Demidov VS Sennecke?

[Jack Spider]

Demidov(5overall 2024) canadiens
Sennecke(3overall 2024) ducks

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[Fledgemyhedge]

Don’t think sennecke was/is a bad pick at all. Think he’ll be a very good player. But I would never swap Demidov for him. I’m a fan of a team that has been starved of a prospect of his caliber since atleast my 26 years. That probably says more about the habs prospects than Demidov but I have high hopes

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Both really high upside guys, but I think Demidov has a better chance at becoming a top line player.

 

[CallMeShaft]

BS was selected 3rd because of all the tools he has and the potential he brings, but I think Demidov is a noticeably better player now and is much more likely to hit his potential than Sennecke.

It's ID and it's not terribly close right now.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Demidov clearly as it stands, just because I think Michkov is better doesn’t mean I don’t think Demidov can’t be a top 10 point getter in the NHL, it’s so obvious he’s got an unreal offensive skill set, I hope he thrives. Habs fans care about hockey more than other fanbase they deserve it, it’s been awhile.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Feel like this is going to be a yearly thread, and every year sennecke is going to get more and more votes.

 

[Boonk]

Sennecke is really good. Demidov is special tho. I think hes going to be Kucherov/Kaprizov level threat when he gets here. You take that type of talent everyday.

 

[tmg]

Feel like this is going to be a yearly thread, and every year sennecke is going to get more and more votes.

“Canadiens fans pump the tires of their most recent first round pick saying he’s better than someone selected earlier” is already a yearly thread.

 

[gary559]

“Canadiens fans pump the tires of their most recent first round pick saying he’s better than someone selected earlier” is already a yearly thread.

If you want to have a laugh read projections for Montreal's prospects 5 - 10 years ago. Not trying to ridicule, just take it with a grain of salt, it's probably been like this for a long time.

 

[AD1066]

“Canadiens fans pump the tires of their most recent first round pick saying he’s better than someone selected earlier” is already a yearly thread.

Not a Habs fan, but I think Demidov has the highest offensive ceiling in the class.

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

If you want to have a laugh read projections for Montreal's prospects 5 - 10 years ago. Not trying to ridicule, just take it with a grain of salt, it's probably been like this for a long time.

Same can be said about every other team...

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Demidov easily, but Sennecke could also end up a good player.

 

[biturbo19]

There's always the possibility that Sennecke ends up better. The "upside" is potentially there. But for me, Demidov is the far more likely bet to become an absolute star player, and it's a pretty significant gap.

 

[Toby91ca]

BS was selected 3rd because of all the tools he has and the potential he brings, but I think Demidov is a noticeably better player now and is much more likely to hit his potential than Sennecke.

It's ID and it's not terribly close right now.

So, honest question, I really no nothing about either player. Simple question though, if ID is a better player and it's not close, why would BS have been picked ahead of ID in the draft 5 months ago? Perhaps you already answered that in that BS was picked because he has higher upside (potentially) and suggestion is simply that ID is better right now?

 

[CallMeShaft]

So, honest question, I really no nothing about either player. Simple question though, if ID is a better player and it's not close, why would BS have been picked ahead of ID in the draft 5 months ago? Perhaps you already answered that in that BS was picked because he has higher upside (potentially) and suggestion is simply that ID is better right now?

BS could become a prototypical power forward. Good size, decent skater, amazing set of mitts.

Those types hold a lot of value if they hit, which is obviously what the Ducks are hoping for with picking him so high.

There are also various geopolitical issues with Russian players right now, and despite the fact Demidov seems determined to come over within a year or so, him being in Russia probably scared a few teams away.

 

[BagHead]

I'm voting Sennecke, but it's not a hill I'll die on.

I voted the way I did because I love Sennecke and wanted him on the Wild. I think it's too close to call for me at the moment so this was my tiebreaker.

 

[Toby91ca]

BS could become a prototypical power forward. Good size, decent skater, amazing set of mitts.

Those types hold a lot of value if they hit, which is obviously what the Ducks are hoping for with picking him so high.

There are also various geopolitical issues with Russian players right now, and despite the fact Demidov seems determined to come over within a year or so, him being in Russia probably scared a few teams away.

But is he like a Samsonov type? I remember loads of hype about him well before the draft, ultimately he fell back a bit and was a very good player, but nowhere near the earlier hype

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

So, honest question, I really no nothing about either player. Simple question though, if ID is a better player and it's not close, why would BS have been picked ahead of ID in the draft 5 months ago? Perhaps you already answered that in that BS was picked because he has higher upside (potentially) and suggestion is simply that ID is better right now?

Ducks essentially never draft players who are playing in russia and Sennecke being a right shot vs Demidov being a left shot had something to do with it.

Ducks had told the media last summer they were looking to add a right shot top 6 forward. It makes sense to want a right shot when they have Zegras, Mctavish, Gauthier, and Carlsson who are all left shots.

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

So, honest question, I really no nothing about either player. Simple question though, if ID is a better player and it's not close, why would BS have been picked ahead of ID in the draft 5 months ago? Perhaps you already answered that in that BS was picked because he has higher upside (potentially) and suggestion is simply that ID is better right now?

It only takes one person who sees something others don’t for the draft to go against consensus and of course team needs etc.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Demidov will be to Anaheim what Michkov is to the Habs: the one that got away

 

[MMC]

BS was selected 3rd because of all the tools he has and the potential he brings, but I think Demidov is a noticeably better player now and is much more likely to hit his potential than Sennecke.

It's ID and it's not terribly close right now.

Two guys taken right next to each other in the draft, both destroying their respective leagues in their D+1 yet the comparison between the two is “not terribly close”. I love this website

 

[CallMeShaft]

Two guys taken right next to each other in the draft, both destroying their respective leagues in their D+1 yet the comparison between the two is “not terribly close”. I love this website

What Demidov is currently doing in the KHL is more impressive than what Sennecke is doing in the CHL. And Ivan was the better prospect leading into the draft.

They're both solid prospects, though, and the use of "not terribly close" was maybe a mistake on my part. I felt the choice here was relatively easy, that Demidov had a noticeable (albeit not large) edge here, and that's why I said what I said.

If I were to give them a grade level for prospect, ID would be getting an A and BS would get a B+. Both good scores, both would make your parents proud, but one is just at a bit higher of a level right now.

 

[gritdash60]

Who vs what?