Tetragrammaton
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Do we already have a potential future Stanley Cup core with Nick & Cole? + Poll Question
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Add Bedard, a superstar 1 RD, and an above average goalie and then I’d say yes
MoneyManny
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Not even close. Even if every player you listed hit their absolute peak we're probably not contenders yet. It'll take some time.
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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Would need more than 2 players who do everything offensively
Suzuki and Caufield 5 goals
Rest of the team 3 goals.
Caufield and Suzuki 9 points
Rest of the team 12 points
lol.
Suzuki and Caufield 5 goals
Rest of the team 3 goals.
Caufield and Suzuki 9 points
Rest of the team 12 points
lol.
Canadienna
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I think we're missing that elite dynamic #1D who can QB a PP, and a starting goalie.
From there there's still holes but we could fill them out over the next couple years while our young core grows into their prime years.
Maybe Hutson helps sort that out one day.
From there there's still holes but we could fill them out over the next couple years while our young core grows into their prime years.
Maybe Hutson helps sort that out one day.
Kaiden Ghoul
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Not yet but maybe sooner than later
If we win Bedard it change a lot of things, but if we end up with a CHL player a la Yager it will be longer.
And we will need a top pair D also, Toews should be ufa when we are done with the rebuild, Dobson only have 3 years of his contract and with NJ Columbus who are on their way to send Washington and Pittsburgh to golf early.
That division also have Carolina and NYR if NYI miss the playoff this year and if im Lou im starting to wonder if i should rebuild
If we win Bedard it change a lot of things, but if we end up with a CHL player a la Yager it will be longer.
And we will need a top pair D also, Toews should be ufa when we are done with the rebuild, Dobson only have 3 years of his contract and with NJ Columbus who are on their way to send Washington and Pittsburgh to golf early.
That division also have Carolina and NYR if NYI miss the playoff this year and if im Lou im starting to wonder if i should rebuild
BarracudaMtl
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we are not getting Bedard playing .500 hockey
HuGort
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Not even close, you don't even have a goalie yet. There's 4 rookies on the Blueline. The whole right side is fringe NHL material. Desperately need #1 right D to contend. That's two main pieces you don't have. Then our future second line center can't win a faceoff, has no shot. Monahan you can't risk a big contract on.
StCaufield
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Let’s calm down!
We have nice pieces with Suzuki Caufield Guhle and Slafkovsky.
Outside of that, some depth pieces that could be interesting, lots of prospects that at this point only have potential.
Rebuilds take more than 9 months. Don’t be foooled by one fun game or one win. Stick to the process. Draft, develop, draft, develop, draft and develop.
I think our rebuild starts off better than most since we have Suzuki and Caufield and Guhle already and then got Slafkovsky in year 1, but there is a lot of work left to do
We have nice pieces with Suzuki Caufield Guhle and Slafkovsky.
Outside of that, some depth pieces that could be interesting, lots of prospects that at this point only have potential.
Rebuilds take more than 9 months. Don’t be foooled by one fun game or one win. Stick to the process. Draft, develop, draft, develop, draft and develop.
I think our rebuild starts off better than most since we have Suzuki and Caufield and Guhle already and then got Slafkovsky in year 1, but there is a lot of work left to do
If they all hit their peaks we absolutely have a Stanley Cup core....but I feel like we still need that #1 RD, solid future goalie and one more top scorer a la Bedard.
Absolute peaks....
Suzuki = Bergeron
Caufield = Kane
Slaf = light Jagr
Dach = Monahan at his peak
Guhle = Weber
Xhekaj = kings version of Muzzin
Harris = Ryan Ellis
Barron = I don't know
Mesar = Nylander
Mailloux = another Weber
Heinemen = I dont know
Beck = RoR
Now....disclaimer....that is what I think their absolute peaks would look like. That team would certainly be cup contenders. But...huge but. ...they aren't all gonna hit it and certainly not at the same time.
Absolute peaks....
Suzuki = Bergeron
Caufield = Kane
Slaf = light Jagr
Dach = Monahan at his peak
Guhle = Weber
Xhekaj = kings version of Muzzin
Harris = Ryan Ellis
Barron = I don't know
Mesar = Nylander
Mailloux = another Weber
Heinemen = I dont know
Beck = RoR
Now....disclaimer....that is what I think their absolute peaks would look like. That team would certainly be cup contenders. But...huge but. ...they aren't all gonna hit it and certainly not at the same time.
