Value of: Dmitri Orlov to Dallas

[LT]

I'm curious as to what exactly it'd take to acquire Orlov right now, and to learn more about his current situation.

I get the sense that there's a chance that he out-prices himself this season, depending on how well he plays. Also, considering Washington is essentially going to have to re-sign their second line, the cap could become problematic, although this seems relatively unlikely. But, for this thread, let's assume that for one reason or another, Orlov is going to be moved.

Considering his potential, I'm assuming his price would be fairly high. For Dallas, I think our most likely pieces to move within the next year or so are:
Brett Ritchie
Valeri Nichushkin (or his rights, at least)
Cody Eakin
Patrik Nemeth
Mattias Backman
Jamie Oleksiak
And as usual, picks.

Nothing really valuable, but a few solid pieces with potential, and a few throw-ins.

Would some combination of the above be enough, or would it require more? I'm having a tough time pegging a value for Orlov and exactly what it would take to get him, hence this thread.

I was thinking something along the lines of: two of Nuke/Ritchie/Eakin, one of Nemeth/Oleksiak/Backman, and a pick. I think that might be too much quantity for quality though (or maybe I'm just overvaluing Orlov).

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[Stuzchuk]

Caps have 0 cap... what goes in must be equal or less

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/capitals

 

[LT]

Caps have 0 cap... what goes in must be equal or less

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/capitals

That'd be possible, or this could go down in the next offseason. Stars have both an immediate and long-term need at LHD.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

That'd be possible, or this could go down in the next offseason. Stars have both an immediate and long-term need at LHD.

We're not trading him now, this is our best shot at the Cup, and we have nothing to replace him internally right now. We will hold on to Orlov and lose him to expansion next offseason.

BTW, Orlov is left handed but plays on the right side. He's not as good on the left side.

 

[The Instigator]

It'd probably would have been more of a reasonable possibility if we hadn't acquired Lars Eller as our third line center, then I'd probably be interested in something around Orlov and Eakin.

However, with no glaring holes in our lineup at the moment, trading Orlov would probably become that one hole in our roster.

If the Caps were interested in moving Orlov it'd have to be at the end of the season, right before the expansion draft if they decide not to keep him.

 

[Revelation]

Come back at the end of the season when he's probably the odd man out sadly.

He's got the highest ceiling than Carlson if he puts it all together. At least as far as tools it's not even close. It's possible since he missed so much development with Oates/broken wrist.

 

[StephenPeat]

Come back at the end of the season when he's probably the odd man out sadly.

He's got the highest ceiling than Carlson if he puts it all together. At least as far as tools it's not even close. It's possible since he missed so much development with Oates/broken wrist.

I'd imagine you may literally be the only person on Earth who believes this to be even remotely true. I'd take one Carlson playoff-season over Orlov's career to date.

 

[StephenPeat]

To answer the OP, I agree in large part with the other posters Orlov won't be traded during this season. The Caps are trying to compete and Orlov is becoming a very solid Top 4D so he's certainly not expendable. The Caps aren't a team starving for prospects so futures aren't overly appealing. Orlov is also young and the Caps have spent years and been patient with his development. It's widely assumed that the Caps will lose Orlov or Schmidt to the Expansion Draft so trading one of them prior to that means the Caps lose someone else from their active roster which means they can't really afford to trade either before the draft. Another consideration is that the Caps can't take anyone who will need to be protected. And finally, the Caps can't take much (Any) salary in a trade. All considered, I think the Caps have their line-up for this season and don't plan on changing much until the Trade Deadline at the earliest.

 

[dechire]

I don't know why the Caps would be interested in our leftover crap

 

[trick9]

Need an upgrade back, otherwise i'm fine with keeping him this season even though it propably means losing him to Las Vegas.

 

[Zoidberg Jesus]

If you're talking about an in-season trade, the biggest hole in our lineup would be the spot Orlov is vacating on the 2nd pairing. Really, the only conceivable way he'd be moved in season is if the return was an even better 2LD for the same cap hit or lower, which obviously isn't realistic.

I could definitely see his rights being traded after the season though, since we'd likely lose him in the expansion draft otherwise. Hard to imagine what the asking price would be this far in advance though.

 

[Hivemind]

Echoing the other Caps fans. At this time, Orlov would really only be available for an upgrade. Even despite Nate Schmidt's impressive play on the 3rd pairing, the Capitals don't really have the ability to sacrifice one of their top six defensemen at this point.

After the season it can be re-examined, depending on how things are shaking out for the expansion draft. If it doesn't look like Grubauer will be one of the goalies that Vegas selects, Orlov might be the most appealing option for a Vegas selection. At that point, it may be worth seeing if he could be moved for assets that are young enough for default protection.

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

Could go the other way, if Caps up against...well, the Cap.

IF (big if) mid season, the Caps saw enough from Nemeth or Lindell to replace Orlov, they would save cap money for a deadline trade acquisition, be set for the future, and reduce their long term D cost.

Stars would get a more experienced upgrade for their Cup run, at the expense of more cap and the chance he won't resign.

That said, if Nemeth and Lindell showed potential, then I guess the Stars would just keep them around and save cap money for a future Seguin signing. Or, perhaps they would rather use those chips for Bishop.

 

[Drake1588]

Orpik, sure! Orlov, nope. This is pretty well DOA. The Caps have no cap room and Orlov is a top-four defenseman this year, and he's cheap.

Add Orlov to the pile of dozens upon dozens of quality young mobile defense that is not available in mid-season.

 

[txpd]

Not sure why the Caps would trade Orlov. Is there a single top half of the lineup player being offered? I don't see why the Caps do that either.