Value of: Defense to Toronto

[rent free]

boucher for babcock and a 2018 1st.

no retaining on babcock

 

[Privet]

What do you want for Ryan Murray or Gabriel Carlson? Or both young D together with a very high upside.

 

[howkie]

Right, the hf classic. 10 games into his career and he's already earned his "Matthews or bust" status. You want one of our best young players you're gonna have to pay up too.

So what is your offer for Mcavoy then? Im not even gonna guess...

 

[Kamiccolo]

Other GM's know the Leafs need to add quality defensemen and
it will take an over payment to get one.
Doubt any GM are interested in JVR, Bozak or Kap.
Maybe for a #5/6

So start combo of your 2018 1st rounder, an improved Marner or Kadri.

Leafs offence needs work as well.
After Matthews it looks like Martin is your most engaged player.
Last year Leo and Kardi were kings of the stick slash and stick water skiing but that game is over. Now they look terrible.
Marner?? WTF
Earth to Nylander.... wake up.
People were concerned about Marleau's third year of his contract, I would be more concerned about his first.

This post.. but the bolded. 50 points would be excellent which is what he is on pace for. He works hard, and is playing center for us where he is not as comfortable. One of our better defensive players too. Not one single person thought he would score 60-70 points or whatever, he was signed for that much to bring in a strong vet and convince him to move out of SJ.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Oh goodie another defense man to the leaf thread Mods i was hoping we can sticky this and have all defense to the leafs in one thread that way the main board will have room for other teams proposals

 

[Liferleafer]

At what point does it stop being a knee jerk reaction and start becoming a legitimate issue where the Leafs need to get a defenseman?

Oh it's a legit problem, but not a trade Nylander problem.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

How much for Parayko?

One of Nylander/Marner rather easily and the Blues aren't dealing Parayko after dealing Shattenkirk.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Connor Brown
Connor Carrick
1st
for
Brady Skjei
2nd

No way in a million year would Jeff Gorton accept this trade, It's bad for the NYR.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Tanev for Marner + 1st.

Leafs stop pucks for going in their net and Canucks add a 4th liner and a pick.

Sounds fair.

Hope this is a joke? Because no way in the world is Tanev worth Marner Tanev is one dimensional.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Right, the hf classic. 10 games into his career and he's already earned his "Matthews or bust" status. You want one of our best young players you're gonna have to pay up too.

You mentioned McAvoy, not me. If you want McAvoy, regardless of how many games he played or not, the right - and only - answer is Matthews.

 

[BruinLVGA]

So Marner sucks now? Not generational?

Silly you, every Leafs player is generational.

 

[BruinLVGA]

We're not trading Marner, maybe this year will be an off year for him and that's fine, but we can't discount what we did last year. Marner has also been robbed of like 4 assists where players missed tap-ins (JVR twice, Bozak a few). He gets those and he has 1G 10A 11PTS in 15GP. Still not scoring, but probably takes less flack just for having 11PTS in 15.

A trade I would be down for is Leivo/Prospect/Late Pick for Petrovic. Too many fans are set on getting a stud (none avalaible). Petrovic is a big improvement on Carrick/Polak and could even work his way into our long-term plans.

Now this is something rather new even for me: someone counting the ALMOST assists to make a point...

 

[BruinLVGA]

At what point does it stop being a knee jerk reaction and start becoming a legitimate issue where the Leafs need to get a defenseman?

That point was reached sometimes during the 2005-06 season. It remains intact to this day.

 

[rent free]

What do you want for Ryan Murray or Gabriel Carlson? Or both young D together with a very high upside.

we'll take carlsson for a 2018 1st. fair deal?

 

[Maukkis]

You mentioned McAvoy, not me. If you want McAvoy, regardless of how many games he played or not, the right - and only - answer is Matthews.

Based on Trouba threads that I have read way more than one should ever have, this concept isn't familiar to Leafs fans. Mention Matthews on this particular board in any context, and you're in for a barrage of hate, no matter how right you are. The same logic could easily be applied to most "untouchables", but only in Leafland is it a crime against humanity to suggest that other teams have expensive and prized assets too.

 

[GoodbyeLuongo]

Oh it's a legit problem, but not a trade Nylander problem.

Oh yes I totally agree. There is not gonna be trade Nylander or Matthews problem.

 

[Liferleafer]

Based on Trouba threads that I have read way more than one should ever have, this concept isn't familiar to Leafs fans. Mention Matthews on this particular board in any context, and you're in for a barrage of hate, no matter how right you are. The same logic could easily be applied to most "untouchables", but only in Leafland is it a crime against humanity to suggest that other teams have expensive and prized assets too.

Oh come on...neither McAvoy ir Trouba hold close to Matthews value.
.

 

[Duke16]

Now this is something rather new even for me: someone counting the ALMOST assists to make a point...

Goes to show that he hasn't been completely irrelevant in the O zone.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Brandon Carlo for Mitch Marner.

Carlo would give the leafs a top young shutdown d-man who can skate and has a great outlet pass.

Marner would give the Bruins a second line right winger who has dynamic offensive skill and great upside.

Two top young players with great futures.

Marner on the Big Bad Bruins ... I love it

 

[BruinLVGA]

Based on Trouba threads that I have read way more than one should ever have, this concept isn't familiar to Leafs fans. Mention Matthews on this particular board in any context, and you're in for a barrage of hate, no matter how right you are. The same logic could easily be applied to most "untouchables", but only in Leafland is it a crime against humanity to suggest that other teams have expensive and prized assets too.

You are perfectly right.

We are grooming McAvoy to become our next #1 D (to be frank, he pretty much already is...), following in the steps of the history of great Bruins #1 defensemen.
He has oodles of talent at both ends of the ice, he even is physical, has started playing Karlsson-esque minutes already (played close to 30 minutes in 2 out of the last 3 games). It's amazing to look at where he is already.
There's a handful of players the Bruins would accept to trade McAvoy for. Incomprehensible as that may seem to some, that's reality.

 

[tony d]

Toronto needs defense and if they want to address that need Marner or Nylander have to be what is going back to the team that is trading the defenseman.

 

[Confucius]

Oh goodie another defense man to the leaf thread Mods i was hoping we can sticky this and have all defense to the leafs in one thread that way the main board will have room for other teams proposals

That’s actually a good idea, just stickie the Leaf topics. Makes sense and would keep the other teams threads from being pushed to page 2

 

[PinkFly]

You are perfectly right.

We are grooming McAvoy to become our next #1 D (to be frank, he pretty much already is...), following in the steps of the history of great Bruins #1 defensemen.
He has oodles of talent at both ends of the ice, he even is physical, has started playing Karlsson-esque minutes already (played close to 30 minutes in 2 out of the last 3 games). It's amazing to look at where he is already.
There's a handful of players the Bruins would accept to trade McAvoy for. Incomprehensible as that may seem to some, that's reality.

Bruins fans overrate McAvoy to such a large extent it's not even funny anymore. He holds less value than Marner and 100% of NHL GM's agree with me.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

A deal based around Marner for Hanifin makes the most sense for the Leafs.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

That’s actually a good idea, just stickie the Leaf topics. Makes sense and would keep the other teams threads from being pushed to page 2

Agreed .... And 2 threads should cover it...
1. We are great and getting greater
2. We need to get rid of the coach, goalie, any body playing bad and add defense