Do you feel icing calls ruin the flow of the game?

[Stuckinthe2ndround*]

I'm curious about your general feeling towards the rule of icing, and whether it helps the game or hinders it. Thanks.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

I think the act of icing ruins the flow of the game.

 

[KCC]

I'm curious about your general feeling towards the rule of icing, and whether it helps the game or hinders it. Thanks.

Go to no touch icing and stop the mickey mouse hybrid thing.

 

[Nalens Oga]

You can't get rid of icings, otherwise it'll become even harder to score goals.

Offsides on the other hand constantly disrupt the flow plus make PP's less effective. They shouldn't be called when a player is fractionally offside and there's a way to avoid them by changing that rule while also preventing cherry-picking.

 

[radapex]

You can't get rid of icings, otherwise it'll become even harder to score goals.

Offsides on the other hand constantly disrupt the flow plus make PP's less effective. They shouldn't be called when a player is fractionally offside and there's a way to avoid them by changing that rule while also preventing cherry-picking.

Yup. The reason the rule was created is because teams would get a lead then just continually fire the puck down the ice to get out of their own end.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

You can't get rid of icings, otherwise it'll become even harder to score goals.

Offsides on the other hand constantly disrupt the flow plus make PP's less effective. They shouldn't be called when a player is fractionally offside and there's a way to avoid them by changing that rule while also preventing cherry-picking.

So ........ 1mm offside will be ignored but 2mm will be called? Are you sure you have thought this through?

 

[Sidgeni Malkby]

I think the act of icing ruins the flow of the game.

^^
This.

 

[dubey]

I think the act of icing ruins the flow of the game.

This was my first thought

 

[Anglesmith]

I think the act of icing ruins the flow of the game.

It's funny how differently people view icing and penalties in this regard, though.

Icing the puck ruins the flow of the game, but it has to be called.

Calling penalties ruins the flow of the game, so let them play.

 

[jw2]

It's funny how differently people view icing and penalties in this regard, though.

Icing the puck ruins the flow of the game, but it has to be called.

Calling penalties ruins the flow of the game, so let them play.

You'd be adding additional stoppages to the current game.

 

[Buck Aki Berg]

So ........ 1mm offside will be ignored but 2mm will be called? Are you sure you have thought this through?

The idea of offside wasn't to stop the game because a player was offside by a distance that can be reasonably measured in millimetres. There must be some way to enforce offside by the spirit of the rule, without it getting to a point that nobody knows what's going to get called.

 

[sparxx87]

icing? Really?

The rules of the game are fine. The people who run the show are garbage but there's nothing wrong with the basic rules of the game.

 

[Ezekial]

No, I feel a player throwing the puck to the other end of the ice ruins the flow of the game.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

The idea of offside wasn't to stop the game because a player was offside by a distance that can be reasonably measured in millimetres. There must be some way to enforce offside by the spirit of the rule, without it getting to a point that nobody knows what's going to get called.

They should just call it like they call icing. As long as the integrity of the rule was upheld, let the play continue.

 

[sparxx87]

It's funny how differently people view icing and penalties in this regard, though.

Icing the puck ruins the flow of the game, but it has to be called.

Calling penalties ruins the flow of the game, so let them play.

Obstruction ruins the flow. Calling penalties is a way to deter guys from doing things that disrupt the flow.. Unless players are dumb only a few called each game.

I have no problem with the rules - it's the clowns driving the bus that need to go.

 

[Stuckinthe2ndround*]

I think the act of icing ruins the flow of the game.

I'm not entirely sure. For example, I noticed during this years playoffs that Pittsburgh doesn't seem to care about icing the puck, and they did it frequently. They had confidence in their centers to win draws, but by icing the puck, they turned a tough situation in their own end into a 50/50 face-off. Without icing, it's almost certainly a 100% chance that the other team gets the puck back with a rush up ice. The intensity of play following an icing call seems to always be much lower.

 

[Hynh]

Icings are OK but they shouldn't be called if there is an offensive player on the far side of the red line.

Offsides right now are horrible. They need a complete overhaul. I'd rather eliminate offsides and bring back the two line pass

 

[sparxx87]

I'm not entirely sure. For example, I noticed during this years playoffs that Pittsburgh doesn't seem to care about icing the puck, and they did it frequently. They had confidence in their centers to win draws, but by icing the puck, they turned a tough situation in their own end into a 50/50 face-off. Without icing, it's almost certainly a 100% chance that the other team gets the puck back.

And?

The Penguins effectively played within the rules. I think you just didn't like them winning.. Wanting icing out is stupid. It's part of the game and always should be.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

No, but offsides do

Icings during key moments can enhance the thrill of the game because you know one team is tired

 

[Stuckinthe2ndround*]

And?

The Penguins effectively played within the rules. I think you just didn't like them winning.. Wanting icing out is stupid. It's part of the game and always should be.

I didn't say it should or shouldn't be a rule, I just wanted the opinions of people on the boards. Icing was a highly debated topic in some playoff GDT's. I think we can all agree it should be a rule, but what should and shouldn't be called icing is a little grey (especially when the puck goes right past someone along the boards).

 

[sparxx87]

Icings are OK but they shouldn't be called if there is an offensive player on the far side of the red line.

Offsides right now are horrible. They need a complete overhaul. I'd rather eliminate offsides and bring back the two line pass

Then there's no risk in making long outlet passes? Guys can just throw it up and if the receiver misses he's already up ice and a good chance to recover that puck that was just iced.

The offsides - I just hate the challenges all the time... They're essential, but they need to figure out a way to cut out a lot of the challenge delays.

 

[PurpleMouse]

I'm curious to see what the OP and others would feel about this suggestion:

Make icings like "fouls to give" in basketball. You have a certain amount per period, and after you've used them all, you get a delay of game penalty. It would prevent teams from doing it excessively.

 

[Anglesmith]

Obstruction ruins the flow. Calling penalties is a way to deter guys from doing things that disrupt the flow.. Unless players are dumb only a few called each game.

I have no problem with the rules - it's the clowns driving the bus that need to go.

I have just heard time and time again referees saying things like "I don't want to decide the game (by calling penalties)," but a linesman would never not call icing because he doesn't want to affect the game.

I just find it interesting that there is that culture in hockey that penalties are the refs' fault, and yet icing is the players' fault. I feel like the question in the OP probes that a little bit.

 

[Hynh]

Then there's no risk in making long outlet passes? Guys can just throw it up and if the receiver misses he's already up ice and a good chance to recover that puck that was just iced.

The offsides - I just hate the challenges all the time... They're essential, but they need to figure out a way to cut out a lot of the challenge delays.

Why should there be a risk to creating offense in a league starved for scoring?

 

[sparxx87]

I didn't say it should or shouldn't be a rule, I just wanted the opinions of people on the boards. Icing was a highly debated topic in some playoff GDT's. I think we can all agree it should be a rule, but what should and shouldn't be called icing is a little grey (especially when the puck goes right past someone along the boards).

I think people complain when a rule works against them. Pittsburgh was good on the draw so they were more willing to take the 50/50.

When it goes past him on the boards he has to touch it. If he misses it, why should icing be waved off?