Detroit Redwings Downfall

[Billy Kvcmu]

Benning built a team that won 2 stanley cups?

????

 

[Dotter]

I think people think I'm kidding but that is Exactly what he should do this season. Call up Campbell. Tank the shit out of this and get a lottery pick. I've been told repeatedly that Yzerman's only mistake is not having lottery luck. Great, here's your chance! Won't derail Raymond, Seider, Larkin, Kaspar, Edvn or ASP at all. Won't really hurt Cossa , Daniellson, the Norwegian or Augustine either. All the pieces are still in tact, a year older and then get some better UFA's in offseason with incoming cap space. They could see a huge jump in the standings next year. Go from bottom 3 to a playoff team.

Sounds like I'm kidding, but I'm not. Finishing 20th this season would be stupid.. and I don't see this team making playoffs.

yup, trade Talbot (who has been fantastic) and run with Lyon and Campbell.

But I think Yzerman wants to allow the team a chance to dig itself out by TDL... then start clearing out the roster. If you have listened to his comments, you'll hear he is kind of a cold hardass.

So no rush trading Talbot. I doubt return value is worth more now than at TDL.

It's just crazy how bad the Atlantic is this season. Nobody wants it!

 

[Czechboy]

yup, trade Talbot (who has been fantastic) and run with Lyon and Campbell.

But I think Yzerman wants to allow the team a chance to dig itself out by TDL... then start clearing out the roster. If you have listened to his comments, you'll hear he is kind of a cold hardass.

So no rush trading Talbot. I doubt return value is worth more now than at TDL.

It's just crazy how bad the Atlantic is this season. Nobody wants it!

Talbot at TDL would be a great move. He was in Team Canada talks for 4 nations. He has value for sure.

 

[deca guard]

yup, trade Talbot (who has been fantastic) and run with Lyon and Campbell.

But I think Yzerman wants to allow the team a chance to dig itself out by TDL... then start clearing out the roster. If you have listened to his comments, you'll hear he is kind of a cold hardass.

So no rush trading Talbot. I doubt return value is worth more now than at TDL.

It's just crazy how bad the Atlantic is this season. Nobody wants it!

i was mystified years ago when oil traded , or didnt sign , talbot as ive always been a fan . and if i were a contender this season ide be seriously interested

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

Totally agree. The best thing this year is to tank.

If they’re tanking in year 6 of the famed “Yzerplan”, then Yzerman is a failure.

 

[Fatass]

If they’re tanking in year 6 of the famed “Yzerplan”, then Yzerman is a failure.

Are the Wings healthy though?

 

[Dotter]

If they’re tanking in year 6 of the famed “Yzerplan”, then Yzerman is a failure.

Tanking is an overused word. They don't need to "tank". They just need to stay the course, and let the chips fall.

Clearly if making the playoffs was that important, Yzerman would have fired the coach last month. The "yzerplan" (another dumb word) is designed to start to show the fruits of its labor by 2026/27.

You can reconcile that using this link:

Detroit Red Wings Multi-Year Table

A summary of financial breakdowns for the Detroit Red Wings, including multi-year cap totals, player cap hits & free agents.

www.spotrac.com

 

[deca guard]

YZER'FENCE NOT PLAN : hes building a
team designed to be difficult to generate
chances against . the trolls are whining
about no offensive stars , mean while hes
used his early picks to stack up seider-
edvinsson-cossa-kasper-danielsson in
effort to shut down opponant offensive
stars

 

[nbwingsfan]

Detroit isn’t losing culture? Nothing else to describe it

They were battling for a playoff spot until the last period of the regular season.

If you can’t see the difference between that and purposely trying to lose games then I dunno what to tell you

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

Clearly if making the playoffs was that important, Yzerman would have fired the coach last month. The "yzerplan" (another dumb word) is designed to start to show the fruits of its labor by 2026/27.

The Red Wings hired the supposed best GM in the game so that he would only start producing results 8 years into his tenure? Absolutely and completely unacceptable. The Red Wings could have hired anyone off the street if that was the plan.

What in the world are we supposed to do until then?

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

They were battling for a playoff spot until the last period of the regular season.

If you can’t see the difference between that and purposely trying to lose games then I dunno what to tell you

That wouldn’t have been the case had they not completely shown their asses in March with a 7 game losing streak, which included two losses inside a week to the Coyotes, who dominated them in both games.

YZER'FENCE NOT PLAN : hes building a
team designed to be difficult to generate
chances against .

And he's done a horrible job of that so far if that's what he's aiming for.

the trolls are whining
about no offensive stars ,

The majority of the fan base pointing out Detroit's terrible 5v5 stats and noticing that players like J.T. Compher and Andrew Copp—signed to provide offense—are completely invisible on the ice, are "trolls" because they don't line up to drink Yzerman's bathwater like you do?

Yeah, that's not how it works.

mean while hes
used his early picks to stack up seider-
edvinsson-cossa-kasper-danielsson in
effort to shut down opponant offensive
stars
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Three of those players are now regulars in the NHL. How's that whole "shutting down the opposition stars" thing working out?