Detroit Redwings Downfall

[Geezer WC]

and if yzerman would have spent more future cap on better ufa the team would have gotten into playoffs past few years to do nothing . lessening his draft spot and future cap space , all at the cost of future success . but many fans are too dense to figure that out and choose to get their kicks by yzer'bashing . too dense to figure out that more expensive ufa signings would have created a problem when signing sides n rayz . also too dense to realize yzerman obviously proved he knew what he was doing in tbay during a dynasty run via drafting n trading , the only thing slowed tbay down was the cap caused them to lose important depth players . how fans can sit here ignoring what yzer did in tbay then the 1st round draft pix he keeps rocking in detroit and bash him is ridiculous . not to mention the absolute all time shambles detroits depth chart was in when he took over , people prove their stupidity by not realizing a depth chart that gone takes minimum 6 or 7 years to rebuild because the hockey talent pool on earth isnt very deep as theres fewer athletes earth wide playing this cold weather sport ! mean while people can play baseball , football , bball world wide near 12 month out of year so theres more good players to draft in other sports so rebuilds happen quicker . mean while guys like asp/cossa/buchnelnikov/finnie/lombardi/augustine are doing great but of course the bashers dont reconize that

lol. You make it sound like people are playing baseball in Winnipeg right now but nobody is playing summer hockey in Cali. What are you even on about?

 

[EpochLink]

Detroit's pro scouting is a dumpster fire. Meanwhile, look at what Jim Nill has done with a different staff in Dallas - elite drafting

I asked earlier who’s the head of Detroit’s pro scouting, someone said it was Steve Yzerman’s brother. What experience does he have exactly?

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

I asked earlier who’s the head of Detroit’s pro scouting, someone said it was Steve Yzerman’s brother. What experience does he have exactly?

Being stevie’s brother

 

[EpochLink]

Being stevie’s brother

The nepotism is strong with that hire.

 

[Bank Shot]

Debrincat would be a dump?

If there wasn’t any doubt you were trolling before, now it’s painfully obvious.

Who wants to pay 8 million for a one way forward whose offense is good, but not great?

Not teams trying to compete.

There is no way I would give up a first rounder for that as a GM. Maybe a 3rd or a 4th at most.

If I'm GM of a contender it doesn't make sense to add him at all unless he comes at half retained.

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

I don’t really get tf you people want.

How about not being well on the way to a 9th straight year outside the playoffs and for them to be regressing in year 6 of Yzerman's tenure?

 

[SensFactor]

Losing both Walman and Gostisbehere really has hurt the Wings. Both players having good years elsewhere.

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

You can spend your money and time the way you want. But the way Yzerman is building this team is exactly the way I would do it. I can relate to his rebuild. I see the light at the end of the tunnel, you probably see fire and brimstone.

Actually, as I said before, I hope that the exalted "kids" turn out to be the NHL's best young group of players ever assembled. But for now, that's all they are - kids who have no experience, and who are nothing but Yzerman's job security that allow him to say "sure, my FA signings have been horrible, but just wait for the kids to show up!"

I like to think I'm a blast at parties.

You're right, Yzerman could build a contender for the next 2 years if he mortgaged the entire foreseeable future. I am sure he could trade all his 1st rounder until 2027 and trade ASP, MBN, Cossa, Edvinsson, Kasper, Danielsson, etc and get some nice pieces who are on wrong side of their prime.

Actually, he could have been smarter with his free-agent signings and not signed Holland-esque contracts to players like Andrew Copp and J.T. Compher, a combined $11 million dollars for something like 4 points in the last combined 40 games.

But that would get me on the "fire Yzerman" bandwagon. As a paying client, I enjoy watching the progress of the prospects as the team improves each season. I enjoy watching Seider and Raymond win and nearly win the calder. I enjoy seeing Edvinsson become something special. I enjoyed watching Cossa come in a losing game and walk away with the win.

I'm not on the "fire Yzerman" bandwagon (I'm 1,00000% on the fire Lalonde bandwagon). But it's not unreasonable to say at the very least, he's been wholly underwhelming.

My guess is that's just who you are on a daily basis. I bet you're real fun at parties!

I'm a blast at parties. Just wait until you try my King's Hawaiian brisket sliders.

Stop crying about "paying clients". Either pay and watch... or go kick rocks. Maybe Lions are more up your alley if you can't deal with DRWs growing pains.

I hope this isn't your attitude in your real profession - how dare paying clients want a return on their financial and emotional investments.

We're well past the point of "growing pains" and far closer to how the Lions were before two years ago - organizational incompetence and being stuck in neutral.

 

[RedHawkDown]

How about not being well on the way to a 9th straight year outside the playoffs and for them to be regressing in year 6 of Yzerman's tenure?

Sure. So what’s the alternative this year? What should they do?