Devils 2017-18 team discussion (player news and notes) - Offseason part IX
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Zajacs Bowl Cut
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OmNomNom
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yeah... not a well researched one.
bratt, gignac, and nico all factually wrong straight out the gate, and then i stopped scrolling
he should research more, everyone knows nico isn't going back to the mooseheads for another stint (if not NJ)
It's not, but it sounded like you were addressing points that neither of us were making but that you thought we were. If you were just offering up your opinion without reference to that discussion, fine.
Stephen Gionta
Boston College > Boston University
I really like Mike27Devils idea of a Hall - Zajac - Speers/Quenneville line.
Thats the line to go out against top competition, and that leaves Palmieri, Nico, Henrique, Johansson, Zacha to play against other teams lines 2-4. I like it.
Hall - Zajac - Speers looks really good to me if Speers can prove he's ready, which for some reason I think he can.
Hall - Zajac - Speers
Johansson - Nico - Palmieri
Henrique - McLeod - Zacha
Wood - Boyle - Quenneville
Blandisi, Noesen
Thats the line to go out against top competition, and that leaves Palmieri, Nico, Henrique, Johansson, Zacha to play against other teams lines 2-4. I like it.
Hall - Zajac - Speers looks really good to me if Speers can prove he's ready, which for some reason I think he can.
Hall - Zajac - Speers
Johansson - Nico - Palmieri
Henrique - McLeod - Zacha
Wood - Boyle - Quenneville
Blandisi, Noesen
I like it for the purpose of spreading around experience. The 3 vet top line followed by 2 super young lines is unbalanced in that regard.
As per chemistry? Sounds good, though maybe one would like more or a shooter on that RW?
Contradicting points I know.
I agree that coaches and GMs know things that I cannot know, but I cannot even know what those things might be. I can speculate, but what's that worth?
My point is simple, and I've made it many times - if your response to me is going to be 'Coach/GM (or coaches/GMs) think X and you think Y and coaches/GMs get paid and you don't', just don't bother to type it out. You'll save everyone time, because to me the whole point of boards is to talk like a coach or GM about players - it's to give your opinion as though it has authority.
Likewise, if you're going to argue that NHL free agency is an efficient market, you can also just save whatever the Internet equivalent of breath is.
SpeakingOfTheDevils
Devils Advocate
I like it from a roster continuity perspective.
The bottom-6 has been a big game of musical chairs, especially last season with Bennett and Josefson's injuries. That's too turbulent of an environment for young players trying to stick and find chemistry.
Devils Dominion
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Stephen Gionta
Boston College > Boston University
johnny pierogi
15 MINUTES OF FAYNE
Yea it is. The devils got buried in the first. I had to go to a birthday party after that and when I turned it on in the car on the way home I couldnt believe they were going to a shootout
EnglishDevil
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While i'm certain their susceptibility to injuries may have played a part in the decision to part ways with guys like Bennett & Cammalleri, I think the primary motivation for doing so was how extremely one-dimensional their games were. If you're going to be a soft 'scoring' forward you damn well better get the job done on the score-sheet on a consistent basis and last season neither Bennett or Cammalleri managed to do that.
If they're not scoring regularly the question then becomes what else were they bringing to the table on a nightly basis? They're both low intensity players who were mostly passengers on their respective lines. Both are mediocre (at best) defensively, and neither offers any kind of physicality or push back when the team is struggling, not a huge surprise given how fragile they both are.
Bennett wasn't as bad as Cammalleri, but he wasn't a difference maker whatsoever. He'll be a much more useful piece for a team like St. Louis where he'll play a very sheltered role on a good team that already has an established identity. Cammalleri looks completely washed up, but he may have been mailing it in for the last half of the season, perhaps a change of scenery can reinvigorate his career a little.
The fact of the matter is when your team is outmatched in terms of skill you need players who play with speed, intensity and physicality to help level the playing field a little.
re Bennett - last year was a case of taking a flyer on a high draft pick guy who never developed but had a lot of injuries. So you see if maybe you've still got a diamond in the rough.
But after last year, you see a player of the "what you've seen is what you are going to get," classification. So you make room for young guys who might still be diamonds in the rough, hoping somebody develops into a top end player, when they've still got the potential.
But after last year, you see a player of the "what you've seen is what you are going to get," classification. So you make room for young guys who might still be diamonds in the rough, hoping somebody develops into a top end player, when they've still got the potential.
Devils Dominion
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BB is a smart player who can hold on to the puck and make plays using his vision.
I didn't find him to be soft either, he worked the boards.
Oh well though, he's a STL now.
Marty gets credit if he has a good season.
I didn't find him to be soft either, he worked the boards.
Oh well though, he's a STL now.
Marty gets credit if he has a good season.
Zajacs Bowl Cut
Lets Go Baby
IF Johansson can play RW consistently and IF one of Speers/Quenneville can also be NHL RWs this year, letting Bennett go kind of makes sense
I still would've rather keep him, especially considering his pricetag, but not the end of the world.
I still would've rather keep him, especially considering his pricetag, but not the end of the world.
I really don't get the move. Bennett would have been a perfect low risk insurance policy. His salary would have been low enough that we easily could have buried him in the AHL without a cap hit issue, and would have been fine if one or more of our RW prospects shows they're not ready.
Oh yes, good vision, pretty soft hands, smart player. But looks like he's going to be a career journeyman in the league. Solid guy filling in on a third or fourth line nothing more. If that was what we wanted, we could have kept him. But as a first round pick maybe the above formula represents a disappointment over what people hoped when he was drafted.
Emperoreddy
Show Me What You Got!
They want Speers to make the team. I imagine they want McLeod too and he will play RW if he isn't ready to play center.
Add on JQ and Mojo potentially playing RW and very quickly you have no room for Bennett. Might not even have room for Nosen either.
Add on JQ and Mojo potentially playing RW and very quickly you have no room for Bennett. Might not even have room for Nosen either.
Cult of Hynes
Hynes is never wrong.
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Yea, because playing out of position in the pros is totally can't **** with players.
Emperoreddy
Show Me What You Got!
Zacha looked fine at wing last year. Plenty of centers started off at wing to ease in, so I have no idea what you are all triggered about.
Even if there was no room for BB, I'd presume we could stick him on the B-Devs and call him up for injuries. There ARE going to be injuries, and right now, the depth charts make me shudder thinking about what will happen when virtually any of the top 9 get hurt, especially on RW.
Emperoreddy
Show Me What You Got!
Palms, Mojo, JQ, Speers, Noesen with McLeod able to play RW, and Bastian in Bingo.
AfroThunder396
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Emperoreddy
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Many do. Being a NHL center isn't easy. Most junior centers simply can't transfer the position to the pros.
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I'm still convinced Hynes didn't like Bennett and I'm also convinced that Hynes either doesn't care about possession, or that he just doesn't have any awareness that it was something that Bennett was good at.
You do need to score some points for that possession to translate into anything, but I think he should have been given one more year and sent packing next offseason if he couldn't do that. We gave Josefson two years to do that and he was inherited by Shero, with no previous connections to Shero or Hynes and was quite a bit worse than Bennett at producing offense over their respective careers.
You do need to score some points for that possession to translate into anything, but I think he should have been given one more year and sent packing next offseason if he couldn't do that. We gave Josefson two years to do that and he was inherited by Shero, with no previous connections to Shero or Hynes and was quite a bit worse than Bennett at producing offense over their respective careers.
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