a fine point. So that's why all those "lazy" Russians don't care to give it full effort in the NHL. Otherwise they'd probably just destroy the league, right?
No, most hockey players are just guys with some decency and integrity and they just go out and play the best hockey they can given the circumstances.
But hey, if you believe the KHL is even close to NHL level, keep on keepin on.
I know there is that fraction in Sweden and some other european countries wih that 50 shdes of grey like obsession with being slaves to the NHL. It is of course hurting to their agenda to relalize there are possibly other competitive leagues, because nothing can touch the holy NHL, right?
Yes.
It's pretty hockey-centric isn't it? Why do you assume other sports/leagues are less competitive?
Again, it just isn't.
The amount of games in the KHL playoffs is the same and the percepted quickness is just the size of the rink. Actually the game on the big rink is more grinding, which for example is the reason nearly nobody plays 3 D-pairs on the big rink.
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The average NHL team would be a lot better than the average KHL team, however the top couple KHL teams would probably put up a better fight than the Oilers or Sabers did this year
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Not true. It's more common to have 7 defenseman and 13 forwards dressed for the game than 12 forwards and 8 defensemen. That 7D doesn't necessarily even play.
I don't think this discussion can lead to any productive dialogue. Obviously the type of ice makes a difference, but I hope everyone can agree that the top NHL teams are better than the top KHL teams and on average the quality of hockey in the NHL is superior to any other league in the world. However, the top KHL teams would be competitive against NHL teams. NHL-KHL game won't happen in the near future. In my opinion there's no real point in continuing this conversation.
In Russia they play 8D. Finland has basically rinks inbetween NA and european size.
AkBars was forced to play with 3 pairings for stretches due to injuries this season. It wasn't pretty. Of course you can play a regular season game or two with 6 D-men or a 7th D-men riding the pine. In the long run there's more legwork on the big rink.
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Yes. Liiga teams played good games against NHL teams and some times won when NHL had NHL premieres in Europe. Practice games, but it just tells that FEL level was enough to spar well against them.
KHL team definitely could beat NHL teams. CSKA probably would beat many of them. But best very good NHL teams beat them in amount of top end talent.
KHL team definitely could beat NHL teams. CSKA probably would beat many of them. But best very good NHL teams beat them in amount of top end talent.
In what way is my logic that Ovechkin isn't a russian playing his best in KHL? It's his home country, playing for his motherclub (as far as I remember) obviously he tried his best and gave it his all. Did Evander Kane give a crap about how he played in the KHL? Most likely not.
It's different playing in the best league by far. There has been exceptions, Radulov which easily has the talent to play in the NHL and be a pretty good player, he just didn't care.
Key word is most.
I know there is that fraction in Sweden and some other european countries wih that 50 shdes of grey like obsession with being slaves to the NHL. It is of course hurting to their agenda to relalize there are possibly other competitive leagues, because nothing can touch the holy NHL, right?
It's actually the opposite. You denying NHLs supriority is kinda sad. KHL is a good league, but it's not even close to being close to the NHL. Wether you like it or not, KHL is closer to SHL than it is to NHL.
What you are saying is very reminiscent of September 1, 1972. On that date, all of the experts had Team Canada beating the Soviets (no, killing them!) by a wide margin in all 8 games. Dick Beddoes, the featured sports writer for the Toronto Globe and Mail, promised that "The Canadians will win all 8 games by a margin of at least 10 goals, or I'll eat my column in borscht!" Search your browsers to see pictures of him actually eating his column in borscht. On the next day, September 2, the world of hockey obviously changed forever.
It is likely that, in best of 3 series, the Stanley Cup champion would win, but the games would be much closer and more competitive than most people would allow for. Parity is always much closer than people are led to expect.
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Yes, I agree. The NHL game is a lot more defensively oriented however thats not to say a top ranked KHL team couldnt play it either way. Theres some serious talent in that league, excellent skaters, stickhandlers, including defensive specialists & great Coaching. So to just assume that because the NHL lays claim to being the greatest league in the World with the greatest players, thats fine, but hockey is a team sport. The differences not that vast upper echelon KHL'rs with NHL'rs as to with absolute certainty claim that the NHL would clean the clocks of the KHL Champs let alone an All Star Team.
Id like to see it happen actually. Though the NHL Im afraid wouldnt welcome such just as they refused a Challenge for the Stanley Cup by Cleveland of the AHL (excellent team with their own farm system etc) back in the 50's when they were denied entry into the NHL, or by the WHA in the 70's, again, the NHL refusing to have the AVCO Cup Winners & or a WHA All Star Team play against the Stanley Cup Champs or whatever. In fact, in Exhibition Games, WHA Teams had a winning record vs NHL Teams and there like the KHL, the WHA considered "inferior", AHL level or worse. Yet you put a decent team together, anything can happen and as we saw in 72, you underestimate your opponent & disrespect them in doing so, all Hell can & often does break loose.
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