Value of: Defense to Toronto

[BruinLVGA]

Goes to show that he hasn't been completely irrelevant in the O zone.

You actually included four... "almost-assists" in his point totals to make a point that he would have a much better production.
If we go on counting almost-assists and almost-goals from now on, probably half the league or more would be ppg and above at the end of the season...
Please tell me that you see the problem with that.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Bruins fans overrate McAvoy to such a large extent it's not even funny anymore. He holds less value than Marner and 100% of NHL GM's agree with me.

I have seen enough hockey in person in the past 40 years to recognize elite talent when I see it.
And at least, I speak for myself and my experience in seeing the game. You on the other hand speak for the whole community of NHL GMs, apparently. I will let you consider how that sounds.

 

[PinkFly]

I have seen enough hockey in person in the past 40 years to recognize elite talent when I see it.
And at least, I speak for myself and my experience in seeing the game. You on the other hand speak for the whole community of NHL GMs, apparently. I will let you consider how that sounds.

Jim Benning has seen alot of hockey in person as well. Too bad he chose Virtanen over Nylander and Ehlers...

 

[Duke16]

You actually included four... "almost-assists" in his point totals to make a point that he would have a much better production.
If we go on counting almost-assists and almost-goals from now on, probably half the league or more would be ppg and above at the end of the season...
Please tell me that you see the problem with that.

I'm talking about legitimate open-net tap-ins, but I see your point. I'm moreso just trying to point out that he is still a huge offensive threat and its pretty idiotic seeing him getting thown into countless proposals.

 

[Stephen]

I don't know how sacrilege it is to agree with the Bruins fan on this item, but a wide body, workhorse RHD potential franchise defenseman brings a certain substance to a team the Leafs just don't have, that I would give up just about anything short of Matthews for.

I think Marner has peak, peak potential to be a really special player in the game, but there's a wider range of impactful usefulness of a player of McAvoy's range, if that makes sense.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

McDonagh+ a small add?

 

[BruinLVGA]

Jim Benning has seen alot of hockey in person as well. Too bad he chose Virtanen over Nylander and Ehlers...

And?

 

[rent free]

And?

nylander and ehlers >> virtanen

 

[BruinLVGA]

nylander and ehlers >> virtanen

And?

 

[PinkFly]

And?

Just because you watched hockey for a long time doesn't make you a great judge of talent, kiddo.

 

[Stephen]

What's the value of Erik Johnson? He could work as a RHD big body defenseman. Not sure if Colorado is rebuilding or building with him.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

What's the value of Erik Johnson? He could work as a RHD big body defenseman. Not sure if Colorado is rebuilding or building with him.

As of right now he's 100% not available. He's an absolute work horse on Defense for us, taking the hardest minutes by far and playing over 26 minutes a night with a lot of SH time.


Would require an overpayment that the Leafs shouldn't be prepared to pay. Something like Nylander or Marner which just doesn't make sense for the Leafs. Those are guys they want to build around. Use the draft to find a high end Dman instead.

 

[rent free]

And?

oh i also forgot. nylander > pasta. now say "and".

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Oh goodie another defense man to the leaf thread Mods i was hoping we can sticky this and have all defense to the leafs in one thread that way the main board will have room for other teams proposals

Agreed .... And 2 threads should cover it...
1. We are great and getting greater
2. We need to get rid of the coach, goalie, any body playing bad and add defense

Inquiring minds need to know where to put the JVR trade proposals - in thread #2 I suspect?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Inquiring minds need to know where to put the JVR trade proposals - in thread #2 I suspect?

I'd say either one depending on if they are winning or not

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Inquiring minds need to know where to put the JVR trade proposals - in thread #2 I suspect?

I would support a 2nd thread pin for the rest of leaf nation trades

 

[HoweHullOrr]

I'd say either one depending on if they are winning or not

I would support a 2nd thread pin for the rest of leaf nation trades

Thanks. I hope there's no database or buffer limits.

 

[go4hockey]

Connor Brown
Connor Carrick
1st
for
Brady Skjei
2nd

After hearing this offer the NYR fly to Toronto kick you in the nuts then fly home. That is pure For the Rangers and not even close.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

If Marner was bad, then what do you call the Strome pick lol.

Bad as well?

 

[NarcoPolo]

So what is your offer for Mcavoy then? Im not even gonna guess...

If the leafs are trading Marner, that's who I'd want want in return, not Carlo.

 

[Halla]

I have seen enough hockey in person in the past 40 years to recognize elite talent when I see it.
And at least, I speak for myself and my experience in seeing the game. You on the other hand speak for the whole community of NHL GMs, apparently. I will let you consider how that sounds.

you should be a gm, because these guys have been in hockey their entire lives and still often get things wrong.
Yak looked pretty good as a rookie. Maybe you could teach these gms a thing or two?

 

[Halla]

nylander and ehlers >> virtanen

not enough >

 

[NarcoPolo]

You mentioned McAvoy, not me. If you want McAvoy, regardless of how many games he played or not, the right - and only - answer is Matthews.

So before McAvoy stepped foot on an nhl ice surface, he was already worth a franchise #1C on an ELC and nothing less?

 

[Halla]

Carlo doesnt get the convo going on Marner.
MacAvoy is interesting but both teams probably just keep their guy.

Leafs liked marner enough to take him over several dmen (hanifin,werenski,provorov)
kid rewards them by having an insane junior year where he won every possible award and then drops 61pts as a rookie

they arent making a knee jerk reaction and trading him just because he "only" has 7 pts so far.
Marner is gonna be a 70pt+ stud year in year out. Leafs keep their homegrown talent, much as teams like LA,Pit,Wsh, CHi have

 

[Halla]

You mentioned McAvoy, not me. If you want McAvoy, regardless of how many games he played or not, the right - and only - answer is Matthews.

The bruins don't have any combination of 2 players that get you matthews.

Bergeron,Pastrnak AND McAvoy MIGHT get it done