You are missing an elite first pairing D, another blue chip prospect at forward (Carlsson, Fantilli, Michkov, Yager)
and a bonafide #1 goalie)
Ya, 3 more top end pieces and you’re set for a decade.
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GrandBison
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So 4 games of rebuilding and we already have our Stanley cup core?
We are missing a 1RD and a no.1 goalie for sure.
They are not there yet. And let's not trade our centers for scrap this time.
We are missing a 1RD and a no.1 goalie for sure.
They are not there yet. And let's not trade our centers for scrap this time.
With the specific question of "core," I think we have some nice core pieces to build with.
Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, Slafkovsky are all pieces with a high potential upside. Two centres, two wingers and a dman.. so it's a nice core to build upon. We need some of the kids to develop and to add some pieces in FA, but that current young core does have the potential and pedigree to be impactful in time, we'll just have to wait and see if they get there.
Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, Slafkovsky are all pieces with a high potential upside. Two centres, two wingers and a dman.. so it's a nice core to build upon. We need some of the kids to develop and to add some pieces in FA, but that current young core does have the potential and pedigree to be impactful in time, we'll just have to wait and see if they get there.
These are so bad. Harris like Ellis?
Mailloux like Weber? Caufield like Kane?
How is Caufield like Kane other than small American ?
You literally just put anything ….
ChesterNimitz
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One would suspect (hope) that, such scoring imbalance will change in the coming years as the listed prospects develop.
NORiculous
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Why the CAPS IN THE TITLE ???
Anyway…
This team still needs a superstar forward and a #1D. So… the hardest parts to get are still missing.
Hopefully the Habs get lucky at the next draft and land the superstar forward.
Anyway…
This team still needs a superstar forward and a #1D. So… the hardest parts to get are still missing.
Hopefully the Habs get lucky at the next draft and land the superstar forward.
But we have Montembeault playing .912 hockey! Cup is ours man.
(in fairness, good on Monty… for now)
Milhouse40
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The answer is easily no.
There's a lot of wishful thinking here. We MAY have more pieces, waiting to see,,,,,but as of today, for me, we have only Suzuki and Caufield.
I can say for sure that we have a 2nd line center.
We don't have a starting goalie.
We don't have anyone to run the PP
Other than Caufield, not one prospect winger has showed anything yet a the NHL level.
Although Guhle is looking good, is he really 1st pairing material? If so we have 1 out of 2 and if not we have none yet.
Let's close this thread until next summer
There's a lot of wishful thinking here. We MAY have more pieces, waiting to see,,,,,but as of today, for me, we have only Suzuki and Caufield.
I can say for sure that we have a 2nd line center.
We don't have a starting goalie.
We don't have anyone to run the PP
Other than Caufield, not one prospect winger has showed anything yet a the NHL level.
Although Guhle is looking good, is he really 1st pairing material? If so we have 1 out of 2 and if not we have none yet.
Let's close this thread until next summer
Short answer...no
Long answer...hell no
Long answer...hell no
That Habs Fan
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I'm not going to really get into the OP's question, but, I just want to mention Dobes should get some mention as a possible future answer to our goaltending situation that people keep mentioning in this thread.
Mrb1p
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To be a SC contender one of these things need to happen
1) Guhle develops into an all situation 1D.
2) The Habs draft Bedard or Carlsson and they are elite 1Cs.
3) Dach becomes a 1st line C.
4) Carey Price comes back and is in peak form.
Aside from this, theres no way the Habs are contender.
1) Guhle develops into an all situation 1D.
2) The Habs draft Bedard or Carlsson and they are elite 1Cs.
3) Dach becomes a 1st line C.
4) Carey Price comes back and is in peak form.
Aside from this, theres no way the Habs are contender.
Thread title and the poll question lead to different answers.
Do we already have a potential Stanley Cup core? No.
Will this core win a Cup? Yes if the right pieces are added.
Do we already have a potential Stanley Cup core? No.
Will this core win a Cup? Yes if the right pieces are added.
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